The Oakland County Child Killer
Punky Brewster

Bakersfield, CA

#13939 Dec 19, 2012
Helen Dagner wrote:
Cody is on this site under the name Interested in Royal Oak-She is Terrie*-Lilly knows a lot about Starchild- and there are a few others that can discuss this with you-I can not-because I know nothing about these people-In my research on them-I found nothing to connect them to the Occk-so I quit doing research on them-You ride in here on your Black Horse Gun's a Blazing-and you expect everyone to drop everything-I think it is you that needs to adjust your attitude-In stead of picking at my bones-why not do what you came here to do-ask your questions-you may get the answers your looking for-but quit playing the victim and sticking your nose in-where it doesn't belong-you know nothing about me-so why are you trying to hand out all your advice?
I never targeted you for anything though. I was answering questions that Ursula asked me, then you accuse me of just talking about myself and desecrating the memory of those dead children, and then imply I'm gay, and that I'm just some sicko getting my rocks off. I'm not expecting anyone to drop anything, sorry if you got that impression. I don't see anyone with anything to drop, though. No one has anything to say. Its just a bunch of infighting. God forbid I try to have intelligent conversation in the midst of it all.

At the end of the day, this is an internet forum. Its not even a forum, its just one thread on a forum. This is the internet. This is what the internet is like. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes here. I've spent most of my time here trying to grill Les. You should be down with that.
Punky Brewster

Bakersfield, CA

#13940 Dec 19, 2012
Helen Dagner wrote:
This is Lilly's book-You can look up more on your own research at Amazon---or Cww or Terrie can fill you in------Portraits in the Snow: The Oakland County Child Killings...Scandals and Small Conspiracies [M F Cribari] on Amazon.com .
I didn't realize Terri actually wrote that book. That's quite interesting

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#13943 Dec 19, 2012
Terri did not write that book. MF Cribari wrote Portraits. Terri is not an author.
Les the Master of Honesty

Warren, MI

#13944 Dec 19, 2012
Punky Brewster wrote:
Hey, Les, another question for you. What is your take on why LE hasn't done anything about your suspect? I know everyone seems to talk about a conspiracy. Are you one of the conspiracy guys, or do you have a different take? To give credit where credit is due, I think Helen's explanation of the "conspiracy" was pretty good, seems like the most realistic answer.
Who is Kim?
I guess if your really are new I will answer your question. My suspect has been investigated and it has been determined in my presence that they feel he is the OCCK. Now they not allowed to pursue a dead man. They have asked me several times to confess my participation in these crimes. They are either holding out for my confession or they don't want it made public what they have discovered. I always felt it was a ego thing but now they have victims families lined up to sue them. Closure to this case will open flood gates to law suits because it can be proven they took way to long to get where they are. I also agree with much of what Helen said but obviously she wants people to believe it is her suspect that LE is afraid of getting sued or embarrassed over. Ursula knows that I am a major focus of the investigation. She knows that with utmost certainty. Funny but Helen knew it before I did.
Helen is just gaining confidence now because it is going on a year that LE has known who the killer is and are showing signs that they don't want their discoveries made public.

Kim is Eminem's ex wife. Her twin lived with me until I asked her to move a few days ago so I could help out a different friend and her baby.
Les the Humble One

Warren, MI

#13948 Dec 19, 2012
Helen Dagner wrote:
The following was posted by Cathy at Topix today-It seems that every time I read the documents provided in the FOIA case against the MSP, there is more and more to look carefully at.
Supplemental incident report dated December 21, 2009:
12-18-09, D/Sgt. Gray: Left a voice mail for [John Hastings--this is redacted, but come on, this isn't brain surgery] at 1:15 p.m. Asked for the undersigned to call on Monday 12-21-09, at his convenience.
Call to Steve Duncan, Georgia Highway Patrol polygrapher who examined [John Hastings]. Has not heard back from [John] since his tx regarding reading the book given to him by Dagner, Wolf in Sheeps clothing.
[John] advised that he had recently changed jobs, however he's still working as a limo driver in the greater Atlanta, Georgia area. John [NOT REDACTED, thank you very much] was advised that it has been a long time since we've spoken and haven't spoken since [redacted for a few lines].[John] did qualify this statement by saying he read the book that was given to him by Helen Dagner, "Wolf in Sheeps Cothing," [redacted, redacted][John] stated "I don't know how it came to this point because I had nothing to do with this case at all." [John] mumbled throughout the conversations, but this seems to be his speaking style.[John] adamantly denied any involvement with the case and added it may have been from his numerous contacts with Helen Dagner and his fixation with this investigation.
Due to not wanting to upset [John] by questioning him further in an accusatory manner, AND AFTER REALIZING STEVE DUNCAN'S POLYGRAPH WITH HIM AND HIS WALKING OUT OF THE EXAM VERY UPSET [emphasis added], the undersigned decided not to attack him further but to soften the process."
continued ...I have Hundreds of Documents on John and Chris,and I have no intention of trying to put them on this site-just wanted to show Les,what type of documents would be except-able-If he has any ...
Helen, that is the most compelling evidence I have ever seen.
Why do you think they haven't they arrested John?
Les the Humble One

Warren, MI

#13949 Dec 19, 2012
I notice Helen when Lilly types a long scathing message to/about me you post it over and over. That and many of your other posts contradicts you saying you have no feelings toward me or waste any time thinking about me.

I love your bold put all of your eggs in one basket statement that out of 10,000 suspects Punky is the last on the list. You use the word investigate interchangably with research as if you are a detective and have forensics tools. Plain and simple Helen, you are making a total ass out of yourself trying to pretend you are the star of Murder She Wrote.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#13952 Dec 19, 2012
Wrong person goof ball !
Why are there so many name changes on here ?
Don't you have to sign in as someone once you register an account ? I know you can put any name in before you register ?
I followed Less here from a couple of spots.
I had read here before. Even posted a few times. But it was a long time ago.
There's new names but I'm guessing some are the same. Less didn't post here then ? Or it was under a different name. The only two I recognise is Helen and Detroit.
Have fun kiddies !
Punky Brewster

Bakersfield, CA

#13953 Dec 19, 2012
Helen Dagner wrote:
<quoted text>TERRI Did not write the book!!!! She gave Lilly Info to help her-But Lilly did the research-Go back and read that-I'm sure I wrote that so even you could understand it-and I posted the amazon info-did you read that? You asked about Cody-and I was just telling you that her name was Terri-and right now she is using interested in Royal Oak and is on this forum--Is it time for your Meds?
Jeez, sorry I mixed the names up. I'm obviously an imbecile who needs to be belittled every second.
Punky Brewster

Bakersfield, CA

#13954 Dec 19, 2012
Les the Master of Honesty wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess if your really are new I will answer your question.
Do you guys really think I am an old poster come back? How many people involved with the OCCK community have been from California?
Les the Super Nice Guy

Warren, MI

#13956 Dec 20, 2012
Punky Brewster wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you guys really think I am an old poster come back? How many people involved with the OCCK community have been from California?
Several months back I got an email from a poster out of state that asked me a series of questions. He forwarded my answers to a victim family member but accidently CCed me. He never realized it until I asked him about it a few weeks later. He gave me a lame excuse. I get people emailing me all the time and trying to get to another level with me. I always answer their questions as if they are being forward to someone that is out for my hide. I am such a nice guy I can't imagine why anyone wants my hide. It's probably just my imagination that Helen and Lilly are out to destroy me. They are such sweet old ladies. Damn I am so paranoid I should get over it.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#13957 Dec 20, 2012
Les the Super Nice Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Several months back I got an email from a poster out of state that asked me a series of questions. He forwarded my answers to a victim family member but accidently CCed me. He never realized it until I asked him about it a few weeks later. He gave me a lame excuse. I get people emailing me all the time and trying to get to another level with me. I always answer their questions as if they are being forward to someone that is out for my hide. I am such a nice guy I can't imagine why anyone wants my hide. It's probably just my imagination that Helen and Lilly are out to destroy me. They are such sweet old ladies. Damn I am so paranoid I should get over it.
Your ego is massive, Les. Do you really think anyone wants to expend energy on destroying you? Is is really about you? Last I checked, this thread was about the OCCK, yet you keep trying to draw the attention your way. You need some serious therapy.
Les the Master of Honesty

Warren, MI

#13958 Dec 20, 2012
CasObs wrote:
<quoted text>Your ego is massive, Les. Do you really think anyone wants to expend energy on destroying you? Is is really about you? Last I checked, this thread was about the OCCK, yet you keep trying to draw the attention your way. You need some serious therapy.
What does ego have to do with the fact that I saw Polaroids of 5 victims individually in the same room? What I saw descibes an angle about this case never before mentioned in public and only shared with the top investigator.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#13959 Dec 20, 2012
And again. . .it's about you. What YOU saw, how YOU are being ignored. And when you don't get the attention you seek, you go into a Les story having nothing to do with the OCCK. If you did indeed, see polaroids of 5 victims, then you have been a party to obstructing justice. You are pure scum. Every time I dare wander back to this cesspool, you are floating along with the rest of the fecal matter. I am sick of the Les show, it stinks.
Les the Master of Honesty

Warren, MI

#13960 Dec 20, 2012
CasObs wrote:
And again...it's about you. What YOU saw, how YOU are being ignored. And when you don't get the attention you seek, you go into a Les story having nothing to do with the OCCK. If you did indeed, see polaroids of 5 victims, then you have been a party to obstructing justice. You are pure scum. Every time I dare wander back to this cesspool, you are floating along with the rest of the fecal matter. I am sick of the Les show, it stinks.
We gotta really big shew for you tonight folks. I am sitting here with Kim waiting so I decided to check the message board to see how many people have slandered me today.

I believe that you are the same person that at one time posted that you agreed that if Punky is the OCCK you would rather see the case go unsolved. That's pretty scummy. Get over it. I am telling the truth and the truth will prevail. Matter of fact it feels good sitting in the cat bird seat. Knowing everytime someone posts that they are right or they are wrong. Knowing everytime a new suspect hits the news the story will fizzle. There is only one truth

If I was asked one question on a polygraph and nothing else and the question was "Do you know who is the Oakland County Child Killer?"

and I responded yes and I passed the test that would historical. Some thing never before accomplished. I am sitting here feeling my muscles. My ego is raging.
Les the Entertainer

Warren, MI

#13961 Dec 20, 2012
We gotta really big shew for you tonight folks.
For you young folks, that is a quote from Ed Sullivan the night he introduced the Beatles to America.
Les the Godly One

Warren, MI

#13962 Dec 20, 2012
You guys remind me of the Taliban. Hey guys if we all attack we can get our forum back.
Punky Brewster

Bakersfield, CA

#13963 Dec 20, 2012
I feel like most people here have never seen this, but alas still take its message to heart...

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/...
Punky Brewster

Bakersfield, CA

#13964 Dec 20, 2012
Les the Super Nice Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Several months back I got an email from a poster out of state that asked me a series of questions. He forwarded my answers to a victim family member but accidently CCed me. He never realized it until I asked him about it a few weeks later. He gave me a lame excuse. I get people emailing me all the time and trying to get to another level with me. I always answer their questions as if they are being forward to someone that is out for my hide. I am such a nice guy I can't imagine why anyone wants my hide. It's probably just my imagination that Helen and Lilly are out to destroy me. They are such sweet old ladies. Damn I am so paranoid I should get over it.
None of them have been me, I assure you. I wouldn't mind emailing you questions though.

I just want to reiterate to everyone that I have no agenda here. I am not on anyone's "team," so to say. I am on team "I have no idea if anyone is telling the truth, I just hope that if anyone it is leads to this case being resolved."

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#13965 Dec 20, 2012
Remember, Commenters:

If I can read your comments, so can the Good Lord and Baby Jesus. All of your internet trails and data will follow you to the bowels of hell if you cannot remember that. In fact, it's probably being transmitted ahead of time, in "the cloud." So go about your business now and please don't be upset that the Good Lord prevailed upon me to bring you this message. I'm not judging any of you, Good Lord, no. That's for him to do once he sifts through your cache. I wouldn't want to bring up the pornographic material those Anonymous characters claim to have found on Black Gary's computer, that's just gossip. We wouldn't want our Good Lord and Baby Jesus to have to read about that...heavens no!

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#13966 Dec 20, 2012
Hey Less ? If a polygrapher asked Helen if she knew who the occk was and she said yes, she would pass it too.(Just using her as an example people)
I believe a few people could be asked and pass.
If you believe it's true you'll pass(like Helen).
If you're a psycopath you might pass (like you fake).
But, I DON'T believe you took one.
And if Punky was even a possible suspect, LE would have made me pull my profile pic.
5 pictures you say ? Don't believe you even a tiny bit.

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