Chief James Kolar on the JonBenet Ramsey case, 8/4/13

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First, I want to get to his Burke was responsible for the head blow theory. AMAZINGLY, he seems to believe John and Patsy Ramseys story that JonBenet fell asleep in the car, and they carried the sleeping child up to her bed, the last time they claim they ever saw her alive.

Kolar doesn't mention that BURKE HAD A DIFFERENT STORY THAN THIS PARENTS, that HE said HE saw JonBenet WALK UP THE STAIRS followed by PATSY after they got home from the Whites.

In Kolar's scenerio, he has John Ramsey wake his sleeping daughter to go to the bathroom before she goes to bed. He mentions that RED (he doesn't say red, but it's the RED sweater) found in the bathroom, that meant so much to Steve Thomas. He mentions that sweater being TAKEN OFF, as if she WORE IT to the Whites that night. I have posted before how in the movie "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, JonBenet is shown in supposed pictures from that Christmas party at the Whites as wearing the RED SWEATER. Kolar has her waking up to go to the bathroom, and then she discovers she is hungry, as she ate little at the Whites house that night.(More, next post)
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So JonBenet goes downstairs, where Patsy has laid out a snack of PINEAPPLE. JonBenet grabs "a nibble" of the pineapple, a small amount, and the altercation with Burke happens, first with him twisting the turtleneck sweater, and later the head blow with the MAG LIGHT FLASH LIGHT that Dr. Werner Spitz said WAS the instrument used to inflict that massive and would have been FATAL head wound.
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My problem with this whole theory is I DON'T BELIEVE the Scams story that JonBenet was asleep and carried up to her room asleep. I believe what Burke said that she WALKED up the stairs, followed by her stage mother, Patsy.

In Kolar's scenerio, Patsy is somewhere else when these two confornations between Jonbenet and Burke occur, the first, which caused the twisting of the turtleneck on JonBenet and the second, the massive head blow. My problem with this is, thinking back in my own life, how often did I ever see my younger brother and sister sharing a late snack without one parent or other (usually our mother) being VERY close by. NEVER can I recall an unsupervised snack like that. WHY? Because kids can still cause a whole lot of trouble because they are kids, like try to use a burner and leave it on, causing a fire. That's one disaster scenerios, and that's why there was never a parent far from the scen that I recall. So I don't believe the two children were left unattended for these FATAL fight to take place. ALSO, the kitchen, dining areas are WOMEN'S areas to talk, congregate, etc. and I believe Patsy WAS there in the immediate vicinity when some kind of argument occurred with the kid she was obsessed with , and living through, JonBenet where PATSY first twisted the turtleneck, then, the fight escalated, and in a fit of rage, whacked JonBenet over the head in the fatal head blow.
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Somehow, JonBenet ends up downstairs in the basement. Kolar doesn't say why, he doesn't say who carried her down there, just that she ended up down there. That's where the staging occurs and then the fatal ligature strangulation which was the official cause of death for JonBenet Ramsey. He doesn't mention Patsy Ramsey told LHP that whenever she had something she didn't know what do do with, SHE TOOK IT TO THE BASEMENT.
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I find it interesting that most of the posters she has from her forums that call in or are invited to call in ALMOST NEVER POST ON THIS CASE when Kolar isn't around. They are goine for MONTHS AT A TIME from posting, and they mention the same old stuff they always mention, the salacious, phone record questions, etc.

Tricia doesn't understand libel suits and why Kolar hasn't been "bothered by" Lin Wood like Steve Thomas was. IT'S BECAUSE KOLAR'S BOOK has not received ANY major TV exposure like Steve Thomas's did, and it didn't SELL anything like Steve Thomas's book with MAJOR MEDIA EXPSOURE did. The Scams were upset with Wendy Murphy when she was on CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other MAJOR NEWS NETWORKS getting NATIONAL exposure for her controversial theories. WHY SHOULD THEY CARE what she or Kolar say on blog radio with viewers ONLY in the two or three digits? It isn't worth Lin Wood's while to sue over a book most people have not heard of, that's a major reason why he didn't sue no doubt, like he didn't other books no one heard of.
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NO ONE asked about the infamous "box of chocolates" found in JonBenet's room, and if that and other things could not have been indicative of a fight, blood on her pillow, fibers conssistent with a hanging, loom pot holders strewn all over they floor, etc.

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A nine year old boy would certainy know how a hammer is wielded and a stabbing is done independent of being involved in delivering such blows to a person himself. Duh!
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candy wrote:
First, I want to get to his Burke was responsible for the head blow theory. AMAZINGLY, he seems to believe John and Patsy Ramseys story that JonBenet fell asleep in the car, and they carried the sleeping child up to her bed, the last time they claim they ever saw her alive.
Kolar doesn't mention that BURKE HAD A DIFFERENT STORY THAN THIS PARENTS, that HE said HE saw JonBenet WALK UP THE STAIRS followed by PATSY after they got home from the Whites.
In Kolar's scenerio, he has John Ramsey wake his sleeping daughter to go to the bathroom before she goes to bed. He mentions that RED (he doesn't say red, but it's the RED sweater) found in the bathroom, that meant so much to Steve Thomas. He mentions that sweater being TAKEN OFF, as if she WORE IT to the Whites that night. I have posted before how in the movie "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, JonBenet is shown in supposed pictures from that Christmas party at the Whites as wearing the RED SWEATER. Kolar has her waking up to go to the bathroom, and then she discovers she is hungry, as she ate little at the Whites house that night.(More, next post)
Yes, that whole business with the sweater seemed very confused.
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candy wrote:
Somehow, JonBenet ends up downstairs in the basement. Kolar doesn't say why, he doesn't say who carried her down there, just that she ended up down there. That's where the staging occurs and then the fatal ligature strangulation which was the official cause of death for JonBenet Ramsey. He doesn't mention Patsy Ramsey told LHP that whenever she had something she didn't know what do do with, SHE TOOK IT TO THE BASEMENT.
Burke, according to the book of Kolar, poked JonBenet with the toy train tracks downstairs, therefore Patsy should be offstage for this stage of the proceedings.
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candy wrote:
NO ONE asked about the infamous "box of chocolates" found in JonBenet's room, and if that and other things could not have been indicative of a fight, blood on her pillow, fibers conssistent with a hanging, loom pot holders strewn all over they floor, etc.
koldkase asked about blood on the pillow. I think that Kolar didn't know about it or perhaps said there wasn't any. Can't remember.

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candy wrote:
Kolar doesn't mention that BURKE HAD A DIFFERENT STORY THAN THIS PARENTS, that HE said HE saw JonBenet WALK UP THE STAIRS followed by PATSY after they got home from the Whites.
Burke's original recollection was from the interview at the White's which was expunged from the records.

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I find it interesting that you continue to talk about stuff you have no clue about! There is a reason current case discussion and/or new and ongoing projects are private and one only has to read your post again to understand why!

It is because of people like you and your constant need to rip to shreds what others do on this case (that you are not a part of) that it is kept inaccessible to you and people like you. There are major projects going on all the time.
candy wrote:
I find it interesting that most of the posters she has from her forums that call in or are invited to call in ALMOST NEVER POST ON THIS CASE when Kolar isn't around. They are goine for MONTHS AT A TIME from posting, and they mention the same old stuff they always mention, the salacious, phone record questions, etc.
Just plain wrong on so many levels I don’t have the energy to address it, LOL!
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Tricia doesn't understand libel suits and why Kolar hasn't been "bothered by" Lin Wood like Steve Thomas was. IT'S BECAUSE KOLAR'S BOOK has not received ANY major TV exposure like Steve Thomas's did, and it didn't SELL anything like Steve Thomas's book with MAJOR MEDIA EXPSOURE did.
Wendy Murphy told Wood to “bring it on” and he caved against her because he was all bark and no bite, and she just the opposite. He ran screaming like a little girl. If Wood couldn’t browbeat you, he turned tail and ran.
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The Scams were upset with Wendy Murphy when she was on CNN, MSNBC, FOX and other MAJOR NEWS NETWORKS getting NATIONAL exposure for her controversial theories.
Which is a perfect example of it isn’t WHAT they are saying, it is only can Wood intimidate and file yet another frivolous lawsuit against someone he considers to be weaker than he is! Can he step on someone’s head in indignation? If not, he is less than interested.

More importantly, WOOD is not challenging what is being said either. Why? Because, he cannot disprove the truth.
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WHY SHOULD THEY CARE what she or Kolar say on blog radio with viewers ONLY in the two or three digits? It isn't worth Lin Wood's while to sue over a book most people have not heard of, that's a major reason why he didn't sue no doubt, like he didn't other books no one heard of.

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Nothing was expunged. It waas sealed because he was a minor at the time.
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Burke's original recollection was from the interview at the White's which was expunged from the records.
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candy wrote:
NO ONE asked about the infamous "box of chocolates" found in JonBenet's room, and if that and other things could not have been indicative of a fight, blood on her pillow, fibers conssistent with a hanging, loom pot holders strewn all over they floor, etc.
Re: the infamous box of chocolates. I think Kolar has said previously that it wasn't collected. He likely doesn't have much information about it. That hasn't stopped him from hanging his theory of the crime on it.
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DrSeussMd wrote:
Nothing was expunged. It waas sealed because he was a minor at the time.
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Baloney. It is not/ was not "sealed because he was a minor at the time." It's SEALED because it's part of an OPEN murder case, and ALL the evidence and interviews are sealed, except the evidence that has been deliberately leaked.
This interview is what the Ramseys called an "illegal" interview because Burke was interviewed by the police without a lawyer, and it probably will not be admitted as evidence in any trial because of that.
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In the book, the Ramseys accuse police of illegally conducting an interview with their son, Burke, while he was staying with friends on Dec. 26, 1996.

The Ramseys said police interviews of children in Colorado must be conducted with the permission of a parent or guardian, which they suggest that police did not have. The Ramseys said they were unaware of the interview until Burke was subpoenaed before a grand jury in 1999.

Beckner said Friday the interview was not illegal because the law only applies to children who are being treated as suspects.

Burke was not being interviewed as a suspect at the time, Beckner said.

http://web.dailycamera.com/extra/ramsey/2000/...
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In Kolar's scenerio, he has John Ramsey wake his sleeping daughter to go to the bathroom before she goes to bed. He mentions that RED (he doesn't say red, but it's the RED sweater) found in the bathroom, that meant so much to Steve Thomas. He mentions that sweater being TAKEN OFF, as if she WORE IT to the Whites that night. I have posted before how in the movie "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, JonBenet is shown in supposed pictures from that Christmas party at the Whites as wearing the RED SWEATER. Kolar has her waking up to go to the bathroom, and then she discovers she is hungry, as she ate little at the Whites house that night.(More, next post)
I don't remember how Kolar deals with evidence of bed-wetting that night: the red turtleneck, the urine-stained sheets, the Pull-ups half out of the cabinet. Does he more or less ignore it in his book?
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egad wrote:
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I don't remember how Kolar deals with evidence of bed-wetting that night: the red turtleneck, the urine-stained sheets, the Pull-ups half out of the cabinet. Does he more or less ignore it in his book?
My recollection is: he paid a LOT of attention to the red turtleneck, but not much to the other things. That doesn't mean too much, other people, notably, Steve Thomas spent a LOT of time on those. He also doesn't go into why he doesn't think any of the other people thrown under the bus committed this crime.
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candy wrote:
In the book, the Ramseys accuse police of illegally conducting an interview with their son, Burke, while he was staying with friends on Dec. 26, 1996.
The Ramseys said police interviews of children in Colorado must be conducted with the permission of a parent or guardian, which they suggest that police did not have. The Ramseys said they were unaware of the interview until Burke was subpoenaed before a grand jury in 1999.
Beckner said Friday the interview was not illegal because the law only applies to children who are being treated as suspects.
Burke was not being interviewed as a suspect at the time, Beckner said.
http://web.dailycamera.com/extra/ramsey/2000/...
This is a telling example of how the Scams acted guilty from the very beginning. Here is Burke, the closest in physical proximity to JonBenet, who the Scams claim was kidnapped, is missing at the time, and the police doing THEIR JOB want to question the person directly down the hall from where they claim their family member was kidnapped. The Scams asked him NO QUESTIONS about what he heard that night before he went over to the Whites. The Scams yell "illegal interview", etc. It's THEY who are acting strange, not the cops.

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candy wrote:
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Baloney. It is not/ was not "sealed because he was a minor at the time." It's SEALED because it's part of an OPEN murder case, and ALL the evidence and interviews are sealed, except the evidence that has been deliberately leaked.
This interview is what the Ramseys called an "illegal" interview because Burke was interviewed by the police without a lawyer, and it probably will not be admitted as evidence in any trial because of that.
You and Seuss are both right. If you want to argue, why aren't you arguing with Moon Jack who said it was expunged when it wasn't?

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