systemic analgesic with amnesia

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Jan 4, 2010
 
I'm very interested in this.
Many of the posters here really seem to know things.
Anyone know much about this type of drug ?
I see Michael Jackson's med on the list as well as Fentynal.
Would ALL of these types of drugs be found in the blood stream after death ??
A movie, Kiss the girls", just a movie, but the detective names a drug that fits and the girl pulls through. No test for that drug.
The one named in the movie might not even be real. Anyone have that movie or know the name of the drug ??
Really want to know.
Thanks.
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Jan 4, 2010
 
Found the script !! I love the internet....

Nonresponsive pupils...
progressive loss of muscular control, escalating tremors...
That's what I see.
An overdose of Benzodiazepine would do that.
Yes, but every drug in the Benzo family...
shows up in blood and urine.
Ah, except Sistol.
It's a Benzo cousin.
Leukemia specialists are using it to take the edge off chemo.
- Is it an amnesiac?- Absolutely.
We'll see what your theory is made of by morning.
Mmm.

Still like to hear from people who know drugs ??
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Jan 4, 2010
 
Benzodiazepine -- found this on line.
It can be used for something as small as a Valium or as large as going under anesthesia.
If given for the wrong reasons.......in a child.....it would cause muscle weakness, amnesia to a large extent, possible vomiting after use - up to 48 hours of vomiting, a child would have to be carried or "walked" into a place.
Changes in vaginal area ?? What do they mean by that ??
Haven't found Sistol, maybe it's not real, just in the movie ??
I found more than just this one drug.
I want to know if any are untraceable at autopsy.
It would put you out pretty fast. But, would it be found in the blood stream after death ?
This one or others ??
I hope someone jumps in here and knows something about it.
Also looking for one that would cause headache with the vomiting.....

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Jan 4, 2010
 
How about not regurgitating drug talk all over the JonBenet Ramsey board? Surely there must be other boards which discuss like subjects.
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Jan 4, 2010
 
Still, no Sistol.....

Symptoms of midazolam overdose include:

Somnolence (difficulty staying awake)
Mental confusion
Hypotension
Impaired motor functions
Impaired reflexes
Impaired coordination
Impaired balance
Dizziness
Coma
Death
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Jan 4, 2010
 
GHB the date rape drug was very popular at the time of JBR's death. It would not have shown up on standard autopsy reports. I had always wondered if JBR had been given GHB. It didn't really become well known until the Max Factor heir was arrested for using it on girls and filming them.
Many girls were given it when it first came out and they had no idea what made them forget what had happened to them. It was a well kept secret for many years by date rapists and perverts.
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Jan 4, 2010
 
flipover wrote:
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Well, I'll stay on topic when everyone else does.
Too many threads here already that aren't about JBR.
If you don't want to read it, don't ?
Easy.
2nd that, flip! Explain the hat "flipover" :)

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Too many threads here already that aren't about JBR.
And this is how it happens!
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Jan 4, 2010
 
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And this is how it happens!
Take a hike Beatch! Who made you sheriff?
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Jan 4, 2010
 
Biz wrote:
GHB the date rape drug was very popular at the time of JBR's death. It would not have shown up on standard autopsy reports. I had always wondered if JBR had been given GHB. It didn't really become well known until the Max Factor heir was arrested for using it on girls and filming them.
Many girls were given it when it first came out and they had no idea what made them forget what had happened to them. It was a well kept secret for many years by date rapists and perverts.
I wonder when this drug first started being used ?
Before JBR's death ? I'll look it up. Thanks.

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Take a hike Beatch! Who made you sheriff?
Nice from someone with their head up their ___, LMAO

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Biz wrote:
GHB the date rape drug was very popular at the time of JBR's death. It would not have shown up on standard autopsy reports. I had always wondered if JBR had been given GHB. It didn't really become well known until the Max Factor heir was arrested for using it on girls and filming them.
Many girls were given it when it first came out and they had no idea what made them forget what had happened to them. It was a well kept secret for many years by date rapists and perverts.
Thanks for at least making it a JBR topic Biz. GHB can be found both in blood and in urine, and since they did a post mortem toxicology, I would venture a guess JBR wasn't given GHB since nothing was found in her system according to the toxicology study done at her autopsy.
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Nice from someone with their head up their ___, LMAO
haha. You must be referring to Tootlems avatar I assume.
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Thanks for at least making it a JBR topic Biz. GHB can be found both in blood and in urine, and since they did a post mortem toxicology, I would venture a guess JBR wasn't given GHB since nothing was found in her system according to the toxicology study done at her autopsy.
Just saying I had found reports that does NOT show up in standard autopsy reports. It may today but I would venture to guess that it didn't in 1996.
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Jan 4, 2010
 
Legal Eagle. I just found this link about GHB in 1995. It mentions that one girl's autopsy did not initially detect it. A later test did. I think it was just becoming popular back in 1996 so it wasn't tested for like it would be today.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/0004...
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Jan 4, 2010
 
And it was also not detected in River Phoenix's death despite reports that he had used it earlier that night:(GHB is said to leave the system very quickly, making it harder to detect)

GHB gained notoriety with the Halloween 1993 death of actor River Phoenix. Although rumors circulated that he ingested GHB earlier in the night, the autopsy released on November 1 was inconclusive as to the cause of death.

This link also explains that it wasn't declared a controled substance until 1994. So it appears that the DEA was just learning about this new drug just prior to JBR's murder.
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/dll/telr_ghb_... .

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haha. You must be referring to Tootlems avatar I assume.
Yes I was.

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Biz wrote:
Legal Eagle. I just found this link about GHB in 1995. It mentions that one girl's autopsy did not initially detect it. A later test did. I think it was just becoming popular back in 1996 so it wasn't tested for like it would be today.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/0004...
Thanks for the link. It would be interesting to know exactly what Meyer checked for, wouldn't it? The reason I brought up the fact that it can be found in blood and urine, we would almost hope that it might show up in one or the other. I will have to go back and look and see if I can find more about what Meyer did and didn't do.
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Jan 4, 2010
 
Thank you, Biz.
When did it hit the streets ?
Is it something a vet would use ??
I really don't know.
I look it up, I get porn sites ..........
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Jan 4, 2010
 
Ok, found stuff. So, it's an old drug.
Easy to get in the 70's and later.
But, would it be in the autopsy results for JBR or the occk kids ???
The 1970's and 1996 ?
Can't you inject it ?? I haven't found that info.

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