Cherry

AOL

#21 Dec 10, 2006
I wonder if the Gary person that D.B. talks about knows that he writes information regarding him and I was wondering what the Gary person thought about that. Just curious.
Detroit Breakdown

Fenton, MI

#22 Dec 10, 2006
Cherry wrote:
In reading at the Michigan sites I learned that there was a man named Michael Grant, who is one of the main suspects or one of top ten suspects in this case. His name isn't Gary. I don't believe any of the top contenders are named Gary either but not sure. Also the suspect at the Missing Children Morgan Nick Case did not resemble the main suspect whose picture they have drawed at one of the Michigan sites. They look like two different people. Comments anyone.
Gary has not been convicted of anything. He met Norberg in Filthy McNasty`s. Norberg lived 2 blocks from where Kim King lived. All of the suspects pictures are from that area. The police would not tell you who their suspects are or if ones name was Gary. A member of the OCCK group was friends with the police and talked with Lt. Gray and saw the suspect dawings on a board. One of them, Gus was a childhood friend of Lt. Gray. Gus later went crazy. I suspect that Gary helped Gus catch a couple girls. Gus`s photo, Les`s photo, and Carl`s photo are all similar to ones that witnesses saw. Les claims that he saw a photo of a victim that Gus had. Cherry, I`m sorry. You ask interesting questions, but usually what you state is only partly true. I hope that you don`t take that wrong or stop posting. Gary told me that he killed Nick in Alma. I saw her picture that he had and since I got the Internet see it`s the same photo. Witnesses saw a faded red truck with a too small camper on the back. Gary drove an identical tuck. The only difference is that his was a GMC and they thought it was a Ford. GMC`s resemble Ford`s. GM trucks look different than GMC. I have a photo of Gary`s 2nd red truck and Gary`s vette. Gary looks very similar to the drawing but so do 1/3 of the men in the U.S.

“Beauty is Truth,Truth Beauty”

Since: Dec 06

United States

#23 Dec 10, 2006
I'd like to know Gary's whole name.
Detroit Breakdown

Fenton, MI

#24 Dec 10, 2006
joejam wrote:
wish DB could tell us what Gary looked like.
I`ve told you what Gary looks like. He`s about 6 foot tall, size 10 boots, scottish ancestry with jet black hair. Keeps it medium short. Look at the site National Missing and Exploited Children. Look at Ohio missing James Higham. Gary looks like him but older. Gary has moustache and if doesn`t shave a day or two gets dark growth. Gary`s hair looks like that. Compare it to the Morgan Nick suspect.
Detroit Breakdown

Fenton, MI

#25 Dec 10, 2006
Cherry wrote:
I was reading that D.B. said the spider web was on the hinge side of the grate. Then things went on to say that there were never photos of the spider web or webs on grate. I was just curious how D.B. knows what side of grate they were on.
The police told us---Cobwebs in the grate: Police have argued that if someone moved the grate on the window well, they would have disturbed cobwebs on a portion of the grate. An initial police report states "cobwebs were observed on the southeast portion of the grate." But Smit never saw any photographs showing these cobwebs."In fact," he said,"the photographs show just the opposite -- no cobwebs." But, if there were cobwebs on the southeast portion of the grate, entry could still be made without disturbing them. Smit conducted an experiment with Boulder detectives that found that by sliding the grate forward, an opening is created without disturbing the cobwebs. In addition, some spider experts have suggested that the webs could have been rebuilt quickly

“Beauty is Truth,Truth Beauty”

Since: Dec 06

Douglasville, GA

#26 Dec 10, 2006
Detroit,
Tell us Gary's full name. We'll find him.

“Beauty is Truth,Truth Beauty”

Since: Dec 06

United States

#27 Dec 11, 2006
A man named as a "person of interest" in the Oakland County child killings will soon be heading back to Detroit to face sex charges. Ted Lamborgine was arrested in Ohio on Wednesday. FOX 2 has also learned that police are bringing molestation charges against a second man, Richard Lawson, already in prison for murder.

VIDEO AT:
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/myfox/pages/Home/...
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Detroit Breakdown

Eden, WI

#28 Dec 11, 2006
Victory wrote:
A man named as a "person of interest" in the Oakland County child killings will soon be heading back to Detroit to face sex charges. Ted Lamborgine was arrested in Ohio on Wednesday. FOX 2 has also learned that police are bringing molestation charges against a second man, Richard Lawson, already in prison for murder.
VIDEO AT:
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/myfox/pages/Home/...
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OLD NEWS. NO NEWS NOBODY. Even Oakland County prosecutor Gorcyka said we didn`t say that, the news said that. He`s not the one. He molested 8 boys. The OCCK molested and killed boys and girls. Lawson who finked him off was on the OCCK list years ago. Lawson even is doing a murder stink now and claims police asked him to molest kids to infiltrate the pedophile ring. The OCCK task force looking for the OCCK killer found these 2 men. They do not think that they were involved in the MI OCCK cases, only a pedophile ring with between the 2 of them 23 charges.
Detroit Breakdown

Eden, WI

#29 Dec 11, 2006
Detroit Breakdown wrote:
<quoted text>OLD NEWS. NO NEWS NOBODY. Even Oakland County prosecutor Gorcyka said we didn`t say that, the news said that. He`s not the one. He molested 8 boys. The OCCK molested and killed boys and girls. Lawson who finked him off was on the OCCK list years ago. Lawson even is doing a murder stink now and claims police asked him to molest kids to infiltrate the pedophile ring. The OCCK task force looking for the OCCK killer found these 2 men. They do not think that they were involved in the MI OCCK cases, only a pedophile ring with between the 2 of them 23 charges.
Victory, I`m writing my Dear John letter. He`ll find Gary. He`ll know what`s true better than Smit would. Also I`m busy working on a rental property now. The economy is slowing. There`s probably more steady money in rentals now than building. Shortage of decent rental property here. Government will pay about $1000 a month per house to help low income people.

“Beauty is Truth,Truth Beauty”

Since: Dec 06

United States

#30 Dec 11, 2006
...so you're writing JR a letter? I,too, just closed on a house that I may rent. I've been working on the yards there today. I've decided not to rent just to anyone. There is a college nearby; so, maybe one of the teachers there maybe interested. I'm lucky because my sister lives just across the street from this recently purchased home, and she can keep an eye on it for me. Do you know anything about mole? This house has a half basement and it appears that mole may be on a few of the bottom cinder blocks. A french drain and new gutter have recently been installed around the house.
Justice seeker

Lewiston, ID

#31 Dec 12, 2006
Dec 11, 12:43 PM EST

By KRISTIN LONGLEY

Associated Press Writer

DETROIT (AP)-- Authorities named a suspect Monday in the brutal killings of four children in the 1970s, raising hopes of solving a case that terrorized the region.

Theodore Lamborgine, 65, is "our most promising suspect at this particular time," Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy said at a news conference in Detroit.

The admission that Lamborgine is a suspect in the recently revived "Oakland County Child Killer" case came as Worthy announced charges against Lamborgine in an unrelated series of sexual assaults against six children in the 1970s and 1980s.

Lamborgine, whose home was listed as Parma Heights, Ohio, was to be arraigned Monday afternoon on 17 counts of criminal sexual conduct.

Worthy's office also is bringing charges against Richard Lawson, a convicted murderer, in the sexual assaults of eight juveniles from several Detroit-area communities during the same time period. Lawson, 60, faces 28 counts of criminal sexual conduct but is not a suspect in the child killings.

The two men knew each other and worked together as sexual predators, Worthy said.

"We do consider this a sex ring of sorts," she added, saying authorities believe there are "many, many more" victims.

The two lured their victims, some under 13, to motel rooms and homes with soft drinks, drugs, food and cash, Worthy said.

"These suspects knew that there were a lot of kids living in that area - a lot of poor kids living in that area," said Livonia police Detective Sgt. Cory Williams. "It didn't take too much for them, the suspects, to figure out they could take the kids a case of pop, some drugs or cash."

Lawson, while not a suspect in the killings, provided authorities with information about Lamborgine related to the case, said Garry Gray, head of the Oakland County Child Killer Task Force.

The four slain children - Timothy King, 11; Mark Stebbins, 12; Jill Robinson, 12; and Kristine Mihelich, 10 - were suffocated between February 1976 and March 1977.

Each child was missing between three days and nearly three weeks before the body was found. Two had been raped, and one had been shot in the face with a shotgun.

Authorities revived the investigation into the unsolved killings in February 2005, saying they would begin reanalyzing evidence and leads using more advanced computer databases and forensic techniques.

The investigation's last big lead had fallen apart in 2000, when DNA from the exhumed body of a suspect failed to match the genetic material in a hair found on one of the victims.

Worthy said the sexual assault charges are the result of a two-year investigation. The alleged victims were identified with help of the multi-jurisdictional Oakland County Child Killer Task Force.

Lamborgine and Lawson face maximum penalties of life in prison if convicted of the sexual assaults.

Lawson, behind bars in Michigan, was convicted of murder and armed robbery in March in the 1989 death of Exavor Giller, 67, who owned a cab company where Lawson once worked.
Detroit Breakdown

United States

#32 Dec 12, 2006
Victory wrote:
...so you're writing JR a letter? I,too, just closed on a house that I may rent. I've been working on the yards there today. I've decided not to rent just to anyone. There is a college nearby; so, maybe one of the teachers there maybe interested. I'm lucky because my sister lives just across the street from this recently purchased home, and she can keep an eye on it for me. Do you know anything about mole? This house has a half basement and it appears that mole may be on a few of the bottom cinder blocks. A french drain and new gutter have recently been installed around the house.
Did they install the French drain because the neighbors property was higher and water was running over on yours? Does your basement leak or does it look like it did leak through the wall? If so you might have a broken drain crock where the gutter runs into and it`s been leaking into the wall. Have you seen moles or mole holes? Moles love to eat worms. I have a mole idea I was thinking of marketing. In fact it will work for a variety of animals. Take a couple light bulbs and put them inside some cloth and break them with hammer. Don`t breathe the fumes. Bust glass inside cloth, remove other nonglass pieces and continue busting until glass is powder. Sprinkle glass through raw hamburger. Using gloves Roll into wormlike pieces and throw several in mole holes. Also works for rats and other critters. They eat the hamburger and the glass cuts up their insides. Please make sure to bury in their holes and cover with dirt so cats and dogs do not eat. Also works on unwanted husbands if you cook the hamburger.

“Beauty is Truth,Truth Beauty”

Since: Dec 06

United States

#33 Dec 12, 2006
Detroit Breakdown wrote:
<quoted text>Did they install the French drain because the neighbors property was higher and water was running over on yours? Does your basement leak or does it look like it did leak through the wall? If so you might have a broken drain crock where the gutter runs into and it`s been leaking into the wall. Have you seen moles or mole holes? Moles love to eat worms. I have a mole idea I was thinking of marketing. In fact it will work for a variety of animals. Take a couple light bulbs and put them inside some cloth and break them with hammer. Don`t breathe the fumes. Bust glass inside cloth, remove other nonglass pieces and continue busting until glass is powder. Sprinkle glass through raw hamburger. Using gloves Roll into wormlike pieces and throw several in mole holes. Also works for rats and other critters. They eat the hamburger and the glass cuts up their insides. Please make sure to bury in their holes and cover with dirt so cats and dogs do not eat. Also works on unwanted husbands if you cook the hamburger.
Thanks for the info. Detroit. I should have said mold instead of mole. Any suggestions on that?
Detroit Breakdown

United States

#34 Dec 12, 2006
Victory wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the info. Detroit. I should have said mold instead of mole. Any suggestions on that?
Mold. Paint stoes sell a product called TSP which is trisodium phosphate. Mix some in warm water wearing gloves. Wipe wall off. Wash twice after that with bleach water about ten minues apart wiping wall. Then use TSP again and leave the TSP on the wall without wiping this time. That`s what they recommend for mold. TSP and bleach.
Autumn

AOL

#35 Dec 12, 2006
Justice seeker wrote:
Dec 11, 12:43 PM EST
By KRISTIN LONGLEY
Associated Press Writer
DETROIT (AP)-- Authorities named a suspect Monday in the brutal killings of four children in the 1970s, raising hopes of solving a case that terrorized the region.
Theodore Lamborgine, 65, is "our most promising suspect at this particular time," Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy said at a news conference in Detroit.
The admission that Lamborgine is a suspect in the recently revived "Oakland County Child Killer" case came as Worthy announced charges against Lamborgine in an unrelated series of sexual assaults against six children in the 1970s and 1980s.
Lamborgine, whose home was listed as Parma Heights, Ohio, was to be arraigned Monday afternoon on 17 counts of criminal sexual conduct.
Worthy's office also is bringing charges against Richard Lawson, a convicted murderer, in the sexual assaults of eight juveniles from several Detroit-area communities during the same time period. Lawson, 60, faces 28 counts of criminal sexual conduct but is not a suspect in the child killings.
The two men knew each other and worked together as sexual predators, Worthy said.
"We do consider this a sex ring of sorts," she added, saying authorities believe there are "many, many more" victims.
The two lured their victims, some under 13, to motel rooms and homes with soft drinks, drugs, food and cash, Worthy said.
"These suspects knew that there were a lot of kids living in that area - a lot of poor kids living in that area," said Livonia police Detective Sgt. Cory Williams. "It didn't take too much for them, the suspects, to figure out they could take the kids a case of pop, some drugs or cash."
Lawson, while not a suspect in the killings, provided authorities with information about Lamborgine related to the case, said Garry Gray, head of the Oakland County Child Killer Task Force.
The four slain children - Timothy King, 11; Mark Stebbins, 12; Jill Robinson, 12; and Kristine Mihelich, 10 - were suffocated between February 1976 and March 1977.
Each child was missing between three days and nearly three weeks before the body was found. Two had been raped, and one had been shot in the face with a shotgun.
Authorities revived the investigation into the unsolved killings in February 2005, saying they would begin reanalyzing evidence and leads using more advanced computer databases and forensic techniques.
The investigation's last big lead had fallen apart in 2000, when DNA from the exhumed body of a suspect failed to match the genetic material in a hair found on one of the victims.
Worthy said the sexual assault charges are the result of a two-year investigation. The alleged victims were identified with help of the multi-jurisdictional Oakland County Child Killer Task Force.
Lamborgine and Lawson face maximum penalties of life in prison if convicted of the sexual assaults.
Lawson, behind bars in Michigan, was convicted of murder and armed robbery in March in the 1989 death of Exavor Giller, 67, who owned a cab company where Lawson once worked.
Interesting.... Thank you for posting this Justice Seeker...:0)
Detroit Breakdown

United States

#36 Dec 12, 2006
Autumn wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting.... Thank you for posting this Justice Seeker...:0)
The same cops running the MI OCCK investigation that have not believed me say thse 2 idiots are possibly OCCK killer. Gorcyka Oakland County prosecutor was just on news again live. He says it`s B.S. These 2 guys PAID BOYS in WAYNE county for sex. BOYS ONLY. The OCCK kidnapped and murdered BOYS AND GIRLS IN OAKLAND COUNTY keeping them for up to 11 days then murdering them. Gorcyka thinks they OCCK task force is on wrong path.--note though lawson is a killer and says later he will release the killers identity.-Police think if he knew it he`d have already talked. He`s a blabbermouth, snitch in the past.
Cherry

AOL

#37 Dec 12, 2006
I read at Michigan related site that someone said the Phisophex was not phisophex but dishwashing detergent with phisophex in it. Interesting tidbit. That is what they say anyway.
Cherry

AOL

#38 Dec 12, 2006
If it were true that F.W. was involved as D.B. says I was wondering how the two of them would have crossed paths. I would imagine their lives and lifestyles would probably not be real similar.
Detroit Breakdown

United States

#39 Dec 12, 2006
Cherry wrote:
I read at Michigan related site that someone said the Phisophex was not phisophex but dishwashing detergent with phisophex in it. Interesting tidbit. That is what they say anyway.
That is a lie.
Detroit Breakdown

United States

#40 Dec 12, 2006
Cherry wrote:
If it were true that F.W. was involved as D.B. says I was wondering how the two of them would have crossed paths. I would imagine their lives and lifestyles would probably not be real similar.
Gay bar California. In winters when less kids are out Gaey has sex with gay & bisexual men. Gary says Fleet`s bisexual. Krebbs says Fleet`s pedophile. The two pedophiles and bisexuals are often closely related.

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