witness says gary mcgreen killer

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Dan in Detroit

Brighton, MI

#1 Sep 20, 2006
Don`t know details yet. Someone in MN or MN prison naming Gary McGreen as serial killer. When I hear more I`ll tell you.
Artman

AOL

#2 Sep 20, 2006
Dan in Detroit wrote:
Don`t know details yet. Someone in MN or MN prison naming Gary McGreen as serial killer. When I hear more I`ll tell you.
But, does JB case fit any of his former MOs? I never thought of the JB killer being a big guy because always thought entered thru "the Smit window".
Dan in Detroit

United States

#3 Sep 21, 2006
Artman wrote:
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But, does JB case fit any of his former MOs? I never thought of the JB killer being a big guy because always thought entered thru "the Smit window".
All Oakland County Child Victims were REDRESSED just like Jonbenet. John Ramsey is a Big man. He says he came through that window 3 times. John weighs 200+#`s. The grate is at least 10-12" wide.Jonbenet was struck with 300# of force. Look at the autopsy photo of her skull. There`s a giant chunk broken out and an 8" crack. Believe me when cops get confirmation they`ll be checking out Gary. Rundel wouldn`t make this up. He ran the OCCK group and he`s involved with National Missing Exploited Children. Possibly this has something to do with information I left with police about probable location of Jacob Wetterling`s body as per Gary. All I know from Kevin is allegations are coming out of MN and probably through prison system.
Autumn

AOL

#4 Sep 21, 2006
Dan in Detroit wrote:
<quoted text>All Oakland County Child Victims were REDRESSED just like Jonbenet. John Ramsey is a Big man. He says he came through that window 3 times. John weighs 200+#`s. The grate is at least 10-12" wide.Jonbenet was struck with 300# of force. Look at the autopsy photo of her skull. There`s a giant chunk broken out and an 8" crack. Believe me when cops get confirmation they`ll be checking out Gary. Rundel wouldn`t make this up. He ran the OCCK group and he`s involved with National Missing Exploited Children. Possibly this has something to do with information I left with police about probable location of Jacob Wetterling`s body as per Gary. All I know from Kevin is allegations are coming out of MN and probably through prison system.
Dan please keep me posted on the Jacob Wetterling case... It is very important to me..... Can you tell me what Gary said about him???
Autumn

AOL

#5 Sep 21, 2006
For anyone who is not familiar with the case...
This is Jacob's story...

http://www.courttv.com/news/hiddentraces/wett...
Autumn

AOL

#6 Sep 21, 2006
I've always thought it was the creepy guy who lived in the house that Jacob was abducted in front of.... Did Gary tell you where he parked???
The tire tracks that were found at the scene have been identified as belonging to a guy who was 17 {at the time}and living only a few blocks away, when he heard the call to police over a scanner, he went to see what was going on.... He turned around in the driveway and left the scene before the police arrived.... He didn't see anything except the bikes laying in the ditch..... There isn't anywhere else to park around there that it wouldn't have been noticed You either walk down the road or across a big field.... Not very wise or discreet if you are trying to kidnap a child...

Why did Gary say he took Jacob???
Dan in Detroit

United States

#7 Sep 21, 2006
Autumn wrote:
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Dan please keep me posted on the Jacob Wetterling case... It is very important to me..... Can you tell me what Gary said about him???
Gary and his nothr were visiting sister in MN. Saw the boy and two other boys about 9pm. Gary put on mask and toy gun. Posing as robbers made all 3 lay down, looked at their faces, chose the one that he wanted, made other 2 run into woods. He`d have taken all 3 but he didn`t have his truck. Killed Jacob, drove slowly toward sisters house stopping 2 blocks from house. Took boy in woods. Anally molested dead body. Normally he waited longer for victims to shit pants fully and hear air release sound. Didn`t wait long enough because had to return to sisters, got boys shit on himself. Mother and relatives thought that he had diarrhea and mother needled him about drinking too much because of that for awhile. Covered boy with bushes. After he told me he asked me about it at a later date and I played stupid. Possibly he buried the body there later.
Dan in Detroit

United States

#8 Sep 21, 2006
Autumn wrote:
I've always thought it was the creepy guy who lived in the house that Jacob was abducted in front of.... Did Gary tell you where he parked???
The tire tracks that were found at the scene have been identified as belonging to a guy who was 17 {at the time}and living only a few blocks away, when he heard the call to police over a scanner, he went to see what was going on.... He turned around in the driveway and left the scene before the police arrived.... He didn't see anything except the bikes laying in the ditch..... There isn't anywhere else to park around there that it wouldn't have been noticed You either walk down the road or across a big field.... Not very wise or discreet if you are trying to kidnap a child...
Why did Gary say he took Jacob???
Gary`s not discreet. He`s bold and brazen. Why? Anal sex. Like I said though, I have no information yet, possibly for days as to what the info is. Kevin works and has kids and doesn`t have much time for emails and he doesn`t know full facts yet. I just know that I sent police in MN a letter about Wetterling about a month or 2 ago. Maybe his sister snitched him off when police questioned her. She lives 10 miles from abduction spot.
JMK

United States

#9 Oct 14, 2006
Dan in Detroit wrote:
<quoted text>Gary`s not discreet. He`s bold and brazen. Why? Anal sex. Like I said though, I have no information yet, possibly for days as to what the info is. Kevin works and has kids and doesn`t have much time for emails and he doesn`t know full facts yet. I just know that I sent police in MN a letter about Wetterling about a month or 2 ago. Maybe his sister snitched him off when police questioned her. She lives 10 miles from abduction spot.
Gary Green posted on the Helen Dagner Oakland County Killer site. Is that the same person?
damon

Brainerd, MN

#10 Oct 26, 2006
Dan in Detroit wrote:
<quoted text>Gary and his nothr were visiting sister in MN. Saw the boy and two other boys about 9pm. Gary put on mask and toy gun. Posing as robbers made all 3 lay down, looked at their faces, chose the one that he wanted, made other 2 run into woods. He`d have taken all 3 but he didn`t have his truck. Killed Jacob, drove slowly toward sisters house stopping 2 blocks from house. Took boy in woods. Anally molested dead body. Normally he waited longer for victims to shit pants fully and hear air release sound. Didn`t wait long enough because had to return to sisters, got boys shit on himself. Mother and relatives thought that he had diarrhea and mother needled him about drinking too much because of that for awhile. Covered boy with bushes. After he told me he asked me about it at a later date and I played stupid. Possibly he buried the body there later.
Who is Garys sister and where in Mn does she live?
Detroit Breakdown

United States

#11 Oct 26, 2006
damon wrote:
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Who is Garys sister and where in Mn does she live?
Naturally I can`t post her name. She lives 10 miles from where Gary grabbed Jacob Wetterling.
joejam

AOL

#12 Oct 26, 2006
sometimes .... I think he is the killer. Does anyone out there agree? it is not too far fetched.
Victory

United States

#13 Oct 26, 2006
joejam wrote:
sometimes .... I think he is the killer. Does anyone out there agree? it is not too far fetched.
You mean Gary? Yea, sounds like he is BAD...can't believe the law has not questioned him about some these murders...sounds like Dan knows so much about these that he would be taken seriously by law enforcement.
joejam

AOL

#14 Oct 26, 2006
No kidding. How do we get it investigated? How does Lou Smit have any pull if he is retired? who will listen? there has to be someone that is honest and still in search of truth and justice and the American way...(yeah right) I know I'm being caddy...sorry. But the corruption I have noticed in the past few years has me doubting. and i mean with many things, other than the murder of jonbenet.
Victory

United States

#15 Oct 26, 2006
joejam wrote:
No kidding. How do we get it investigated? How does Lou Smit have any pull if he is retired? who will listen? there has to be someone that is honest and still in search of truth and justice and the American way...(yeah right) I know I'm being caddy...sorry. But the corruption I have noticed in the past few years has me doubting. and i mean with many things, other than the murder of jonbenet.
I believe Detroit has informed LE. Also, Detroit DNA has been tested? He has sent Smit and DA information. If all of this is true, then I guess there is nothing else we can do.....??
Detroit Breakdown

United States

#16 Oct 26, 2006
Victory wrote:
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I believe Detroit has informed LE. Also, Detroit DNA has been tested? He has sent Smit and DA information. If all of this is true, then I guess there is nothing else we can do.....??
The part about sending it to the prosecutor is not entirely true. Some time ago I sent a letter to Bennett, Lacy`s assistant. At that time I hadn`t seen the Dateline special or read the ransom note. After reading the note and seeing the special I realize that when I thought Gary was threatening me that really he was talking about the ransom note. He said Dirty Harry, Nick of Time remember Mick(morgan Nick that he killed 1995), speed, ruthless people, S.B.T.C. SO BETTER TAKE CARE, seven. I thought that he was threatening me. Then before he left he said what`s victory. I said Victory in Jesus my saviour forever. He said are you sure it`s not- and pointed at his hand. Now I realize that he was referring to handa, the boy that he kidnapped and left the ransom note for in CAL. Then there`s the Dirty Harry Zodiac killer part. All the MI kids were killed the same Holidays as Jonbent and Helgoth killed. New Years & St, Pats. I`ve never sent a letter to Mary Lacy and none of what I just mentioned otr that Gary said that he broke in again has been told to the prosecutor. My daughter accidentally deleted it and I`m rewriting it. I`ve learned that I must take my time and write it and make sure nothing`s missing.It`s written, but I`m double checking now. O.K.
Victory

United States

#17 Oct 26, 2006
Detroit Breakdown wrote:
<quoted text>The part about sending it to the prosecutor is not entirely true. Some time ago I sent a letter to Bennett, Lacy`s assistant. At that time I hadn`t seen the Dateline special or read the ransom note. After reading the note and seeing the special I realize that when I thought Gary was threatening me that really he was talking about the ransom note. He said Dirty Harry, Nick of Time remember Mick(morgan Nick that he killed 1995), speed, ruthless people, S.B.T.C. SO BETTER TAKE CARE, seven. I thought that he was threatening me. Then before he left he said what`s victory. I said Victory in Jesus my saviour forever. He said are you sure it`s not- and pointed at his hand. Now I realize that he was referring to handa, the boy that he kidnapped and left the ransom note for in CAL. Then there`s the Dirty Harry Zodiac killer part. All the MI kids were killed the same Holidays as Jonbent and Helgoth killed. New Years & St, Pats. I`ve never sent a letter to Mary Lacy and none of what I just mentioned otr that Gary said that he broke in again has been told to the prosecutor. My daughter accidentally deleted it and I`m rewriting it. I`ve learned that I must take my time and write it and make sure nothing`s missing.It`s written, but I`m double checking now. O.K.
Detroit,
As you are writing the info. can you draw up a time line and number it 1, 2, 3, and so on..? That would make it easier to read and understand. Thanks.
damon

Brainerd, MN

#18 Oct 26, 2006
Detroit Breakdown wrote:
<quoted text>Naturally I can`t post her name. She lives 10 miles from where Gary grabbed Jacob Wetterling.
understandable.... not really interested in her as in the location of Jacob....
damon

Brainerd, MN

#19 Oct 26, 2006
damon wrote:
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understandable.... not really interested in her as in the location of Jacob....
10 miles north.. south .. east .. or west from where Gary grab Jacob?
Detroit Breakdown

United States

#20 Oct 26, 2006
damon wrote:
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understandable.... not really interested in her as in the location of Jacob....
Have you heard of a place called Circle Pines ?

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