Jaclyn Dowaliby/JonBenet cases

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candy

East Lansing, MI

#1 Sep 12, 2009
This is an identical case from Chicago that preceded the Ramsey case, and the Ramsey lawyers also threatened to call Dowaliby's lawyers if the Ramseys were ever indicted:

Investigators and prosecutors believe the evidence pointed to David and Cynthia. No one saw anyone enter their home, no one heard the basement window break and nothing - other than an innocent child - was taken from modest tan brick home the night of Sept. 9, 1988.

"We felt these two people were responsible, and nothing that's happened since then has changed my mind," said former Illinois state police investigator Kevin Shaughnessy, who interrogated David Dowaliby on Sept. 14, 1988, and informed him Jaclyn's maggot-infested body had been discovered in Blue Island.

http://www.southtownstar.com/news/1765450,091...
Nelly

AOL

#2 Sep 12, 2009
How's it an identical case when the victim in the D case was found outside the home? Isn't this the case where the suitcase was next to the wall under the basement window? Weren't there two black streaks on the wall, as tho they used the suitcase to give them a boost? If so, whatta coincidence the R's had the same set up and their lawyers mentioned that very case!
candy

East Lansing, MI

#3 Sep 12, 2009
Tale similar to JonBenet's posed to bar

Author draws parallels in case of slain girls where parents were 'wrongly' suspected

By Charlie Brennan

By Charlie Brennan
Rocky Mountain News Staff Writer
August 8, 1998

BOULDER -- A story was told Friday of two parents wrongly accused in their daughter's murder, two parents whose cries of innocence weren't heeded until one was wrongly convicted and their lives turned upside down.
David Protess, co-author of Gone in the Night, spoke to the Boulder County branch of the Colorado Criminal Defense Bar about miscarriages of justice, most notably the 1988 Chicago-area murder of Jaclyn Dowaliby. He was there on the invitation of Boulder lawyer Michael Bynum, who represents John Ramsey's company, Access Graphics, and is a Ramsey family friend.
Protess's talk was timely in light of the unsolved JonBenet Ramsey homicide, in which John and Patsy Ramsey are suspects.
The audience included prosecutors from Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter's office, as well as two lawyers assisting the Ramseys with their own investigation of the Christmas night slaying.
"There are some obvious parallels'' between the Dowaliby and Ramsey cases, Protess said.
In both cases, only the two parents, a brother and the murdered girl were known to be in the house at bedtime.
In both cases, one or both parents, while protesting their innocence, quickly retained lawyers.
In both cases, the parents became suspects in the girls' murders. One significant difference is that while 7-year-old Jaclyn Dowaliby turned up dead four days after her disappearance in a field 5 miles from home, 6-year-old JonBenet was found strangled in her family's basement.
Society prefers to suspect family members in the cases of murdered children, Protess said.
"It's comforting to think that the parents did it,'' he said. "We don't want to accept that there are predators out there who can break into a home and kill a child.''
On the thinnest of evidence, Protess said, David and Cynthia Dowaliby were arrested and tried for their daughter's murder. Cynthia Dowaliby won a directed verdict of acquittal before the jury began deliberations. But her husband was found guilty and sentenced to 45 years in prison.
It was only through the appeals process that it was revealed three key witnesses had lied, and another had been mistaken in his testimony. David Dowaliby was exonerated.
Protess, a professor at Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism, said the media was used by Dowaliby investigators to fuel suspicion.
Several tips leaked by police and repeated by the press that were damaging to the Dowalibys -- such as that a basement window was allegedly broken from the inside -- were revealed later to have been lies.
No one else has ever been charged in the murder of Jaclyn Dowaliby.
"The Dowalibys were doubly wronged,'' Protess told the bar association gathering, "first by the killer, then by the authorities.''
http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/extra/ram ...
Nelly

AOL

#4 Sep 12, 2009
candy wrote:
Tale similar to JonBenet's posed to bar
Author draws parallels in case of slain girls where parents were 'wrongly' suspected
By Charlie Brennan
By Charlie Brennan
Rocky Mountain News Staff Writer
August 8, 1998
BOULDER -- A story was told Friday of two parents wrongly accused in their daughter's murder, two parents whose cries of innocence weren't heeded until one was wrongly convicted and their lives turned upside down.
David Protess, co-author of Gone in the Night, spoke to the Boulder County branch of the Colorado Criminal Defense Bar about miscarriages of justice, most notably the 1988 Chicago-area murder of Jaclyn Dowaliby. He was there on the invitation of Boulder lawyer Michael Bynum, who represents John Ramsey's company, Access Graphics, and is a Ramsey family friend.
Protess's talk was timely in light of the unsolved JonBenet Ramsey homicide, in which John and Patsy Ramsey are suspects.
The audience included prosecutors from Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter's office, as well as two lawyers assisting the Ramseys with their own investigation of the Christmas night slaying.
"There are some obvious parallels'' between the Dowaliby and Ramsey cases, Protess said.
In both cases, only the two parents, a brother and the murdered girl were known to be in the house at bedtime.
In both cases, one or both parents, while protesting their innocence, quickly retained lawyers.
In both cases, the parents became suspects in the girls' murders. One significant difference is that while 7-year-old Jaclyn Dowaliby turned up dead four days after her disappearance in a field 5 miles from home, 6-year-old JonBenet was found strangled in her family's basement.
Society prefers to suspect family members in the cases of murdered children, Protess said.
"It's comforting to think that the parents did it,'' he said. "We don't want to accept that there are predators out there who can break into a home and kill a child.''
On the thinnest of evidence, Protess said, David and Cynthia Dowaliby were arrested and tried for their daughter's murder. Cynthia Dowaliby won a directed verdict of acquittal before the jury began deliberations. But her husband was found guilty and sentenced to 45 years in prison.
It was only through the appeals process that it was revealed three key witnesses had lied, and another had been mistaken in his testimony. David Dowaliby was exonerated.
Protess, a professor at Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism, said the media was used by Dowaliby investigators to fuel suspicion.
Several tips leaked by police and repeated by the press that were damaging to the Dowalibys -- such as that a basement window was allegedly broken from the inside -- were revealed later to have been lies.
No one else has ever been charged in the murder of Jaclyn Dowaliby.
"The Dowalibys were doubly wronged,'' Protess told the bar association gathering, "first by the killer, then by the authorities.''
http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/extra/ram ...
Too bad they left her in the basement. That's one detail that trumps all the others, IMO.
Maybe had JB's killer plunked her under the Christmas tree, or just left her out in the open, the R's would have looked less "good for it". The hiding of the body, and the body being dressed, are two details that would have landed any other set of parents in prison.
LE goofed in the D. case, and they goofed in JB's. That fact is the one that makes these cases so similar...the rest just looks like an imitation of the other.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#5 Sep 12, 2009
The Boulder DA's office was there for a reason, for Bynum to show them through this case what a DISASTER it was for LE in Chicago to indict the parents. And I think the DA's office got the message that it held for the Ramsey case, you better have proof beyond a reasonable doubt for EACH parent, or don't bother to indict at all.
deb

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Sep 12, 2009
candy wrote:
The Boulder DA's office was there for a reason, for Bynum to show them through this case what a DISASTER it was for LE in Chicago to indict the parents. And I think the DA's office got the message that it held for the Ramsey case, you better have proof beyond a reasonable doubt for EACH parent, or don't bother to indict at all.
Thank God and our judicial system that they got the message!
candy

East Lansing, MI

#7 Sep 12, 2009
An interesting post:

03-10-2006, 12:47 PM
judy424purple
Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006
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My family lived across the street from the Dowaliby's and shortly after Jaclyn was murdered I worked at the local police department. Many believe that it was Jacylyn's uncle - but he was in jail at the time of her disappearence. The officers at the station believed that it was Cindy. Cindy and Dave were having a (supposedly a pot) party that night - it was believed that Jaclyn kept getting up. They believe that Cindy tied her to her bed and that Jaclyn accidently choked to death.

I saw Cindy at Jaclyn's wake and a few days later at the video store. She did not look like a grieving mother to me, she was laughing and joking. If my child had just been murdered you would have had to lock me away!

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php...

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Since: Aug 09

Bexley, Ohio

#8 Sep 12, 2009
candy wrote:
Tale similar to JonBenet's posed to bar
Author draws parallels in case of slain girls where parents were 'wrongly' suspected
By Charlie Brennan
By Charlie Brennan
Rocky Mountain News Staff Writer
August 8, 1998
BOULDER -- A story was told Friday of two parents wrongly accused in their daughter's murder, two parents whose cries of innocence weren't heeded until one was wrongly convicted and their lives turned upside down.
David Protess, co-author of Gone in the Night, spoke to the Boulder County branch of the Colorado Criminal Defense Bar about miscarriages of justice, most notably the 1988 Chicago-area murder of Jaclyn Dowaliby. He was there on the invitation of Boulder lawyer Michael Bynum, who represents John Ramsey's company, Access Graphics, and is a Ramsey family friend.
Protess's talk was timely in light of the unsolved JonBenet Ramsey homicide, in which John and Patsy Ramsey are suspects.
The audience included prosecutors from Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter's office, as well as two lawyers assisting the Ramseys with their own investigation of the Christmas night slaying.
"There are some obvious parallels'' between the Dowaliby and Ramsey cases, Protess said.
In both cases, only the two parents, a brother and the murdered girl were known to be in the house at bedtime.
In both cases, one or both parents, while protesting their innocence, quickly retained lawyers.
In both cases, the parents became suspects in the girls' murders. One significant difference is that while 7-year-old Jaclyn Dowaliby turned up dead four days after her disappearance in a field 5 miles from home, 6-year-old JonBenet was found strangled in her family's basement.
Society prefers to suspect family members in the cases of murdered children, Protess said.
"It's comforting to think that the parents did it,'' he said. "We don't want to accept that there are predators out there who can break into a home and kill a child.''
On the thinnest of evidence, Protess said, David and Cynthia Dowaliby were arrested and tried for their daughter's murder. Cynthia Dowaliby won a directed verdict of acquittal before the jury began deliberations. But her husband was found guilty and sentenced to 45 years in prison.
It was only through the appeals process that it was revealed three key witnesses had lied, and another had been mistaken in his testimony. David Dowaliby was exonerated.
Protess, a professor at Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism, said the media was used by Dowaliby investigators to fuel suspicion.
Several tips leaked by police and repeated by the press that were damaging to the Dowalibys -- such as that a basement window was allegedly broken from the inside -- were revealed later to have been lies.
No one else has ever been charged in the murder of Jaclyn Dowaliby.
"The Dowalibys were doubly wronged,'' Protess told the bar association gathering, "first by the killer, then by the authorities.''
http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/extra/ram ...
Protess is nuts. It's not that "society prefers it." The fact is that 92% of children found murdered inside their own home ARE murdered by one or both of their parents.(Source FBI)
Hannah A

De Pere, WI

#10 Feb 17, 2011
candy wrote:
An interesting post:
03-10-2006, 12:47 PM
judy424purple
Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1
My family lived across the street from the Dowaliby's and shortly after Jaclyn was murdered I worked at the local police department. Many believe that it was Jacylyn's uncle - but he was in jail at the time of her disappearence. The officers at the station believed that it was Cindy. Cindy and Dave were having a (supposedly a pot) party that night - it was believed that Jaclyn kept getting up. They believe that Cindy tied her to her bed and that Jaclyn accidently choked to death.
I saw Cindy at Jaclyn's wake and a few days later at the video store. She did not look like a grieving mother to me, she was laughing and joking. If my child had just been murdered you would have had to lock me away!
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php...
The person who posted that is wrong. Yeah, the paternal uncle and the biological father were suspected, but it was the bio. father that was incarcerated at the time of the murder.
cody

Washington, MI

#11 Feb 18, 2011
I see Candy's points......
I still think JBR's killer had intended to take her from the house, but that plan failed.
I'm sure 92% of spouses turn out to me their loved ones killer too ?
But, neither is 100%.
I hate to do life in jail over the 8% proof missing :(
Her parents did kill that baby. Not a chance.
I think they knew her killer ?
I think JB would have trusted him a bit ?
But, he had this all planned, up until he could get her out.....he did it there. Too sad.
Biz

Pinellas Park, FL

#12 Feb 19, 2011
Hannah A wrote:
<quoted text>
The person who posted that is wrong. Yeah, the paternal uncle and the biological father were suspected, but it was the bio. father that was incarcerated at the time of the murder.
The movie about the case left the uncle as a suspect but I guess they just don't have the proof to convict.
HoHo

Laconia, TN

#13 Feb 19, 2011
Read the book, "Gone in the Night", and excellent true crime account of this case that reads like a novel.

Also, there is a two part mini-series that runs a couple times a year on Lifetime that is based on the book with the same title.

My favorite part was when the mother was released after the prosecution rested because the judge said they hadn't presented any evidence that she had done anything other than going to sleep.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#14 Feb 20, 2011
Who's in prison for killing Jaclyn Dowaliby? NOBDOY. It reeks of Ramsey redeux to me.
HoHo

Laconia, TN

#15 Feb 22, 2011
It is exactly like the Ramseys. Both couples are innocent.
lhsally

Shelbyville, IN

#16 Mar 30, 2011
Candy: Your post saying that the uncle was in jail at the time of the murder proves that you are an imposter and was never a "neighbor" of the Dowaliby's. It was the biological father that was incarcerated at the time. Better check your facts before you decide to post a lie.haha People beware!

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Since: Nov 06

You might be dyslexic

#17 Mar 30, 2011
lhsally wrote:
Candy: Your post saying that the uncle was in jail at the time of the murder proves that you are an imposter and was never a "neighbor" of the Dowaliby's. It was the biological father that was incarcerated at the time. Better check your facts before you decide to post a lie.haha People beware!
You might want to learn how to read the post. Candy copied the post of judy424purple. I don't think that makes Candy responsible for the content of another poster's post. ;)
Limaes

Blacktown, Australia

#18 Apr 3, 2011
I have seen the movie "Gone in the night" and it is amazing how similar these cases have turned out. When reading the synopsis on the back of the DVD I actually thought it was about the JBR case.

Apart from the Dowaliby girl being found away from the home, things like the basement window, the scuff mark on the wall and hiring a retired Detective to have an unbiased look at the case (although in the Dowaliby case the retired Detective wasn't nuts or a fame whore)it was obvious that the R's defense team had mimicked this case with the way they have presented it to the public. Sad thing is, 2 young girls are dead and no one is being held accountable :(
tinydancer

Australia

#19 Apr 23, 2011
it doesnt matter whether the parents did it or not, the police screwed up the investigations and evidence, both in jaclyn and jonbenet's case
Biz

New Port Richey, FL

#20 Apr 24, 2011
When I saw the movie about the case looked to me like the family believed it was the uncle that was related to Cindy but I don't think they have any solid evidence to prove it. He was a real weirdo and he said something to Cindy that led her to believe he did it. It is obvious to me that the parents were completely innocent. It is so sad that David Dawaliby was put into prison for all that time.
Parents make mistakes regarding security. We can let our guard down at times. The grandmother accidently left the door open. I think there was also a window open.
In the Ramsey case we know the basement window was open and there may have been other windows open on the top floors. The butler pantry door was found to be open after John thought it was locked.

Since: Jul 10

Crimson Tide Bulldozed

#21 Apr 24, 2011
If there had been windows open on the second floor, how did someone get up to the 2nd floor to get in? The Butler door was reportedly found after people had been there for 2+ hours. Who knows how many people went in and out that door? The basement window was broken but no one verified if it was open, shut, locked or unlocked.
Biz wrote:
In the Ramsey case we know the basement window was open and there may have been other windows open on the top floors. The butler pantry door was found to be open after John thought it was locked.

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