There IS milk/cream in the bowl

There IS milk/cream in the bowl

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BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#2 Aug 5, 2013
"Sandy Stranger had a feeling at the time that they were supposed to be the happiest days of her life, and on her tenth birthday she said so to her best friend Jenny Gray who had been asked to TEA at Sandy's house. The speciality of the feast was PINEAPPLE CUBES WITH CREAM, and the speciality of the day was that they were left to themselves. To Sandy the unfamiliar PINEAPPLE had the authentic taste and appearance of happiness and she focussed her small eyes closely on the pale gold cubes before she scooped them up in her SPOON, and she ... Both girls saved the CREAM to the last, then ate it in SPOONFULS."

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#3 Aug 5, 2013
Patsy fed JonBenet happiness and then killed her.

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#6 Aug 8, 2013
20 you know for sure? I said I know we
21 didn't feed her pineapple. I know I
22 didn't feed her pineapple, I know Patsy
23 didn't feed her pineapple, because she
24 said she didn't.

Because she said she didn't. Right.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#7 Aug 8, 2013
She could have fed it to herself. There were people/volunteers cleaning up the kitchen from Christmas breakfast the morning Jonbenet was 'missing'.

Nobody wants to believe there was a dairy product eaten with the pineapple. It throws the digestion timeline off to it being eaten much earlier in the afternoon, within the realm of possibility.

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#8 Aug 8, 2013
Not likely.

And no it doesn't.
passion

Witham, UK

#9 Aug 8, 2013
according to kolar last Sunday on Tricia there was no milk with the pineapple on bowl .and no drug was detected in jonbenet system as well .

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#10 Aug 8, 2013
passion wrote:
according to kolar last Sunday on Tricia there was no milk with the pineapple on bowl .
Not true. He said he didn't know of any milk or cream. Pay attention and don't post mistruths.

“If life gives you melons”

Since: Nov 06

You might be dyslexic

#11 Aug 8, 2013
BrotherMoon wrote:
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Not true. He said he didn't know of any milk or cream. Pay attention and don't post mistruths.
Aren't you posting a mistruth saying there was milk? I think so!

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#12 Aug 8, 2013
You theory depends on such avoidance. Mine depends on evidence. See post #1 above.
passion

Marrakech, Morocco

#13 Aug 12, 2013
i didn't mean that brother moon , i thought i heard him say that that in his own word it was on its own that's why i posted it.it was not intentional.

“If life gives you melons”

Since: Nov 06

You might be dyslexic

#15 Aug 13, 2013
BrotherMoon wrote:
You theory depends on such avoidance. Mine depends on evidence. See post #1 above.
You have no evidence whatsoever that milk was in the bowl. If you do please share it. It is your theory, that's all, not evidence.
BrotherMoon

Arvada, CO

#16 Aug 13, 2013
The problem for people like you is there is a bottom line, absolute truth, touchstone that can be consulted in all disputes: nature, the hard facts of nature. That is what the practicers of the scientific method rely on.

I offer the above link to the crime scene photo that shows the contents of the bowl. That reproduction exists, logically the original exists as well. It is also a fact that a transcript exists where Smit showed John that photo and John says it looks like milk.

Those are facts. Whether they are accepted depends on the person observing the facts.

As a 103 year old man in New Orleans said when interviewed about the changes he had seen in his life, when the first manned mission to the moon was launched he said "An't no one goin' to no moon
!" He said that as he watched the launch on tv.

“WAX ON”

Since: Jul 10

WAX OFF

#17 Aug 13, 2013
Why is that a problem for me? I donít know if there was milk in the bowl or whether it was a poor quality flash photo Ė and neither do you. That is the only point I am trying to make BM. You swear it is one way and I am saying I have not seen proof of the absolute truth (to use your words). But neither have you.
BrotherMoon wrote:
The problem for people like you is there is a bottom line, absolute truth, touchstone that can be consulted in all disputes: nature, the hard facts of nature. That is what the practicers of the scientific method rely on.
I do not dispute the transcript for I have read it. I dispute your taking Johnís words as fact, when clearly he was only guessing as well. And then he went on to say he canít imagine the kids would have something like that. Then he goes even further and says the bowl COULD be one of their bowls, and the glass LOOKS like theirs and the spoon IS NOT A TEASPOON, more like a SERVING SPOON.(Funny how he went from teaspoon to serving spoon Ė he just zipped right on by Tablespoon or Soup spoon, didnít he?
BrotherMoon wrote:
I offer the above link to the crime scene photo that shows the contents of the bowl. That reproduction exists, logically the original exists as well. It is also a fact that a transcript exists where Smit showed John that photo and John says it looks like milk.
The fact is Ė there is a bowl of pineapple with a spoon in it. That is all we know as a fact! Or did you see the bowl in person? If so, mea culpa!
BrotherMoon wrote:
Those are facts. Whether they are accepted depends on the person observing the facts.
Say hi to your Great Grandpa for me! ;)
BrotherMoon wrote:
As a 103 year old man in New Orleans said when interviewed about the changes he had seen in his life, when the first manned mission to the moon was launched he said "An't no one goin' to no moon
!" He said that as he watched the launch on tv.
BrotherMoon

Arvada, CO

#18 Aug 13, 2013
My post above was a response to L_E's post above that Mr. paranoid.

If you would read without your glands you would see that I said the "absolute truth" is the existence of the crime scene photo and the transcript NOT the personal interpretations.

I see the white liquid, others see it including John Ramsey.

And if you attribute the appearance of the liquid to flash photography you are free to attmept to reproduce that with a similar bowl, spoon and pineapple. Go ahead, give it a try. That is called testing. It is part of a scientific approach. Others have said the liquid is due to decay of the juices. Again they are free to test that idea. I am all in favor of that.

“WAX ON”

Since: Jul 10

WAX OFF

#19 Aug 13, 2013
That is fine, it doesn't matter whi you were responding to. I was responding to you.

Don't get me wrong, BM, I applaud you have had this same theory for all these years and you have stuck to it no matter what. My only problem with your theory (and the theory of many others) is that it cannot be scientifically proven.

Yes, there is a crime scene photo. Who disputes that? NO ONE. What it depicts is what is up for dispute. That is the portion which has not been proven and is left to theory.

Yes, John did say that in a transcript. Who disputes that? NO ONE. But was he stating it as a fact or was he guessing? THAT is what cannot be proven. THAT is what is left up to interpretation.

I don't belive your theory has been scientifically proven, nor do I believe it can be. But it is your theory and you are entitled to it. What you are not entitled to do is twist it and state it as fact - when it is not.

See how easy it is to state a point without ranting and making slurs towards the other person's opinion? Try it some time! People will be more willing to discuss things with you on an adult level.
BrotherMoon wrote:
My post above was a response to L_E's post above that Mr. paranoid.
If you would read without your glands you would see that I said the "absolute truth" is the existence of the crime scene photo and the transcript NOT the personal interpretations.
I see the white liquid, others see it including John Ramsey.
And if you attribute the appearance of the liquid to flash photography you are free to attmept to reproduce that with a similar bowl, spoon and pineapple. Go ahead, give it a try. That is called testing. It is part of a scientific approach. Others have said the liquid is due to decay of the juices. Again they are free to test that idea. I am all in favor of that.
BrotherMoon

Arvada, CO

#20 Aug 13, 2013
You obviously are not on my level.

“If life gives you melons”

Since: Nov 06

You might be dyslexic

#21 Aug 13, 2013
BrotherMoon wrote:
The problem for people like you is there is a bottom line, absolute truth, touchstone that can be consulted in all disputes: nature, the hard facts of nature. That is what the practicers of the scientific method rely on.
I offer the above link to the crime scene photo that shows the contents of the bowl. That reproduction exists, logically the original exists as well. It is also a fact that a transcript exists where Smit showed John that photo and John says it looks like milk.
Those are facts. Whether they are accepted depends on the person observing the facts.
As a 103 year old man in New Orleans said when interviewed about the changes he had seen in his life, when the first manned mission to the moon was launched he said "An't no one goin' to no moon
!" He said that as he watched the launch on tv.
Transcripts exist where they say Burke was asleep too, and we know that wasn't true. Attempting to take the word of a person "under the umbrella" of suspicion and trying to make that a fact is pretty naive. Unfortunately the 'transcripts' in the case of the Ramseys are subjective. They said whatever they wanted to say at the time. If confronted with an inconsistency they either shrugged or got mad or Lin Wood would answer for them.

I think you want it to be milk so you are saying it is. It would have been nice if the police had taken it to the lab so we would know for sure, wouldn't it? Then that would be one more box we could check off.
BrotherMoon

Arvada, CO

#22 Aug 13, 2013
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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They said whatever they wanted to say at the time.
This is something that is very tough to deal with. I think it is too restrictive to write off the things they say completely by saying they lie. I think what they say should be examined and compared to known facts and known patterns and then looked at discriminatingly because where they lie and where they tell the truth is important in determinating what happened. This is a tough job and leads to many possibilities but that is what investigators do.

Every time I have had conversations with Boyles and bring up DOI he says that book is a lie. Well that ends the conversation.

It is much more enlightening to be able to discern the lies from the truth and half truths.

To make it more complicated I say John is self deluding and Patsy was dissociative. That makes "lying" relative to awareness based on restricted cognitive functions and not on attempts to decieve.
Steve Eller

Bronx, NY

#23 Aug 13, 2013
BrotherMoon wrote:
You obviously are not on my level.
Get over yourself you petulant fraud. What level would that be? The one in which Tricia basically almost hung up on you, when she realized it was you calling in to the show.
BrotherMoon

Arvada, CO

#24 Aug 13, 2013
You forgot the ? after show.

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