Full disclosure - Trip DeMuth

Full disclosure - Trip DeMuth

Posted in the JonBenet Ramsey Forum

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
candy

East Lansing, MI

#1 Nov 25, 2006
Why, in the interest of full disclosure, didn't Moriarty disclose THE FACT that Trip DeMuth, whose leak document Moriarty waved around and interviewed, was hired by John Ramsey's lawyer Mike Bynum for his lawfirm when DeMuth lost the race for DA to Mary Lacy?
Patricia Fox

Miami, FL

#2 Nov 25, 2006
It was frustrating to see because it leaves out all the reasons the Ramseys were suspect to begin with.

And, of course, Michael Tracey is Mister Showmanship, himself.

Not as bad as the Dan Rather expose on President Bush but pretty close.
Victory

United States

#3 Nov 25, 2006
candy wrote:
Why, in the interest of full disclosure, didn't Moriarty disclose THE FACT that Trip DeMuth, whose leak document Moriarty waved around and interviewed, was hired by John Ramsey's lawyer Mike Bynum for his lawfirm when DeMuth lost the race for DA to Mary Lacy?
..........so...?
candy

East Lansing, MI

#4 Nov 25, 2006
Uh, DeMuth was supposed to be the prosecutor in the UNLIKELY event of an indictment in THAT DA's office against the Ramseys. He was picked by Hunter to be the prosecutor of that case. Then he goes to work for Ramsey's lawyer. And he does lucrative civil work, when he was a prosecutor in criminal cases for years. Hmmmm...................
candy

East Lansing, MI

#5 Nov 25, 2006
Trip spent his entire career, 17 years, in the Boulder DA's office, before joining Ramsey's lawyer's law firm. He didn't have any experience in civil law, but now what does he do, and what was he hired for? Civil Litigation; Contract Disputes; Construction Litigation; White Collar Criminal Defense.
Victory

United States

#6 Nov 25, 2006
candy wrote:
Uh, DeMuth was supposed to be the prosecutor in the UNLIKELY event of an indictment in THAT DA's office against the Ramseys. He was picked by Hunter to be the prosecutor of that case. Then he goes to work for Ramsey's lawyer. And he does lucrative civil work, when he was a prosecutor in criminal cases for years. Hmmmm..........
...so, he lost the race for DA. Why not go to work for the best law firm in CO? Are you telling me that he had a private practice and worked in the DA office as a prosecutor at the same time? I don't think so.
Vivian

AOL

#7 Nov 25, 2006
candy wrote:
Uh, DeMuth was supposed to be the prosecutor in the UNLIKELY event of an indictment in THAT DA's office against the Ramseys. He was picked by Hunter to be the prosecutor of that case. Then he goes to work for Ramsey's lawyer. And he does lucrative civil work, when he was a prosecutor in criminal cases for years. Hmmmm..........
Six year old's don't pay taxes or make campaign contributions. What could DeMuth possibly gain from seeking justice for a six year old?
candy

East Lansing, MI

#8 Nov 25, 2006
Well said Vivian.
Nancy Drew

Chicago, IL

#9 Nov 25, 2006
Candy, DeMuth does not work for Bynum's firm.
Nancy Drew

Chicago, IL

#10 Nov 25, 2006
Patricia Fox wrote:
It was frustrating to see because it leaves out all the reasons the Ramseys were suspect to begin with.
Patricia, why are they suspect?
Nancy Drew

Chicago, IL

#11 Nov 25, 2006
Candy, DeMuth was NOT fired.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#12 Nov 25, 2006
I never said DeMuth was fired. He QUIT, and went to work for JOHN RAMSEY'S LAWYER MIKE BYNUM:

From the 1997 Vanity Fair article:

Hunter's team asked the police to accompany them to Haddon's team's demonstration at the office of Mike Bynum. "The tables were arranged in a horseshoe, "says an insider, "and six of the Ramsey attorneys were there watching the detectives watch their two handwriting experts. It was total bullshit. Hunter and DeMuth are nodding their heads in agreement as these guys are talking." Ramsey attorney Lee Foreman was seen giving DeMuth a backrub during a break. After the demonstration, Alex Hunter was overheard asking Hal Haddon, "Well, where should we go from here?"

"Why are they showing unindicted, uncharged murder suspects all the evidence?" the source asks. "Is this some privileged discovery process available to rich Boulderites? Everything they have done is against the advise of the Boulder police, the F.B.I., and the Attorney General's Capital Crimes Unit!"
FoolsGold

Ooltewah, TN

#13 Nov 26, 2006
DeMeuth was the ADA on the scene during the collection of evidence. He has always had a prosecutor's viewpoint, not a defense oriented viewpoint. At the time he persistently insisted that the BPD do a better forensic job at the scene of the crime, he was acting as a prosecutor. At the time he prepared the document shown to him he was a prosecutor. Everything he ever did on the case was as a prosecutor. It was his objectivity and willingness to consider the existence of an intruder, that made him persona non grata on DA-Hunter's team.
Patricia Fox

Miami, FL

#14 Nov 26, 2006
Nancy Drew wrote:
<quoted text>
Patricia, why are they suspect?
The Ramseys hunkering down behind lawyers from the get-go. Trying to leave town within 20 minutes of body being found. Refusing to answer questions unless submitted in writing. Refusing to take polygraphs. That's just for starters.
colorado conspiracy

Fennimore, WI

#15 Nov 26, 2006
You forgot being allowed to remove anything they wished from the crime scene.
Patricia Fox

Miami, FL

#16 Nov 26, 2006
colorado conspiracy wrote:
You forgot being allowed to remove anything they wished from the crime scene.
I agree.. Only basic needs should have been allowed to be taken out.
Henrietta McPhee

Plymouth, UK

#17 Nov 26, 2006
I don't think the Boulder cops knew what they were doing in the Ramsey case with regard to protecting the crime scene.

The MacDonald murders crime scene is now used by lecturers on how not to do it. The Ramsey case protection of a crime scene can't be far behind that case.

From what I know about what happened it was Trip DeMuth, at the Boulder DA's office, who had to insist that the Boulder police made a thorough forensic examination of the crime scene.

I admire Alex Hunter for standing firm, and not prosecuting when he didn't have enough evidence. Alex Hunter was under orders from the Colorado Governor to bring 'new blood' into the Ramsey case. That was a disaster because the people and detectives involved who knew what they were doing were then taken off the Ramsey case.

I do wish jahazafat would preent some EVIDENCE that there were doll fibers at the JonBenet crime scene. The CBI lab have never said there were doll fibers at the crime scene.

I don't think what jahazafat thinks could have happened, or might have happened, is relevant. We need to know exactly what happened. I could quite easily say that JonBenet's doll 'sister socks' which was somehow in the possession of Priscilla White was at the crime scene. I wouldn't say that unless I could back it up with hard evidence.

There is some information about Trip DeMuth from an old newspaper article by Travis Henry, The Daily Times-call, 5/4/2001:

"DeMuth, who now works as a civil litigation attorney for a Boulder law firm, said he appeared on the show to show support for Smit.

“He was and is the most experienced person who has worked on the case,” DeMuth said.

DeMuth said the appearance on “Today” doesn’t conflict with his previous vows not to discuss the facts of the case.

“I am not making any representation of my position on the case at this time, but I am making a representation on what kind of detective Lou Smit is,” DeMuth said.“What people want to imply from that is their business. They are free to interpret it as they wish.”

On the television show, DeMuth’s comments have been broad and not critical of any specific individuals or departments.

“In homicide investigations, you need to make sure you pursue every possibility or theory, if you will, especially since the burden of proof is to prove somebody’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt,” he said on Monday’s show, which was taped last month.

His most pointed remarks came when he talked about focusing on one suspect.

“I’ve seen police agencies fix on one suspect and believe they have the right person, and then I’ve watched them let go of that suspect when they develop other evidence and leads,” DeMuth said.

During the “Today” interviews, Ainsworth has been more direct about his theories in the case.

“I have not seen any evidence that would be compelling to suggest that John and Patsy did kill their daughter at this point. And the evidence to me certainly suggests that someone other than them committed the murder,” Ainsworth said.

The detective, who last worked with DeMuth to convict Longmont’s Matthew Mirabal of murdering his wife, said on the television show he isn’t sure why investigators were only focused on John and Patsy Ramsey .

“The reasons why we weren’t allowed to investigate any of the other things that came up — I don’t have the answer for that,” he said.

District Attorney Mary Keenan and Boulder police Chief Mark Beckner said they are not commenting on the case."
candy

East Lansing, MI

#18 Nov 26, 2006
And oh yes Nancy, DeMuth DOES work for Bynum's firm. He went to work for them Chrisman, Bynum and Johnson, and they were then bought out by the current Faegre. It's the same firm, bought out with the same members.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#19 Nov 26, 2006
I have to cut this article into 2 parts, it's too long for one post on this board:

www.dailycamera.com

DeMuth to begin new job

By Christopher Anderson
Camera Staff Writer

The Republican candidate for Boulder County District Attorney is raising questions about a former prosecutor's decision to take a job with a friend of John and Patsy Ramsey.
David Sanderson said Trip DeMuth's move shows the Boulder County District Attorney's Office is a "deeply rooted, incestuous establishment."
But those who worked with DeMuth say he is an ethical attorney bound not to disclose what he knows about the Ramsey investigation. They also discount claims of impropriety between the District Attorney's Office and the Ramseys.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#20 Nov 26, 2006
Part 2:

DeMuth, a 16-year veteran of the Boulder District Attorney's Office, worked on the unsolved 1996 JonBenét Ramsey homicide for nearly two years. He resigned in August after losing the Democratic primary election to colleague Mary Keenan.
DeMuth will begin a job Monday with the law firm of Chrisman, Bynum & Johnson. The firm specializes in business law and intellectual property cases. Mike Bynum, a senior partner in the firm, is a close friend of the Ramseys.
Although Sanderson said he does not believe DeMuth would disclose information to the Ramsey team, "I question the appearance of it," he said. "I think it's right for Boulder voters to question that, and I am sure Jay Leno and David Letterman will."
An appearance of impropriety could compromise the district attorney's ability to prosecute the case, he said.
The Ramseys remain under police suspicion in their daughter's death. The couple say they are innocent.
Boulder Police Chief Mark Beckner declined comment on DeMuth's new job other than to say, "it does raise some questions."
In his book, "JonBenét, Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation," former Boulder police detective Steve Thomas alleged DeMuth was among those on the Ramsey investigation looking for evidence to support contentions the girl was killed by an intruder.
DeMuth has said he doesn't have a theory about who killed JonBenét.
On Friday, he said he's been off the Ramsey case for two years and is "out of politics."
He said the reason he took the job has nothing to do with the Ramseys.
"It's the best commercial litigation law firm in Boulder County, and that's why I took it," he said of Chrisman, Bynum & Johnson.
Bynum advised the Ramseys after their daughter was found strangled and beaten in the basement of the family home. He also was among a group of investors who bought the Ramseys' Boulder home and now has it on the market.
A Boulder County deputy district attorney in the mid-1970s, Bynum took "Primetime Live" co-host Diane Sawyer on a tour of the house shortly after JonBenét's death.
He could not be reached for comment Friday.
The Ramseys' attorney, Lin Wood, said DeMuth's job with Bynum's firm has "absolutely noting to do with the Ramsey case."
"Trip DeMuth does not work for the Ramseys, has not provided any assistance or help to the Ramseys," Wood said. "The conspiracy theorist who thinks that because Mike Bynum is a friend of the Ramseys (and) somehow tries to put some kind of sinister connotation on it is just, as always, is wrong. Once again they are wrong."
Keenan said she does not believe DeMuth's decision to take the job has anything to do with the Ramsey case.
Keenan, who said she worked on isolated pieces of the Ramsey case, said she does not have any knowledge of unethical relationships between the district attorney's office and the Ramseys' attorneys.
First Assistant District Attorney Bill Wise said the law is clear that a prosecutor cannot divulge information about a case even after leaving office.
He said allegations that the District Attorney's Office carried on an unethical relationship with the Ramseys' attorneys is "a myth created by detective Steve Thomas." Thomas, a key detective on the Ramsey case resigned from the department, saying the District Attorney's Office compromised evidence in the case.
"That never, ever happened," Wise said. "We have a professional arms length relationship with the Ramseys' attorneys."

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

JonBenet Ramsey Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Howard Stern - FBI Profiler Analyses the Staff (Nov '12) 54 min KCinNYC 38
Wanted: Whistleblowers (Dec '15) 2 hr Let It Snow 19
News Globe: JonBenet Crime Scene Breakthrough (Aug '11) 2 hr Let It Snow 41
Evidence against Patsy Ramsey (Jun '07) 2 hr Let It Snow 318
An Intervention for Patsy? I Don't Think So. (Oct '09) 2 hr Let It Snow 195
Joran Van der Sloot CONFESSES in Peru (Jun '10) 2 hr Let It Snow 196
In Touch Weekly on the JonBenet Ramsey case (Apr '16) 2 hr KCinNYC 119
More from around the web