Two Parallels to Ramsey Murder re:Bi...

Two Parallels to Ramsey Murder re:Bill (Santa) & Janet McReynolds(author)

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Marilyn Oliver

Warren, OH

#1 Jun 27, 2006
Police question Boulder 'Santa,' wife
Associated Press
Monday, March 3, 1997
Boulder police are re-checking information from a local man who played Santa Claus at the home of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey two nights before she was murdered, and his wife.
Boulder investigators had interviewed Bill McReynolds, 67, a former University of Colorado journalism professor, and his wife Janet, 64, on Feb. 7, after they returned from a trip to Spain.
The Rocky Mountain News reported Sunday that police re-interviewed the McReynoldses and collected hair and handwriting samples from each of them last week. The News said police are interested in the McReynoldses because of two parallels to the Ramsey slaying.
One is the fact that the McReynoldses' middle daughter, then 9, was abducted along with a friend in Longmont and witnessed the sexual molestation of her friend. The incident occurred on Dec. 26, 1974. No suspects were ever arrested.
JonBenet was found murdered in the basement of her parents' luxurious Boulder home 22 years later. An autopsy showed that JonBenet may have been sexually assaulted.
Another parallel is an award-winning play written by Janet McReynolds in 1976. The play, "Hey Rube," is about the sexual assault, torture and murder of a girl whose body was found in a basement.
Janet McReynolds went with her husband to the Ramsey house on the night of Dec. 23, when he portrayed Santa at a Christmas party for the third consecutive year. Bill McReynolds was given a tour of the Ramsey's 6,866-square-foot home in 1995.
The McReynoldses told police their alibi for the night of JonBenet's murder was that they went to bed at 8 p.m. JonBenet died sometime between her bedtime Christmas night and dawn the following day.
"They've always said they're doing this for the purpose of exclusion," Janet McReynolds said of the police request for hair and handwriting samples. "I'm sure we're very far down the list of potential suspects."
Bill McReynolds said he had nothing to do with the murder and said his wife "could never be a suspect" in the case.
"I always told my students to seek the truth," he said. "Now I'm on the other side of it.... I'm probably naive and stupid."
He said the abduction of his own daughter and the play are coincidences.
"In my heart, I know there's no connection," he said. "Anything I'd say would sound suspicious. That's the nuts and bolts of it. "
Boulder spokesman Kelvin McNeill on Sunday refused to confirm that police had talked with the McReynoldses and declined comment about the couple's status in the investigation.
Janet McReynolds put little significance on the similarities between her play and the Ramsey case.
"I was surprised that the police wanted to talk to me about "Hey Rube' because it never occurred to me that there was a possible connection," she said.
Her play is a fictionalized account of the 1965 torture and murder of Sylvia Likens in Indiana. The 16-year-old girl was brutalized by a gang of teenagers and a woman who had agreed to board Likens in her home.
Janet McReynolds won a Western States Art Foundation regional prize and a $7,500 grant from the National Endowment for the Arts for the play in 1976, but it was never published. She refused to provide a copy to re porters, and a worldwide search conducted by a reference librarian at the Denver Public Library failed to find a copy.
"It would sound very quaint now," Janet McReynolds said. "It was a '70s play. It was written for its time."
She said the play is irrelevant to the Ramsey case.
Bill and Janet McReynolds say the only significance of their daughter's abduction to the Ramsey case, regardless of the dates, is that it underscores the compassion they feel for John and Patsy Ramsey.
Their daughter's ordeal "makes you sensitive to the horror" of JonBenet's murder, Janet McReynolds said.
joejam

AOL

#2 Aug 8, 2006
I know that this case has intrigued many. But now the more research I do...I really believe that this couple may have been involved. Not done it themselves necessarily but have it done. By a son? I just so wished this could be solved.
deb

AOL

#3 Aug 8, 2006
i hoped they interview their daughter
NoName

United States

#4 Aug 26, 2006
joejam wrote:
I know that this case has intrigued many. But now the more research I do...I really believe that this couple may have been involved. Not done it themselves necessarily but have it done. By a son? I just so wished this could be solved.
I too think that "Santa Claus McReynolds" may have been involved. Now that they have arrested John Karr, I am wondering if there is any evidence of a connection between Karr and McReynolds. Pedophiles share information, photos, etc. and the fact that McReynolds was in the Ramsey home right around the time of the murder of JonBenet, he may have left a window open or some other way for someone to have easy access into the home. He knew the home and had taken a tour of the home and there has always been speculation that there may have been more than one person responsible for the death of JonBenet.
sissi

AOL

#5 Aug 26, 2006
It's been said, that the only person to go into the basement the night of the 23rd. was Fleet White. He offered to retrieve a bottle of wine. McReynold's was given the house tour at the Christmas party of '95, at which time Jonbenet gave him the little "genie" bottle of sparkle dust. There's little doubt Santa was an odd guy, his affection for Jonbenet was over the top for a guy who had his own children and grandchildren. Normal men don't try to contact children, by mail ,phone or otherwise unless they're their own.
Cent Tech Boulder School

United States

#6 Aug 26, 2006
sissi wrote:
It's been said, that the only person to go into the basement the night of the 23rd. was Fleet White. He offered to retrieve a bottle of wine. McReynold's was given the house tour at the Christmas party of '95, at which time Jonbenet gave him the little "genie" bottle of sparkle dust. There's little doubt Santa was an odd guy, his affection for Jonbenet was over the top for a guy who had his own children and grandchildren. Normal men don't try to contact children, by mail ,phone or otherwise unless they're their own.
No one has ever given an explanation as to how his daughter's friend was raped and the daughter was not while they were both together. They never found the rapist.
Sherlock Claus

Astoria, NY

#7 Aug 29, 2006
Oh, there's more than a connection. McReynolds had a career before he became Santa. He was a professor of journalism as UC Boulder until 1992. Guess who else was a professor at the same time? The same gentleman, Prof. Tracey, who had an email conversation with Karr for the past 4 years, since 2002. Guess what else happened in 2002. McReynolds passed away.

My guess: McReynolds was involved. He informed his colleague, Dr. Tracey of it, letting him know key details. Upon his death, Tracey located a delusional pedophile, Karr, and over 4 years fed him details that "only the killer could know". Why would Tracey do this, you ask? Because he's writing a book and wants to make millions. That's why he isn't speaking to journalists, at least.
NoName wrote:
<quoted text> I too think that "Santa Claus McReynolds" may have been involved. Now that they have arrested John Karr, I am wondering if there is any evidence of a connection between Karr and McReynolds. Pedophiles share information, photos, etc. and the fact that McReynolds was in the Ramsey home right around the time of the murder of JonBenet, he may have left a window open or some other way for someone to have easy access into the home. He knew the home and had taken a tour of the home and there has always been speculation that there may have been more than one person responsible for the death of JonBenet.
deb

AOL

#8 Aug 29, 2006
sissi wrote:
It's been said, that the only person to go into the basement the night of the 23rd. was Fleet White. He offered to retrieve a bottle of wine. McReynold's was given the house tour at the Christmas party of '95, at which time Jonbenet gave him the little "genie" bottle of sparkle dust. There's little doubt Santa was an odd guy, his affection for Jonbenet was over the top for a guy who had his own children and grandchildren. Normal men don't try to contact children, by mail ,phone or otherwise unless they're their own.
HE ALSO HAD JONBENET AND OTHER DEAD CHILDREN'S NAMES ENGRAVED ON SOME INSTRUMENT HE KEPT. AND HE SAID THAT HE HAD THOUGHT PRIOR TO THE MURDER, THAT IF ANY ONE WANTED TO HURT THE RAMSEY'S, CHRISTMAS WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO. WHO WOULD EVER HAVE THESE THOUGHTS CROSS THEIR MIND, EXCEPT FOR A MURDERER. AND HE WENT ON AND ON SPEAKING AT THE FUNERAL. AND THEY WENT TO SPAIN ? SOON AFTER THE MURDER - COULD HAVE PLANNED IT THAT WAY TO GET OUT OF TOWN WITH ANY EVIDENCE LIKE THE ROPE, ETC. THEY MAY HAVE BELIEVED THEY WERE TRULY SAVING THE LITTLE GIRL THEY THOUGHT OF AS AN "ANGEL"...SBTC...THE Y WANTED TO SAVE HER BY THE CROSS. THEY ARE THE STRANGEST OF THE GROUP OF SUSPECTS!! AND OF COURSE, JONBENET DID SAY SANTA WAS
GOING TO MAKE A SPECIAL VISIT AFTER CHRISTMAS....
deb

AOL

#9 Aug 29, 2006
ANY HIS WIFE WAS A MOVIE REVIEWER. BUT, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR HIM NOT TO HAVE HIS BEARD HAIR LEFT BEHIND AT THE SCENE, BUT HE WAS IN THE HOUSE 2 DAYS PRIOR...SO HIS HAIR MIGHT BE THERE ANYWAY.

EVERYTHING POINTS TO THEM AS BEING THE MOST OBVIOUS SUSPECTS...
Les

Reston, VA

#10 Aug 29, 2006
McReynolds was cleared by the first DA Alex Hunter.
Victory

Marietta, GA

#11 Aug 29, 2006
Les wrote:
McReynolds was cleared by the first DA Alex Hunter.
Maybe the beard comes off in private??
joejam

AOL

#12 Aug 30, 2006
Les wrote:
McReynolds was cleared by the first DA Alex Hunter.
How was he cleared? DNA don't think so
Les

Reston, VA

#13 Aug 31, 2006
He was cleared on the basis of the DNA. They had hair samples. There's very little DNA in the boiler room that may have belonged to the outsider. The preponderence of the hair and fiber particles came from the people inside the house. Because the crime scene was contaminated by the Ramseys during the search, they have a plausible alibi for how the individual particles got in the boiler room or on the body.
g girl on the fence

Overland Park, KS

#14 Aug 31, 2006
Les wrote:
He was cleared on the basis of the DNA. They had hair samples. There's very little DNA in the boiler room that may have belonged to the outsider. The preponderence of the hair and fiber particles came from the people inside the house. Because the crime scene was contaminated by the Ramseys during the search, they have a plausible alibi for how the individual particles got in the boiler room or on the body.
Do they have valid DNA from the hair? Do you know if the DNA on the panties has been determined to be useful?
Daniel Pride

Portsmouth, NH

#15 Sep 10, 2006
This is the actual story about the bus station incident.
It has been somewhat missrepresented in the Main Stream Media and certain important facts have been selectively omitted
http://www.kingsolomonsgate.com/Christmas96.h...
Dan Pride
The Guy in the Station that night
Victory

Loganville, GA

#16 Sep 10, 2006
What are some missrepresentations and what facts were omitted, Daniel?
Autumn

AOL

#17 Sep 10, 2006
Daniel Pride wrote:
This is the actual story about the bus station incident.
It has been somewhat missrepresented in the Main Stream Media and certain important facts have been selectively omitted
http://www.kingsolomonsgate.com/Christmas96.h...
Dan Pride
The Guy in the Station that night
Have you been asked or thought about being hypnotized??
Artman

AOL

#18 Sep 11, 2006
Autumn wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you been asked or thought about being hypnotized??
Autumn, good suggestion. Dan, if it helps any, when I saw you on TV, I knew somehow you were infact a credible guy. Wouldn't want you to become obsessed, but have you ever tried self hypnosis?
Dan Pride

Portsmouth, NH

#19 Oct 4, 2006
Dear Artman
It does help and Thank You. I have actually been hypnotised once before to remember a database password for a client, it actually worked ! Since then I have used those techniques to try to remember stuff when I had to (working as a database designer the issue comes up from time to time).

The face just isn't there (in memory), the voice is Karrs or very close, the thinness and posture fit Karr also. He seems right....

I am convinced that the timing (1;00 am) the location (15 minutes from the house) and the reaction (TOTALLY freaked) and the followup behavior (easily interpreted as panic at being recognized) make the issue of remembering it important. I have run those few seconds and minutes (on the bus) through my mind a thousand times but it just won't pop, even if it did at this point how confident could I be? Not confident enough to say "Kill this man on my word I saw him"...

I think there is surveillance video from the station, but they are not talking at this point.

I was hoping that if Karr really wanted to confess and clense his soul he would be able to identify something about how I was dressed that day (I know the jacket and the distinctive shoes I was wearing that day and pictures exist at Macs christmas dinner for the rest). The meeting had to be stranger and more memorable for the other guy than for me, it was just wierd for me , for him it was terrifying.

The impulse to cleanse the soul can be very powerful, justifiably so... I don't think this is over yet.

Dan Pride
http://www.kingsolomonsgate.com/Christmas96.h...
g girl on the fence

Overland Park, KS

#20 Oct 4, 2006
Les wrote:
McReynolds was cleared by the first DA Alex Hunter.
I'm not familiar with the timeline, but wasn't the first DA gone by the time the DNA was tersted?

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