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Kassie

Jasper, TX

#1 Jul 26, 2012
Did the Gingerbread Productions pageant Director send someone to Boulder to confiscate JonBenet's crowns, sashes, and trophies that she won. The reason I ask is because after researching on the internet, I realize that JonBenet never attended nationals. The director told my friend, whose daughter won the texas supreme title that she would send someone after her awards because she didn't attend the national pageant. Is there any account of Patsy having a conversation like this with the director.

“YES”

Since: Mar 07

TWICE

#2 Jul 26, 2012
Why would they take back trophies, etc that she had won in other pageants?

Is there a theory behind the pageant focus? Do you have a particular angle that involves the pageants?
Kassie

Jasper, TX

#3 Jul 26, 2012
Capricorn wrote:
Why would they take back trophies, etc that she had won in other pageants?
Is there a theory behind the pageant focus? Do you have a particular angle that involves the pageants?
It was a threat. If you didn't attend the next pageant then the director threatened to take the awards away. In my friends case, the director took her title away, but not her awards. This is an unsolved murder and I am looking at every angle.

As I stated when I first came to this forum, I didn't pay too much attention to the JBR case. I had a toddler and a baby on the way. I thought the case was solved until the JMK fiasco. Then I learned, years later, that a man who had history as a teenager of breaking and entering homes and molesting girls while her parents slept lived in Boulder at the time of her death. I turned the information into the Fair and Justice Foundation, as well as the BPD. I never heard back from anyone. I got an email back from F and J foundation but it's one that is automatically sent. I had alot of info, including alot that I haven't disclosed on this forum. It seems to me that the police and John Ramsey's team know what happened to JB and for some reason they don't want to pursue finding her killer(s). I just don't understand why.

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#4 Jul 26, 2012
Kassie wrote:
Did the Gingerbread Productions pageant Director send someone to Boulder to confiscate JonBenet's crowns, sashes, and trophies that she won.
Yes, that is exacty what happened.

“If life gives you melons”

Since: Nov 06

You might be dyslexic

#5 Jul 26, 2012
Kassie wrote:
Did the Gingerbread Productions pageant Director send someone to Boulder to confiscate JonBenet's crowns, sashes, and trophies that she won. The reason I ask is because after researching on the internet, I realize that JonBenet never attended nationals. The director told my friend, whose daughter won the texas supreme title that she would send someone after her awards because she didn't attend the national pageant. Is there any account of Patsy having a conversation like this with the director.
Hi Kassie,

What is the difference in the Gingerbread Productions pageants at the state level and the Gingerbread Productions pageant America?

“YES”

Since: Mar 07

TWICE

#6 Jul 26, 2012
Kassie wrote:
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It was a threat. If you didn't attend the next pageant then the director threatened to take the awards away. In my friends case, the director took her title away, but not her awards. This is an unsolved murder and I am looking at every angle.
As I stated when I first came to this forum, I didn't pay too much attention to the JBR case. I had a toddler and a baby on the way. I thought the case was solved until the JMK fiasco. Then I learned, years later, that a man who had history as a teenager of breaking and entering homes and molesting girls while her parents slept lived in Boulder at the time of her death. I turned the information into the Fair and Justice Foundation, as well as the BPD. I never heard back from anyone. I got an email back from F and J foundation but it's one that is automatically sent. I had alot of info, including alot that I haven't disclosed on this forum. It seems to me that the police and John Ramsey's team know what happened to JB and for some reason they don't want to pursue finding her killer(s). I just don't understand why.
Okay, thank you for taking the time to explain
Kassie

Jasper, TX

#7 Jul 26, 2012
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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Hi Kassie,
What is the difference in the Gingerbread Productions pageants at the state level and the Gingerbread Productions pageant America?
My daughter only competed on the local level but best I can tell is when they win the title, they move on to the next pageant (e.i. state then national). If the title holder doesn't attend then she has to forfeit her title and prizes.
Kassie

Jasper, TX

#8 Jul 26, 2012
BrotherMoon wrote:
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Yes, that is exacty what happened.
It's clear that you are just trying to joke around. If the director would call up a friend of mine and ask her to turn over her winnings, she could have called Patsy....

“If life gives you melons”

Since: Nov 06

You might be dyslexic

#9 Jul 26, 2012
Kassie wrote:
<quoted text>My daughter only competed on the local level but best I can tell is when they win the title, they move on to the next pageant (e.i. state then national). If the title holder doesn't attend then she has to forfeit her title and prizes.
OK thanks...appreciate it.

That goes for just the Gingerbread ones though right? They would have nothing to do with either the local Colorado pageants or the one she was going to be in after the Big Red Boat trip in Hawaii, correct?
The Truth Hurts

Sterling Heights, MI

#10 Jul 26, 2012
Kassie wrote:
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It was a threat. If you didn't attend the next pageant then the director threatened to take the awards away. In my friends case, the director took her title away, but not her awards. This is an unsolved murder and I am looking at every angle.
As I stated when I first came to this forum, I didn't pay too much attention to the JBR case. I had a toddler and a baby on the way. I thought the case was solved until the JMK fiasco. Then I learned, years later, that a man who had history as a teenager of breaking and entering homes and molesting girls while her parents slept lived in Boulder at the time of her death. I turned the information into the Fair and Justice Foundation, as well as the BPD. I never heard back from anyone. I got an email back from F and J foundation but it's one that is automatically sent. I had alot of info, including alot that I haven't disclosed on this forum. It seems to me that the police and John Ramsey's team know what happened to JB and for some reason they don't want to pursue finding her killer(s). I just don't understand why.
Your kids sure seem to be spaced far apart. Your oldest was in pageants at the same time as JB and you had a toddler and a baby on the way when you came to this forum - which was what? Maybe a year or two ago?
Shouldn't you be in menopause by now? ;)

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#11 Jul 26, 2012
The Truth Hurts wrote:
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Your kids sure seem to be spaced far apart. Your oldest was in pageants at the same time as JB and you had a toddler and a baby on the way when you came to this forum - which was what? Maybe a year or two ago?
Shouldn't you be in menopause by now? ;)
Or medicare :-)
Kassie

Jasper, TX

#12 Jul 26, 2012
The Truth Hurts wrote:
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Your kids sure seem to be spaced far apart. Your oldest was in pageants at the same time as JB and you had a toddler and a baby on the way when you came to this forum - which was what? Maybe a year or two ago?
Shouldn't you be in menopause by now? ;)
I only have two girls. One was close to three when JB died. she did pageants when she was little bitty and she only did a few. I didn't come to this forum until last year. You are a little slow.
Kassie

Jasper, TX

#13 Jul 26, 2012
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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OK thanks...appreciate it.
That goes for just the Gingerbread ones though right? They would have nothing to do with either the local Colorado pageants or the one she was going to be in after the Big Red Boat trip in Hawaii, correct?
I am sure the pageants have all the same rules in all states as long as it's the same system.

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#14 Jul 26, 2012
Kassie wrote:
If the title holder doesn't attend then she has to forfeit her title and prizes.
Chances are that is not what the actual contract says, just what you think it means. These are money making for profit ventures and what they promoters want is the hefty pageant entrance fee, they could care less what kids show up. Patsy could have easily paid any fee and beewn allowed to keep the booty.

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#15 Jul 26, 2012
Kassie wrote:
Did the Gingerbread Productions pageant Director send someone to Boulder to confiscate JonBenet's crowns, sashes, and trophies that she won. The reason I ask is because after researching on the internet, I realize that JonBenet never attended nationals. The director told my friend, whose daughter won the texas supreme title that she would send someone after her awards because she didn't attend the national pageant. Is there any account of Patsy having a conversation like this with the director.
It's clear that you are just trying to joke around.
The Truth Hurts

Sterling Heights, MI

#16 Jul 26, 2012
Kassie wrote:
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I only have two girls. One was close to three when JB died. she did pageants when she was little bitty and she only did a few. I didn't come to this forum until last year. You are a little slow.
I'm not slow at all. It's the way you worded it.
My apologies for the misunderstanding.

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Kassie

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#17 Jul 26, 2012
moonjack wrote:
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Chances are that is not what the actual contract says, just what you think it means. These are money making for profit ventures and what they promoters want is the hefty pageant entrance fee, they could care less what kids show up. Patsy could have easily paid any fee and beewn allowed to keep the booty.
This director tried to bully my friend into attending her national pageant. The fees were very expensive. She was serious when she said it was mandatory for all title holders to attend. Also, she gave out many titles to assure more girls would come. Maybe there was a reason Patsy didn't want her there other than the family reunion.

My reason for bringing this up, did she(the director) send someone to get the loot? Someone who could have had his own agenda? Maybe not, but then again, this case has never been solved.

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#18 Jul 27, 2012
Kassie wrote:
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This director tried to bully my friend into attending her national pageant. The fees were very expensive. She was serious when she said it was mandatory for all title holders to attend.
Partcipation is by signed contract, not by what is said verbally before or after. Read the fine print. They don't care about the kids. Pageants have nothing to do with children. It's about making money as a business and stroking the parents' ego.
Kassie

Jasper, TX

#19 Jul 27, 2012
moonjack wrote:
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Partcipation is by signed contract, not by what is said verbally before or after. Read the fine print. They don't care about the kids. Pageants have nothing to do with children. It's about making money as a business and stroking the parents' ego.
I agree!
sugar24

United States

#20 Aug 22, 2012
no they do not take your crown or trophys they take your title and any money or trips you may have won... no one came to get her prizes..

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