Docs to be released Friday!!!

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Heloise

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#1 Oct 23, 2013
Mitchell Byars ‏@mitchellbyars 2m

BREAKING: Judge orders release of 18-page indictment on John and Patsy Ramsey in JonBenet case. Docs will be released Friday
Heloise

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#2 Oct 23, 2013
Another new thread and a plethora of exclamations. Sorry all: I'm a tad excited.
Heloise

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#3 Oct 23, 2013
Mitchell Byars ‏@mitchellbyars 15m

Per judge on Ramsey release: Then-#Boulder DA prepared series of possible charges based on fact child had died, evidence of sex assault
Heloise

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#4 Oct 23, 2013
Heloise

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#5 Oct 23, 2013
There is apparently more on this story but - according to Twitter - there's a technology issue somewhere.

Since: Feb 12

Pearl City, HI

#6 Oct 23, 2013
Don't get your hopes too high. This release is not going to make any difference. The IDI's will still be IDI even with anything being released, including a written confession by a Ramsey.
AK
Heloise

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#7 Oct 23, 2013
http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_24369117

From this, it isn't clear that the whole thing will be released.
Heloise

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#8 Oct 23, 2013
Bakatari wrote:
Don't get your hopes too high. This release is not going to make any difference. The IDI's will still be IDI even with anything being released, including a written confession by a Ramsey.
AK
I know. I'm pathetic to be so happy about this. Nothing will change, I imagine. But I hope it will re-open the debate at least temporarily. I hope some of the key actors in the case will come out from under cover and talk, too.

Since: Jan 12

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#9 Oct 23, 2013
Heloise wrote:
<quoted text>I know. I'm pathetic to be so happy about this. Nothing will change, I imagine. But I hope it will re-open the debate at least temporarily. I hope some of the key actors in the case will come out from under cover and talk, too.
I imagine most IDIs & RDIs are hopeful the indictment may answer any number of questions that have been lingering for years. It's exciting to think that some resolution could come from this. If new facts come to light, theories will evolve....hopefully.

Since: Feb 12

Pearl City, HI

#10 Oct 23, 2013
Mama2JML wrote:
<quoted text>I imagine most IDIs & RDIs are hopeful the indictment may answer any number of questions that have been lingering for years. It's exciting to think that some resolution could come from this. If new facts come to light, theories will evolve....hopefully.
Nothing will come from this. The JMK fiasco didn't prove anything, although it is quite obvious to me, that the arrest was made with sloppy work done by Mary Lacy?K.

The Ramsey team did a very good job in putting a lid on the incriminating information, regardless of whom it may have pointed to.
AK

Since: May 11

AOL

#11 Oct 23, 2013
I hope all the agencies that settled lawsuits because the Ramseys said they weren't indicted and therefor slandered, sues the shyt out of JR! He knew then and knows now who killed JB and purposely pointed at INNOCENT people to make a buck off her little, dead back. He needs to pay for the murder and alllllllllllllll his lies!

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#12 Oct 23, 2013
Heloise wrote:
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I know. I'm pathetic to be so happy about this. Nothing will change, I imagine. But I hope it will re-open the debate at least temporarily. I hope some of the key actors in the case will come out from under cover and talk, too.
Hi Heloise,

Oh well, I'm just as pathetic as you are and am cautiously getting my hopes up.....I'm sure only to have them dashed but it has been so long since any glimmer of hope has arrived with this case, even tidbits of facts are enough to get some of us excited

I don't think that they are going to release everything and only what the foreman has signed. They suggest a lot of other paperwork that considered "a series of possible charges". I sure hope the foreman has signed some of those too. I think it would be enlightening to know what OTHER charges were considered

I won't get my hopes up that this will bring any real resolution but anything that is clarified and learned is a good thing; maybe not for the Ramseys, but for the public interest and for justice.

I will gladly accept any tidbits that come from this and no matter what, this is big news in Colorado and just MAY bring some more attention to the case; it's sorely needed
candy

East Lansing, MI

#13 Oct 23, 2013
I hope this is the beginning of the end for this conspiracy and the person or persons who murdered Jonbenet. Kudos to Stan Garnett and the Judge for standing tall.

Since: Jul 10

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#14 Oct 23, 2013
It's only the actual pages the jury foreman signed that can be released? It's an 18 page document - did he sign every page??

Since: Apr 10

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#15 Oct 23, 2013
I still won't believe it until I see it, as I'm sure Team Ramsey is scrambling to pull any strings they can to delay and stop the judgment from carrying forth.

But I have to say one thing shocks the crap out of me about this, and it's a GOOD shock: WHO KNEW THERE WAS AN HONEST JUDGE IN COLORADO?!!

Gimme that bowl of Crow! YUM!!!
candy

East Lansing, MI

#16 Oct 23, 2013
Thank you Jesus and Thank you Judge! I believe this Judge could be independent of Haddon because he is RETIRED. The opinion of the Judge opening the grand jury indictment to public scrutiny:

"The request of Mr. Ramsey to release the entire record of the grand jury cannot be granted. Such an action would set a precedent that would impede other grand juries in performing their functions under statute and rule."

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/s...

Since: Feb 12

Pearl City, HI

#17 Oct 23, 2013
I predicted in 1997, that this crime will never be "solved". I will stay by my prediction. Too many stupid and stubborn people, and too much money and power hiding the truth.

The obvious is Lou Smit, who came up with saying "The garrote is a favorite tool used by pedophiles." That kind of BS tells me he was either on the take, or he was extremely stupid.

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#18 Oct 24, 2013
koldkase wrote:
I still won't believe it until I see it, as I'm sure Team Ramsey is scrambling to pull any strings they can to delay and stop the judgment from carrying forth.
But I have to say one thing shocks the crap out of me about this, and it's a GOOD shock: WHO KNEW THERE WAS AN HONEST JUDGE IN COLORADO?!!
Gimme that bowl of Crow! YUM!!!
I am really happy that the judge is going to release the documents, albeit we won't know to what extent some of the evidence was. It is still a VICTORY that at the very least, is now public

Most of the people who knew about the indictment were those of us who follow the case and keep up with the goings on. Now, with the news on the front page of Boulder and getting all this press, all those who know about the case just by the media and the famous JBR name, also now know that the parents were held responsible for her death. I think this is huge overall whether anything really NEW comes out or not

It's time for transparency and information after all these years and whether there is ever a trial or not, the public KNOWS that the GJ found them responsible.

Also, Candy, if you know: Once the GJ papers are released on Friday, do the GJ members have permission to speak about the proceedings? If so, the proverbial ---- may just hit the fan in many ways

“WAX ON”

Since: Jul 10

WAX OFF

#19 Oct 24, 2013
Smit did more to derail this case than almost everyone else combined. He was famous for "she got a piece of her killer" too.
Bakatari wrote:
I predicted in 1997, that this crime will never be "solved". I will stay by my prediction. Too many stupid and stubborn people, and too much money and power hiding the truth.
The obvious is Lou Smit, who came up with saying "The garrote is a favorite tool used by pedophiles." That kind of BS tells me he was either on the take, or he was extremely stupid.

Since: Jan 12

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#20 Oct 24, 2013
"The secrecy of the grand jury continues until an indictment or a report is made public. If no indictment or report is issued, the proceedings of the grand jury remain secret."

http://www.boulder-bar.org/bar_media_manual/c...

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