Fleet White depo article

[fr brown]

candy wrote:

Neither Fleet White, nor anyone else, gets to pick who they want to cooperate with in a criminal case. White's non-cooperation with the BPD in the Ramsey case, almost got him charged with obstruction of Justice:
ST hardback, p. 264
"They didn't like him at all Mark, and they aren't going to cooperate without a special prosecutor," I said.
"Well screw them. Let's just write them off, Beckner fumed. He held a thumb and forefinger close together. "The Whites are about that far away from an obstruction of justice charge."
White's memory loss is as hinky as can be, and I can only imagine what Boulderites would have thought about it, that know him and what he's told them about the case, if they ever get to read it.
WHY were Thomas AND White so bent on getting out of testifying in the Miller case? The one where BOTH of them would have been asked about their knowledge of and possession of the ransom note, and if they leaked it into the public domain?

Well, good for him. Fleet White's my kind of guy. White should've punched John Ramsey's lights out. Hunter's too.

Once the Ramseys had possession of a copy of the ransom note, there was no reason to keep it from anyone else. My impression is that the Ramsey side leaked the note, but I'm not interested enough to check it out.

[fr brown]

candy wrote:

Thomas made up his own LIES as well, such as the non existent fight between Ramsey and White in Atlanta, which both denied under oath every happened.

Thomas says that both Whites said that nothing much happened. He also says that John tried to calm everybody down saying that Fleet was his friend and wouldn't hurt anybody.

You should really pick up a copy of _JonBenet_.

[WV Sleuth]

I believe Candy probably was so pizzed at Steve for snubbing HER, that she probably went around to every retail establishment within 200 miles and bought up all the copies of that book and burned them..

[CSIEngland]

WV Sleuth wrote:

I believe Candy probably was so pizzed at Steve for snubbing HER, that she probably went around to every retail establishment within 200 miles and bought up all the copies of that book and burned them..

Inadvertently bumping up Steve's sales figures. LOL

[Legal_Eagle]

WV Sleuth wrote:

I believe Candy probably was so pizzed at Steve for snubbing HER, that she probably went around to every retail establishment within 200 miles and bought up all the copies of that book and burned them..

LMAO, and yet she continue the myth by saying he called her a few days ago and SHE REFUSED to pick up! Candy is the brunt of one heck of a hoax - it is like watching a train wreck - you know you shouldn't look, but you just can't help it!

[candy]

Quote: "Once the Ramseys had possession of a copy of the ransom note, there was no reason to keep it from anyone else. My impression is that the Ramsey side leaked the note, but I'm not interested enough to check it out."

It came out in his depo that Thomas illegally leaked the note to Vanity Fair. This was an open secret, with Arndt saying in her depo that she believed he was the main leaker for Bardach, etc.
The ransom note is case file evidence that was NOT permitted to be used by ANYONE. The entire Miller trial was about who leaked the ransom note, because if they note was ILLEGALLY leaked into the public domain, it is public domain material, and trying to obtain a copy is NOT A CRIME when it has been leaked.

In the Miller trial transcript (which I believe only Henri and I bothered to read, the gutter for sure does not want to know the truth about that case), The Ramseys PI ASKED PERMISSION of Tom Wickman to publish the ransom note. Wickman said NO, they could not publish or use the ransom note, they had an agreement with their attorneys NOT to give them that case file info. Thomas went ahead, over an agreed upon deal NOT to give the Ramseys the note, and ILLEGALLY leaked it to Ann Bardach, who put the note, word for word, in her Vanity Fair article.

Here is the info from the Miller trial:

Ellis Armistead, Ramsey PI, asked BPD in August, 1997 for permission to publish the ransom note. Sgt. Wickman, ST's boss, at BPD said " No, you can't do that. We have an agreement where you won't publish it."

[fr brown]

candy wrote:

Quote: "Once the Ramseys had possession of a copy of the ransom note, there was no reason to keep it from anyone else. My impression is that the Ramsey side leaked the note, but I'm not interested enough to check it out."
It came out in his depo that Thomas illegally leaked the note to Vanity Fair. This was an open secret, with Arndt saying in her depo that she believed he was the main leaker for Bardach, etc.
The ransom note is case file evidence that was NOT permitted to be used by ANYONE.

"Detective Arndt too the handwriting samples from John, Patsy, and Burke, and when a private investigator asked for copies, she gave them to him....All that information was evidence and should not have been handed over. But the handwriting and the ransom note were mere drops in the bucket." p. 62,_JonBenet_, paperback

[candy]

For fr brown,

With all due respect to you for quoting a source, unfortunately, Thomas "wasn't served" so he UNFORTUNATELY "missed" the Miller trial, which was all about the ransom note, and he could have said all this under oath. As it is, it is from a book he spent NO TIME defending and paid out via his publisher to the Ramseys on. Therefore, unless it's quoted by someone else NOT HIM, I find it hard to believe. Again, the Miller trial was all about the ransom note, and there was NONE of this information in it, just that the police had a deal with the Ramseys NOT to publish the note. Like Judge Carnes, I'm only interested in the language of his settlement deal with the Ramseys personally.

Also, luckily for his buddies the Ramseys, it seems whenever poor Fleet actually remembered something to testify about under oath, it was FAVORABLE or VERY FAVORABLE to the Ramseys, as Lin Wood said.

[fr brown]

candy wrote:

For fr brown,
With all due respect to you for quoting a source, unfortunately, Thomas "wasn't served" so he UNFORTUNATELY "missed" the Miller trial, which was all about the ransom note, and he could have said all this under oath. As it is, it is from a book he spent NO TIME defending and paid out via his publisher to the Ramseys on. Therefore, unless it's quoted by someone else NOT HIM, I find it hard to believe. Again, the Miller trial was all about the ransom note, and there was NONE of this information in it, just that the police had a deal with the Ramseys NOT to publish the note. Like Judge Carnes, I'm only interested in the language of his settlement deal with the Ramseys personally.
Also, luckily for his buddies the Ramseys, it seems whenever poor Fleet actually remembered something to testify about under oath, it was FAVORABLE or VERY FAVORABLE to the Ramseys, as Lin Wood said.

Well, I'm not sure I follow all that, but if you think I'm saying that Arndt leaked the note to VF, I'm not. Thomas says she handed over a first-generation copy to the Ramsey investigators, that's all. I don't think she did this off her own bat; I'm sure that she was told to hand it over as part of the DA's policy of making nice with the Ramseys.

The prime suspects then had a copy of the note to study and evaluate for handwriting and content. Given that, perhaps it's not such a terrible thing for Ann Bardach to have it too.

[candy]

Correction, in my last post I meant to say Thomas giving Ann Bardach a copy, not Thomas giving Arndt a copy.

[koldkase]

candy wrote:

Quote:[snip]
In the Miller trial transcript (which I believe only Henri and I bothered to read, the gutter for sure does not want to know the truth about that case),[snip]

Well now, you're a little liar, aren't you? I think your gutterness is shining through here. Not only did I read it, I posted an entire, long thread on it at FFJ as I went. A thread about which you made some snide criticism (of course) at one time.

I forgive your bad memory, though. Your hideously ugly nature, not so much....