Stan Garnett: We will NEVER give up ...
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#29 Oct 18, 2011
Henri McPhee wrote:
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I think deb is quite correct.
There was a horrified response by Boulder police chief Mark Beckner when Detective Steve Ainsworth, who believes in the Ramsey case intruder theory, and he is a homicide detective who has worked on the Ramsey case for the DA's office. Detective Ainsworth appeared on TV once.
The Boulder cops are stupid cops and they are idiots. Does anybody know exactly what homicide experience and qualifications these Boulder cops have had to be investigating a difficult and high profile murder case like the Ramsey case?:
Monday
"The reasons why we weren't allowed to investigate any of the other things that came up I, I don't have the answer for that."
I'm not sure where this comes from. As stated above, he was not working for the BPD and his role was defined by the District Attorney. Did he not understand his role or position in the investigation?
"I have not seen any evidence that would be compelling to suggest that John and Patsy did kill their daughter at this point. And the evidence to me certainly suggests that someone committed the murder other than them."
It is astounding that he could make this statement on an active investigation. Again, this is a clear violation of stated Sheriff's Office policy and one that may someday be detrimental to a prosecution. This also has nothing to do with Lou Smit or his character.
On possible family involvement...
"You can look at it that way, but having been inside the case for the time I was and seeing the information that was there, it doesn't suggest that to me."
Tuesday
Commenting on Steve Thomas...
"The work that he had done before this was all in narcotics and that is a unique position in that your suspect is already identified, then you go about getting the evidence to prove whatever violation you suspect him of. And, in a homicide investigation or almost any other criminal investigation, it's kind of putting the cart before the horse, you need to follow the evidence and then develop the suspect, rather than the other way around."
"I think that he became not necessarily overzealous, but he had difficulty in shaking that way of investigation because if you do it for awhile, it's very difficult to make that transition."
These two statements have nothing to do with Lou Smit, but instead are simply critical of a former investigator and through association, all the investigators who have worked on this case, with the exception of course Lou Smit, Trip DeMuth, and himself. Regardless of Steve's approach, there were many experienced investigators working this investigation who were and have been analyzing all the evidence."
And yet you accuse Fleet White of murder with almost every post you make and there is NO evidence that he was involved.

You're such a hypocrite, Henny.

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#31 Feb 18, 2012
Henri McPhee wrote:
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I think deb is quite correct.
There was a horrified response by Boulder police chief Mark Beckner when Detective Steve Ainsworth, who believes in the Ramsey case intruder theory, and he is a homicide detective who has worked on the Ramsey case for the DA's office. Detective Ainsworth appeared on TV once.
The Boulder cops are stupid cops and they are idiots. Does anybody know exactly what homicide experience and qualifications these Boulder cops have had to be investigating a difficult and high profile murder case like the Ramsey case?:
Monday
"The reasons why we weren't allowed to investigate any of the other things that came up I, I don't have the answer for that."
I'm not sure where this comes from. As stated above, he was not working for the BPD and his role was defined by the District Attorney. Did he not understand his role or position in the investigation?
"I have not seen any evidence that would be compelling to suggest that John and Patsy did kill their daughter at this point. And the evidence to me certainly suggests that someone committed the murder other than them."
It is astounding that he could make this statement on an active investigation. Again, this is a clear violation of stated Sheriff's Office policy and one that may someday be detrimental to a prosecution. This also has nothing to do with Lou Smit or his character.
On possible family involvement...
"You can look at it that way, but having been inside the case for the time I was and seeing the information that was there, it doesn't suggest that to me."
Tuesday
Commenting on Steve Thomas...
"The work that he had done before this was all in narcotics and that is a unique position in that your suspect is already identified, then you go about getting the evidence to prove whatever violation you suspect him of. And, in a homicide investigation or almost any other criminal investigation, it's kind of putting the cart before the horse, you need to follow the evidence and then develop the suspect, rather than the other way around."
"I think that he became not necessarily overzealous, but he had difficulty in shaking that way of investigation because if you do it for awhile, it's very difficult to make that transition."
These two statements have nothing to do with Lou Smit, but instead are simply critical of a former investigator and through association, all the investigators who have worked on this case, with the exception of course Lou Smit, Trip DeMuth, and himself. Regardless of Steve's approach, there were many experienced investigators working this investigation who were and have been analyzing all the evidence."
Good post. Thanks for sharing, Henri.

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

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#32 Feb 18, 2012
MamaIDIotTroll wrote:
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Good post. Thanks for sharing, Henri.
Digging up ancient posts again GAR?

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#33 Feb 18, 2012
Yes, creep. Per LE's request...

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#34 Feb 18, 2012
Btw, are you able to self-diagnose? I imagine a narcissist would be incapable of that.

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#36 Feb 18, 2012
MamaIDIotTroll wrote:
Btw, are you able to self-diagnose? I imagine a narcissist would be incapable of that.
Sitting by the computer all day again GAR?

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#37 Feb 18, 2012
MamaIDIotTroll wrote:
Yes, creep. Per LE's request...
Blaming your behavior on others again GAR?

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#39 Feb 19, 2012
candy wrote:
Garnett has asked for $3,188 for 100 padded folding chairs,$2,557 for 34 lightweight folding tables, and $2,643 for two lecterns equipped for electronic presentations. His staff has said the conference room will accommodate 100 people for training, staff meetings, community meetings and other large-group gatherings.
They must be playing bingo on Friday nites with all those tables & chairs because they certainly aren't holding press conferences about John Ramsey's arrest and trial.

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#40 Feb 20, 2012
Stan didn't buy regular folding chairs he bought padded ones and probably paid extra for caps on the legs so they don't scuff.

I'll check with other courthouses but I'm sure nobody has that many. They would need a room all to themselves when not in use.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#42 Jun 4, 2014
Stan Garnett did a masterful job in personally trying the Mapleton Elk case, which yesterday convicted former BPD officer Samuel Carter on ALL counts, including FIVE felonies.

He refused to offer a plea deal to Carter, saying the public's outrage over the incident was justified, and they had the right to see what the evidence showed in the case. At all stages of the trial, you could see Garnett in action, shrewedly asking questions in voir dire to determine biases, presenting his case, cross examining witnesses, including the second cop, who did receive a plea deal, because, as Garnett noted, his own lawyers told him he would be found guilty. It was a JUDICIOUS use of a plea deal, making the case easier, and costing less for the taxpayer. In just 5 years in office, Stan Garnett has completely changed the Boulder DA's office from plea bargain city, to one where they try AND win cases, including this one. He is a rare breed, his ideals intact after years in the private sector, honing his craft, bringing his A game and skills to public service, and the public in Boulder County is really lucky to have someone of his caliber as DA. I hope someday the evidence comes together in the Ramsey case, and there is a case he can take before the jury. He has the gravitas and the trust of the community, he's in tune with the community, and a native son, having lived in Boulder almost all of his life, the skills and staff he has trained as well to go up against Team Ramsey. He would be a powerful advocate, just like he was here, in the Elk case.
Paper Test

Swartz Creek, MI

#44 Jun 6, 2014
It may come soon!

CSI

Since: Jan 17

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#45 Nov 25, 2017
candy wrote:
Stan Garnett did a masterful job in personally trying the Mapleton Elk case, which yesterday convicted former BPD officer Samuel Carter on ALL counts, including FIVE felonies.

He refused to offer a plea deal to Carter, saying the public's outrage over the incident was justified, and they had the right to see what the evidence showed in the case. At all stages of the trial, you could see Garnett in action, shrewedly asking questions in voir dire to determine biases, presenting his case, cross examining witnesses, including the second cop, who did receive a plea deal, because, as Garnett noted, his own lawyers told him he would be found guilty. It was a JUDICIOUS use of a plea deal, making the case easier, and costing less for the taxpayer. In just 5 years in office, Stan Garnett has completely changed the Boulder DA's office from plea bargain city, to one where they try AND win cases, including this one. He is a rare breed, his ideals intact after years in the private sector, honing his craft, bringing his A game and skills to public service, and the public in Boulder County is really lucky to have someone of his caliber as DA. I hope someday the evidence comes together in the Ramsey case, and there is a case he can take before the jury. He has the gravitas and the trust of the community, he's in tune with the community, and a native son, having lived in Boulder almost all of his life, the skills and staff he has trained as well to go up against Team Ramsey. He would be a powerful advocate, just like he was here, in the Elk case.
Team Garnett.

Thank you Candy, wherever you are,
Let It Snow

Spring, TX

#47 Jan 16, 2018
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