Jonbenet 'accidentally' what????

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#1 Feb 28, 2013
2 MIKE KANE: The autopsy report, have you
3 seen it?
4 JOHN RAMSEY: No.
5 MIKE KANE: You haven't seen it?
6 JOHN RAMSEY: No, I have not. I can't look at
7 that.
8 MIKE KANE: Okay. Have you discussed in general
9 what's in there, in general?
10 JOHN RAMSEY: Very little. It's hard to discuss
11 with her accidentally (INAUDIBLE).
12 MIKE KANE: What would that be?
candy

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#2 Feb 28, 2013
Good catch! Kane said in that article I re- posted a few weeks ago that he never believed the Scams told him the WHOLE story.

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#3 Mar 1, 2013
Fill in the blank, there aren't many options for what John Ramsey was thinking and almost said.

"with her accidentally" ________

-dying
-hitting her head

Too bad Kane didn;t follow up. A lot of the (INAUDIBLE) instances are where the Ramseys start to slip and catch themselves and quit talking.

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#4 Mar 1, 2013
Maybe John Ramsey meant to say Jonbenet was accidentally molested as he was carrying her upstairs his hand slipped through her pants.

Or

She was accidentally found with s cord around her neck because she was playing with the drapes?

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#5 Mar 1, 2013
Maybe Patsy tied Jonbenet to the toilet and she accidentally strangled herself.

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#6 Mar 1, 2013
Or Maybe Jonbenet accidentally stuck her head in the fridge and Burke slammed the door, crushing her skull.

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#7 Mar 1, 2013
Well, something happened 'accidentally' that necessitated Jonbenet be autopsied, and John Ramsey knows it.
candy

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#8 Mar 1, 2013
moonjack wrote:
Fill in the blank, there aren't many options for what John Ramsey was thinking and almost said.
"with her accidentally" ________
-dying
-hitting her head
Too bad Kane didn;t follow up. A lot of the (INAUDIBLE) instances are where the Ramseys start to slip and catch themselves and quit talking.
Kane DID follow up, Ramsey just didn't bother to answer. How could he?

Kane spent many hours questioning John and Patsy Ramsey about their daughter's murder. He said he believes they have yet to give him the straight story.

"When I met with them, I never felt that they were genuine," Kane said. "I always felt like I was talking to a press secretary who was giving responses with a spin.

"I always felt like their answers were very careful and, in some cases, scripted. And that caused me a lot of concern."

http://therocky.com/news/2001/dec/18/case-hau...
blackink

Russell, KY

#9 Mar 4, 2013
maybe jonbenet was playing in the dryer..

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#10 Mar 6, 2013
Dryer accidents are common and leave telltale injuries that would be obvious in an autopsy. Cats are expecially prone to dryer deaths.

"MIKE KANE: Okay. Have you discussed in general
what's in there, in general?
JOHN RAMSEY: Very little. It's hard to discuss
with her accidentally (INAUDIBLE)."

Timely comparison with the Duthchess of Cambridge getting tripped up and saying should would give a teddy bear she was handed to her d____.

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#13 Nov 2, 2013
With her accidentally getting hit on the head by Burke with a golf club?

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#14 Nov 2, 2013
I's time they used the aerospace technology on some of the inaudibles from the taped interviews. Just because the trancriptionist didn't or couldn't make it out doesn't mean it's lost forever.
Just Wondering

Beckley, WV

#16 Nov 2, 2013
It is possible John said "actually" instead of "accidentally". That would make sense. They should definitely have those tapes enhanced with the new technology. If he said "accidentally" it would appear that he incriminated himself.

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#17 Nov 3, 2013
Anything is possible JW but this is eerily familiar to John stating that he found the body at 11 AM

What makes it the more strange is that over the years, none of it was ever explained or corrected, which certainly would have been done, even if it was just spin so it makes you wonder about John's "slips"

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#18 Nov 5, 2013
I think several times throughout this investigation John has made what is called an "excited utterance", and your reference to the statement he made about finding the body was one of the huge ones, as well as the one to which you are referring here.

"An excited utterance, in the law of evidence, is a statement made by a person in response to a startling or shocking event or condition. It is an unplanned reaction to a "startling event". It is an exception to the hearsay rule."

"Under the Federal Rules of Evidence, an excited utterance is defined as a statement that concerns a startling event, made by the declarant when the declarant is still under stress from the startling event. An excited utterance is admissible under an exception to the hearsay rule."

"The statement must be spontaneously made by the person (the declarant) while still under the stress of excitement from the event or condition. The subject matter and content of the statement must "relate to" event or condition. The statement could be a description or explanation (as required for present sense impression), or an opinion or inference. Examples include: "Look out! We're going to crash!" or "I think he's crazy. He's shooting at us!" The basis for this hearsay exception is the belief that a statement made under the stress is likely to be trustworthy and unlikely to be premeditated falsehoods. Compared to present sense impression, excited utterance is broader in scope for permitting a longer time lapse between event and statement, and a wider range of content in the statement."

"Under the Federal Rules of Evidence, an excited utterance is a hearsay exception, and is admissible to prove the truth of the statement itself (e.g., in the case of the first quotation above, to prove that the vehicle the declarant was riding in was, in fact, about to crash). To prove the truth of the statement means to persuade the finder of fact to believe the affirmative sense of the statement. "Truth" here does not mean truth from the subjective point of view of the declarant or from the objective point of view of a reasonably prudent person. It simply refers to the affirmative assertion of the statement."

"Spontaneity of the declarant is a key to admissibility. An excited utterance does not have to be made at time of the startling event, but must be made while the declarant is still in a state of surprise or shock from the incident. The declarant's reflective powers must be stilled, meaning that, while making the statement, the declarant would not have had a chance to reflect upon the startling event, fabricate a purposefully false statement, and then say it. If the declarant is believed to have had time to reflect on the situation before making the statement, the statement would not be spontaneous and thus not an excited utterance. However, under certain circumstances, it is possible for days to have passed before the declarant fully reflects on the event, and "unstills" his or her reflective powers."
Capricorn wrote:
Anything is possible JW but this is eerily familiar to John stating that he found the body at 11 AM
What makes it the more strange is that over the years, none of it was ever explained or corrected, which certainly would have been done, even if it was just spin so it makes you wonder about John's "slips"
Maybe

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#19 Nov 5, 2013
moonjack wrote:
2 MIKE KANE: The autopsy report, have you
3 seen it?
4 JOHN RAMSEY: No.
5 MIKE KANE: You haven't seen it?
6 JOHN RAMSEY: No, I have not. I can't look at
7 that.
8 MIKE KANE: Okay. Have you discussed in general
9 what's in there, in general?
10 JOHN RAMSEY: Very little. It's hard to discuss
11 with her accidentally (INAUDIBLE).
12 MIKE KANE: What would that be?
What is the link to all of this?u

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#20 Nov 6, 2013
The link refers to Jonbenet's death being an unplannned event, AN ACCIDENT. With Jonbenet accidentally dying or being killed by Burke slamming her head 'again' with a golf club. Burke would have had no intent to 'kill' rather hurt with every ounce of sibling rivarly imaginable. He had every reason in the world to be enraged and unable to control himself as he also displayed symptoms of sexual molestation.

John was being frank and candid, it comes naturally, a slip of the tongue to his usual guarded scripted responses.

There are many 'inaudibles'- under the breath slips by both Patsy and John throughout all the interviews and technology could help - as much as how it found Burke's background voice on the 911 call.

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#23 Jan 18, 2014
What sort of fill in the blank answer do the IDIs have for this statement by John?????

2 MIKE KANE: The autopsy report, have you
3 seen it?
4 JOHN RAMSEY: No.
5 MIKE KANE: You haven't seen it?
6 JOHN RAMSEY: No, I have not. I can't look at
7 that.
8 MIKE KANE: Okay. Have you discussed in general
9 what's in there, in general?
10 JOHN RAMSEY: Very little. It's hard to discuss
11 with her accidentally (INAUDIBLE).
12 MIKE KANE: What would that be?
Lisa

Dallas, TX

#24 Jan 18, 2014
The new book ill clear this up.
Just Wondering

Beckley, WV

#25 Jan 18, 2014
Unless there is a technical explanation that has been validated by the authorities, Paula Woodward's book will represent her opinion only and any explanation that Mr. Ramsey has devised for this misstatement. He has had almost two decades to come up with his explanation--one that is palatable to his critics and that won't be self-incriminatory. Why wasn't he so forthcoming when the police were seeking leads to his daughter's murder.

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