The Oakland County Child Killer
STC

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#15754 Jul 22, 2013
Les wrote:
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Now if Helen just had your phenomenal insight she could pick up on all my clues. The pieces are there. You just have to push it in the right place.
Yes Yes !!!!!
Push it in the right place !!!!!
Helen .....another subliminal reference from Les to you !!!!!!!!!

So Helen , can you enlighten us all and especially Les ?
Just where is the right place to push you ??
Where exactly is you your sweet spot located ??
A ring a ding ding baby @!!!!!!!!!
Reasoning

Sterling Heights, MI

#15757 Jul 22, 2013
Les wrote:
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This is how constructive dialoge works. You ask Les can you clarify what you meant by that? Then I say Helen I will do my best.
Helen your like a primate in your communication skills. You are so out of synch with the world.
Les I have to apologize for something. I had a very misunderstanding of you. You are actually a bigger retard than I originally anticipated.

Look at all the garbage you've posted here thru the years. And look at this ego of yours. You keep drawing other people in your discussions that don't support you as you claim. Now you tell me who has communication skills and out of sync with the world? That is really calling the kettle black if there ever was one!

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#15758 Jul 22, 2013
STC wrote:
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Yes Yes !!!!!
Push it in the right place !!!!!
Helen .....another subliminal reference from Les to you !!!!!!!!!
So Helen , can you enlighten us all and especially Les ?
Just where is the right place to push you ??
Where exactly is you your sweet spot located ??
A ring a ding ding baby @!!!!!!!!!
Are you insane??
What is wrong with you??
Why don't you take your schtick down a notch to PG13.
STC

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#15762 Jul 22, 2013
Ursula- wrote:
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Are you insane??
What is wrong with you??
Why don't you take your schtick down a notch to PG13.
I didn't use any swear words .
There was no blue language .
I challenge you to prove otherwise .
Get your mind out of the gutter and don't try to read into other peoples words.
Tell me .....Just what is goin on in ur nasty mind ??
STC

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#15763 Jul 22, 2013
Reasoning wrote:
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Les I have to apologize for something. I had a very misunderstanding of you. You are actually a bigger retard than I originally anticipated.
Look at all the garbage you've posted here thru the years. And look at this ego of yours. You keep drawing other people in your discussions that don't support you as you claim. Now you tell me who has communication skills and out of sync with the world? That is really calling the kettle black if there ever was one!
Your routine is tight . My compliments to you sir. At first you were rather boring , no offense . But you have refined your craft and now your posts are bar none the most interesting to read . Kudos to you and keep up the fun !!!!!!!!
Les

Warren, MI

#15764 Jul 22, 2013
Tell me Helen again how you are so sure that Oakland County was wrong in issuing me a Grand Jury Subpeana? They need to hire you as a consultant and save the tax payers money. That day took up a lot of people's time. They respected what I testified enough to make a news release about how many victims fell to the OCCK. It's easy for people to see if you can't explain something you go back to your copy and paste routine.
Les

Warren, MI

#15765 Jul 22, 2013
Reasoning wrote:
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Les I have to apologize for something. I had a very misunderstanding of you. You are actually a bigger retard than I originally anticipated.
Look at all the garbage you've posted here thru the years. And look at this ego of yours. You keep drawing other people in your discussions that don't support you as you claim. Now you tell me who has communication skills and out of sync with the world? That is really calling the kettle black if there ever was one!
Gee Whizz Reasoning I got an A in report writing. I flunked my creative writing class. I have no imagination what so ever.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#15767 Jul 22, 2013
Les wrote:
Let’s forget that I am an eyewitness
EYEWITNESS TO WHAT? HINDSIGHT? A GEAND OLD GAME OF PIN THE TAIL ON THE DONKEY?
Punky drove two vehicles that matched the descriptions given by witnesses.
Even if those witnesses were wrong it is about one million to one odds that one person drove both of those vehicles. Now add that Punky was desperate to change the colors of those vehicles. One to the exact color that the witness said the car was not (White)
NO PROOF
Punky had hand soap next to the shower and tub that may have been used to cleanse the children.
NO PROOF
Now go ahead and say none of these items were used in the crimes. It is still one hell of a coincidence that Punky possessed all three. So much so that you have to believe the original task force was correct and later detectives down played these facts to accommodate their own suspects.
SPECULATION
Now let’s move on to Buster.
NO THANKS, I'LL PASS.
Now what are the odds that Punky’s friends were not allowed in his cabin during the disappearance of Jane Allen. They were sure Punky had something in the cabin that they weren’t allowed to see.
WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE? NONE HAVE STEPPED UP TO VOUCH FOR YOU.
Not even mentioning that I saw a naked picture of Jane Allen in Punky’s possession.
DOES NOT EXIST
Punky commented to me that the garage would be an easy place to gas someone and the coroners report said Jane Allen was gassed many hours before she was dropped in the river.
ALLEGEDLY COMMENTED
Punky told several people that he was a killer.
NO LIVING WITNESSES - EVEN YOUR ONLY LIVING BROTHER WILL NOT VOUCH FOR YOU
Punky hid pictures and a Poloroid camera in the drop ceiling.
ALLEGEDLY HID PICTURES - EVEN IF THERE WERE PICTURES THERE IS NOTHING TO TIE THEM TO PUNKY
Punky became paranoid that the police were moving in on him.
OR SO YOU LIKE TO THINK....NOW
Fact: Punky’s boss, a priest, owned the blue Gremlin and he was busted with child porn and also molesting children. Another priest involved was a member of a pedophile group.
AND THERE WAS YOU
This list can go on and on. Now back to the polygraph. If I can pass a polygraph that I am an eyewitness the odds that Punky is the killer is too large for the mind to comprehend.
FOR YOUR MIND TO COMPREHEND
A 0 IN .00000009 CHANCE
.
Now go ahead aholes and keep saying I have nothing.
YOU HAVE NOTHING
Just dig up the dog.
YOU DIG UP THE DOG YOU NECROPHILOAC
Matter of fact that is the reason I am being polygraphed.
LIE. THE ONLY ONE WHO WOULD POLYGRAPH YOU W/O A BOAT LOAD OF MONEY IS PATRICK. AND YOU'RE TOO AFRAID HE'S A SHOWBOATER.
I was told they believe me.
THAT'S CONVINCING.
None of you can handle the truth.
THE TRUTH WE CAN HANDLE. IT'S YOUR BS NO ONE CAN HANDLE.
• SO PITIFUL AND SO UGLY.• NASTY SWINDLE YOU GOT GOING HERE •
Les

Warren, MI

#15777 Jul 22, 2013
Helen Dagner wrote:
<quoted text>Back at you fool--You do not even have any dialoged skills--Or you would not say all the nasty untrue things you do about me-lets face it Les-you really do not know that everyone who is posting -agrees with me...and you do not know this because you are a psychopath-as for your not paying your bills-I could care less--but when you start offering other peoples bodies,in exchange for someone borrowing you money to pay them--do you know what that makes you...a Human Trafficker-a scum bag by anyone's standards-so now do you want to still talk about what a great intelligent guy you are?? As I have plenty more here about you that I don't mind sharing...
Like many other people, I have fixed many men and women with each other. What they do between them in private is no business of mine and I have never been paid for sexual favors between anyone. I have paid for sex myself but never recieved money for sex. I asked Kevin to pay a phone bill for me after my van went down and jokingly asked him if he wanted a date with a cute girl. Again you are more interested in destroying me than solving this case. Mostly because you have zero chance of being proved right about this case and I am the best shot at proving you wrong. Helen what other purpose is there for bringing me down? Just evil pleasure. You failed to shut me up by conspiring to convince people I f*cked my own children so your going to try something different.Your hope is that you can eliminate a threat to your self percieved "winner of the OCCK contest". You certainly don't value the foot that's not in the grave. Helen you drove your husband to suicide after he realized disgusting woman he married. You are a convicted con woman criminal. Just keep up your evil charade and Hell will welcome you with open arms.
Les

Warren, MI

#15779 Jul 23, 2013
Helen Dagner wrote:
<quoted text>Your a dreamer Les,didn't happen!
Dig faster, dig harder. This is the first time you had an enemy make it to the Grand Jury. You have a lot of covering up to do.
Reasoning

Utica, MI

#15780 Jul 23, 2013
Les wrote:
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Dig faster, dig harder. This is the first time you had an enemy make it to the Grand Jury. You have a lot of covering up to do.
Your inaccurate perceptions of Ursuala is perhaps your perception of the Grand Jury as well. While you thought you impressed the jury with your exagerrated fantasy and enormous ego. The truth may be that as soon as you walked out they discussed it and concluded that you couldn't tell the truth on something if it came along and bit you in the ass. Wheather you were included in the grand jury or not, who cares? There is no one to back up your claim. Until there is an actual news event that backs up your story, it don't mean jack shit! Only an idiot toots their horn when there is nothing to toot.
Les

Warren, MI

#15781 Jul 23, 2013
Reasoning wrote:
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Your inaccurate perceptions of Ursuala is perhaps your perception of the Grand Jury as well. While you thought you impressed the jury with your exagerrated fantasy and enormous ego. The truth may be that as soon as you walked out they discussed it and concluded that you couldn't tell the truth on something if it came along and bit you in the ass. Wheather you were included in the grand jury or not, who cares? There is no one to back up your claim. Until there is an actual news event that backs up your story, it don't mean jack shit! Only an idiot toots their horn when there is nothing to toot.
Dig faster, dig harder. This is the first time you had an enemy make it to the Grand Jury. You have a lot of covering up to do.
Helen Dagner

Petoskey, MI

#15782 Jul 23, 2013
Reasoning wrote:
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Your inaccurate perceptions of Ursuala is perhaps your perception of the Grand Jury as well. While you thought you impressed the jury with your exagerrated fantasy and enormous ego. The truth may be that as soon as you walked out they discussed it and concluded that you couldn't tell the truth on something if it came along and bit you in the ass. Wheather you were included in the grand jury or not, who cares? There is no one to back up your claim. Until there is an actual news event that backs up your story, it don't mean jack shit! Only an idiot toots their horn when there is nothing to toot.
Hey Reasoning-Have you ever heard of anyone who has been to the Grand Jury,continually brag about it?? I think maybe Les was mistaken and he was at his psychiatric review board monthly evaluation--anyway,did you know we had any enemies connected with the Occk cases? I thought this was about four children that were murder and the case remains unsolved,Didn't you?
Reasoning

Utica, MI

#15783 Jul 23, 2013
Helen Dagner wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Reasoning-Have you ever heard of anyone who has been to the Grand Jury,continually brag about it?? I think maybe Les was mistaken and he was at his psychiatric review board monthly evaluation-
Yes and maybe one of his doctors looks like Keven Dietz a little bit and the other looks like Scott Lewis and that is where this famous TV media meeting took place. Why would anyone want to brag about that either when nothing became of it? Most people would want to crawl under a rock about now but not Les. Only a fool makes an announcement that he is a fool before he's proven to be one. Lester the Jester continues to entertain the crowd here at Topix.
Les Got the Beat

Warren, MI

#15784 Jul 23, 2013
Helen Dagner wrote:
<quoted text> I thought this was about four children that were murder and the case remains unsolved,Didn't you?
Good point. But according to you this is the right place to report that Les f*cked his own children and pimps out other human beings.
Reasoning

Utica, MI

#15785 Jul 23, 2013
Les Got the Beat wrote:
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Good point. But according to you this is the right place to report that Les f*cked his own children and pimps out other human beings.
You kind of started the whole thing with your loooonnnngggg autobiography that had to have all the details of your sex life including your 6th grade teacher. It was so important for the OCCK audience here to know all of this from you personally. Kind of opens the doors to anything.
Les

Warren, MI

#15786 Jul 23, 2013
Reasoning wrote:
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You kind of started the whole thing with your loooonnnngggg autobiography that had to have all the details of your sex life including your 6th grade teacher. It was so important for the OCCK audience here to know all of this from you personally. Kind of opens the doors to anything.
You haven't taken your research back far enough. What came first- the chicken or the egg?

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#15787 Jul 23, 2013
Reasoning wrote:
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Yes and maybe one of his doctors looks like Keven Dietz a little bit and the other looks like Scott Lewis and that is where this famous TV media meeting took place. Why would anyone want to brag about that either when nothing became of it? Most people would want to crawl under a rock about now but not Les. Only a fool makes an announcement that he is a fool before he's proven to be one. Lester the Jester continues to entertain the crowd here at Topix.
He pestered the real Kevin Dietz so much he literally drove him to drink! As soon as KD returned to work he finally gave Les the heave-ho. Now KD has to go to AA and talk about the elephant in the room, poor guy; he should come here--we can sure help him with that!
Reasoning

Utica, MI

#15788 Jul 23, 2013
Les wrote:
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You haven't taken your research back far enough. What came first- the chicken or the egg?
Your sex chapters were published on here long before Lilly came to attack you. That was how it all got started. So what does your research say? or can you explain simple logic with a series of events?
Reasoning

Utica, MI

#15790 Jul 23, 2013
Ursula- wrote:
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He pestered the real Kevin Dietz so much he literally drove him to drink! As soon as KD returned to work he finally gave Les the heave-ho. Now KD has to go to AA and talk about the elephant in the room, poor guy; he should come here--we can sure help him with that!
Funny stuff. Dietz was the one that covered Terri on the Gunnels thing. I can picture him talking to her in front of her computer at her house. Just a little KDOG history.

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