Stan Garnett on the Ramsey case TODAY, 11/9/12

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candy

East Lansing, MI

#1 Nov 9, 2012
I notice my entire thread "Stan Garnett and the status of the Ramsey case "missing" , so here are his remarks today about the status of the JonBenet Ramsey case:

Stan Garnett today, 11/9/12: "We will never file a case unless the evidence is sufficient to meet our ethical standard that we have a reasonable likelihood of conviction unanimously by a jury of twelve. AN EXAMPLE IS THE RAMSEY CASE: The Ramsey case, the state of the evidence is such that, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WORK GOING ON IN THAT CASE, um, IF evidence "DEVELOPED" that led us to think me MAY be able to file a case, we'd make it a top priority. But if you don't have the evidence or if the evidence is EQUIVOCAL, AND NOT LEADING ANYWHERE, we're not going to put the resources in it. If we do have evidence, and we think we can develop it, we'll put a lot of resources into it."

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#2 Nov 9, 2012
candy wrote:
I notice my entire thread "Stan Garnett and the status of the Ramsey case "missing" , so here are his remarks today about the status of the JonBenet Ramsey case:
Stan Garnett today, 11/9/12: "We will never file a case unless the evidence is sufficient to meet our ethical standard that we have a reasonable likelihood of conviction unanimously by a jury of twelve. AN EXAMPLE IS THE RAMSEY CASE: The Ramsey case, the state of the evidence is such that, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WORK GOING ON IN THAT CASE, um, IF evidence "DEVELOPED" that led us to think me MAY be able to file a case, we'd make it a top priority. But if you don't have the evidence or if the evidence is EQUIVOCAL, AND NOT LEADING ANYWHERE, we're not going to put the resources in it. If we do have evidence, and we think we can develop it, we'll put a lot of resources into it."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0Z95-twQaYcXX&feature=g-a ll-u
Thanks Candy for the link.

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#3 Nov 9, 2012
Lots of threads have been disappearing and I don't remember reading anything threatening, vulgar or against the TOS in any of them, just the same old bickering with a side of nonsense.

IMO a jury in a state with legalized marijuana wouldn't be as hard a sell as one with.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#4 Nov 9, 2012
As I said on my "missing" thread, Garnett is now the third DA in a row WAITING for a case they can't lose to come fluttering down from heaven. IT WON'T EVER HAPPEN. So, what is PLAN B? Does anyone think that the Jessica Ridgeway suspect Austin Rees would have EVER confided in/ confessed to his mother if the LAW ENFORCEMENT HEAT HADN'T BEEN TURNED ALL THE WAY UP? That law enforcement was canvassing HIS neighborhood, taking HIS DNA? The same with the Anthrax case. Do you think that the prime suspect, Dr. Bruce Ivins, WITH THE FBI temperature turned all the way up on him, and knowing an arrest was imminent, killed himself? Do you think John Gotti would have let any "evidence" "DEVELOP" on him, or did it not take some BRAVE prosecutors to go out and turn up the heat, use AGGRESSIVE law enforcement techniques and put together a prosecution? All of these cases DEVELOPED with a LOT of law enforcement heat on the PRIME SUSPECT. There's NEVER been that heat on the Scams EVER in this case. Hunter was too busy waving the white flag and handing over evidence, and pleading with them to give him an interview MONTHS AFTER THE FACT. That's why this case is in the state it is in.

What about Barack Obama's YES WE CAN attitude? He was BILLIONS of dollars outspent by right wing BIG MONEY and did he wave the white flag and turn over the keys to the White House to Romney? NO HE WON IT. We need YES WE CAN, not no I'm on the 16th year of waiting for the SMALL FOREIGN FACTION to confess. That is NOT going to ever happen. So you go to plan B.

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#5 Nov 9, 2012
I mean than a state without

The evidence is there but not for murder. It would be far less sensational. An accident covered up by pathetic parents. And can you see encopresis ever becoming the indepth lead story on the 6:OO news? Katie Couric would have to be brought out of moth balls to cover that.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#6 Nov 9, 2012
Anyone who was an Obama supporter KNOWS that the President's win didn't just "happen" and his supporters didn't just show up, so he and his side wouldn't have to do anything. THE BASE WAS DEVELOPED BY OBAMA's outstanding organizers. THEY FOUND YOU, they kept up with YOU, they asked you for money, for volunteer help, to identify MORE supports so they could do the same to them. THEY MADE IT HAPPEN. If he would have been waiting for the "base" to come to him, he would have lost. He and his ground game MADE THE WIN HAPPEN. Get it Boulder?
candy

East Lansing, MI

#7 Nov 9, 2012
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall, Osama bin Laden didn't call up the Navy Seals and confess and give his location to come and arrest him. NO, Obama and the US military had to be ACTIVELY PURSUING HIM, and even doing that, it was never the Boulder must have SLAM DUNK that you can't lose, they weren't even sure it was him in the house. BUT NO GUTS, NO GLORY, and the Seals and Obama got ALL the glory because they took all the risk for JUSTICE.

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#12 Nov 10, 2012
Directly following DA Garnett's statements about the Ramsey investigation, his comments emphasize the effects of a violent homicide on the victimS. He acknowledges the devastation experienced by the families of violently murdered loved ones, and Garnett closes with the statement, "So, it is satisfying to bring any of these [cold] cases to a just resolution." ...satisfying to bring justice for the victimS, including the murdered loved one AND their family.

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#13 Nov 10, 2012
Mama2JML wrote:
Directly following DA Garnett's statements about the Ramsey investigation, his comments emphasize the effects of a violent homicide on the victimS. He acknowledges the devastation experienced by the families of violently murdered loved ones, and Garnett closes with the statement, "So, it is satisfying to bring any of these [cold] cases to a just resolution." ...satisfying to bring justice for the victimS, including the murdered loved one AND their family.
Then which is it? Is he a good guy now or part of a biased group against the Ramseys?

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#14 Nov 10, 2012
Legal__Eagle wrote:
<quoted text>Then which is it? Is he a good guy now or part of a biased group against the Ramseys?
Neither? He's the Boulder County DA, period.

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#15 Nov 10, 2012
Mama2JML wrote:
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Neither? He's the Boulder County DA, period.
Making a generic statement as the Boulder City DA. Lacy made plenty of those too in her day and so did Hunter.

Since: May 11

Seattle, WA

#16 Nov 10, 2012
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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Then which is it? Is he a good guy now or part of a biased group against the Ramseys?
He's a GRrrrrrrrrrrreat DA now, silly! He's not going to get off his fat rear and solve this puppy, HENCE JR's free to roam the country. He's a FANTASTIC DA now that we know JBR's killer gets a pass to eternity! JonBenWHO?
"I don't think I want to know" John Ramsey on the status of the case. LOL
candy

East Lansing, MI

#17 Nov 10, 2012
He didn't mention the Sid Wells cold case AT ALL in these brief remarks. You have to understand the Ramsey case DOESN'T get compared with the average homicide or cold case in Boulder. IT DOES get compared with the OTHER JUST US system in Boulder, the OTHER cold case and homicides involving RICH AND OR NOTORIOUS PEOPLE. There are three cases total: Sid Wells, JonBenet Ramsey and Jason Midyette. As Steve Thomas righly noted in his book YOU MUST understand the Sid Wells case and how Hunter "handled" that case to understand how he "handled" JonBenet Ramsey. It's the same with the Midyette case. THEY ARE SO INTIMIDATED BY SUSPECTS WITH MONEY IN BOULDER that Lacy DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER to charge either Molly or Alex Midyette with first degree murder and first degree child abuse in the HOMICIDE of their infant son with THIRTY SEVEN BROKEN BONES, where the government's own theory was the baby was beaten by the father with the mother doing nothing about it. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY SHE WOULD EVEN CHARGE THEM WITH ANYTHING. These cases like Wells under Hunter are NOT CHARGED or SEVERELY UNDERCHARGED under Lacy or PASSED on by HUNTER, LACY AND GARNETT.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#18 Nov 10, 2012
Remember, all the major media like Bill O'Reilly got in on the Midyette case because they had worked on the JonBenet Ramsey case and turned in to watch Lacy arrest the wrong man with Karr, and what did they see going on in Boulder by A RAMSEY RE-RUN, another RICH COUPLE with a dead kid in their custody NOT GETTTING ARRESTED OR CHARGED with a crime. They had seen this RE-RUN before in the Ramsey case when they were covering it.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#19 Nov 10, 2012
Remember too, we know how this game works with these DA's that are deliberately trying to not do something about a RICH SUSPECT'S case. When Alex Hunter said he had "INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE" to charge anyone with a crime in the Ramsey case, Steve Thomas let us know it was HUNTER who PREVENTED THEM from getting the SUFFICIENT evidence by REFUSING THE POLICE routine search warrants to get evidence! It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy AND THEY KNOW IT. Similarly, Garnett says the evidence is "equivocal" therefore, doesn't want to spend any money DEVELOPING it, therefore the case goes NOWHERE. That's the fix, folks.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#20 Nov 10, 2012
You know, why did Hunter, six years out of office, give Charlie Brennan a three hour long interview on ONE subject, The JonBenet Ramsey case? Because he knew his legacy would be about that case FIRST, whether he liked it or not, it will be in the FIRST PARAGRAPH of his obituary. Lacy understood this too, that's why she wanted to rewrite the script in the HOPE she would be remembered for clearing the Ramseys first instead of arresting the wrong man but Garnett doesn't realize it yet. He is one of three DA's overseeing one of the WORLD'S most WRITTEN ABOUT unsolved murder cases. HIS name and reputation is INEXORABLY linked to what he does AND DOES NOT do in the JonBenet Ramsey case as much as theirs is.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#21 Nov 10, 2012
Here's how Hunter fixed the fight, fixed the Grand Jury in the Sid Wells case NOT to indict Smika. So when a grand jury was FORCED on Hunter by Governor Romer, people like Fleet White and Bill and Janet McReynolds reminded people of what Hunter did in the Sid Wells grand jury and SURE ENOUGH NO CHARGES, INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE in the Ramsey grand jury ALSO.

Quote: "In the investigation of University of Colorado student Sid Wells' gunshot death in 1983, the Boulder County District Attorney's Office asked a grand jury to "MAKE NO DECISION in this case on the issue of whether or not the suspect had murdered Sid Wells," according to court records of the grand jury proceeding later released under court order.

Prosecutor Pete Maguire stated in an affidavit that he explained to the grand jury that he did not think there was enough evidence to file criminal charges.

"After a period of deliberation the grand jury indicated that they would not request that they be allowed to vote and decide the issue of probable cause," according to Maguire's affidavit.

In 1997, Boulder police reopened their investigation of that grand jury's target, Thayne Smika, whose whereabouts are unknown."

http://web.dailycamera.com/extra/ramsey/2000/...
candy

East Lansing, MI

#22 Nov 10, 2012
It's always been "insufficient evidence" for Alex Hunter, even in the OJ Simpson case and his INFAMOUS comments that Johnnie Cochran "rushed" that prosecution, EVEN WITH A MOUNTAIN OF what everyone but Alex Hunter considered EVIDENCE INCLUDING DNA. He would not have indicted that case either as DA.
Steve Eller

United States

#23 Nov 10, 2012
candy wrote:
Here's how Hunter fixed the fight, fixed the Grand Jury in the Sid Wells case NOT to indict Smika. So when a grand jury was FORCED on Hunter by Governor Romer, people like Fleet White and Bill and Janet McReynolds reminded people of what Hunter did in the Sid Wells grand jury and SURE ENOUGH NO CHARGES, INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE in the Ramsey grand jury ALSO.
Quote: "In the investigation of University of Colorado student Sid Wells' gunshot death in 1983, the Boulder County District Attorney's Office asked a grand jury to "MAKE NO DECISION in this case on the issue of whether or not the suspect had murdered Sid Wells," according to court records of the grand jury proceeding later released under court order.
Prosecutor Pete Maguire stated in an affidavit that he explained to the grand jury that he did not think there was enough evidence to file criminal charges.
"After a period of deliberation the grand jury indicated that they would not request that they be allowed to vote and decide the issue of probable cause," according to Maguire's affidavit.
In 1997, Boulder police reopened their investigation of that grand jury's target, Thayne Smika, whose whereabouts are unknown."
http://web.dailycamera.com/extra/ramsey/2000/...
This is where James Kolar could help. If his book received even a little national publicity, the pressure would be ramped up exponentially on Stan Garnett to do something....

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#24 Nov 10, 2012
Nobody will touch this case in court. Patsy is too dead to be charged as the Drama Queen of the decade. Burke was too young to be charged for manslaughter and John was, is, and always will be flaccid. Plus the case is too revolting.

Exposing the truth about how emotionally ill these children were with encopresis would be as well received as bringing a dermoid cyst to the dinner table.

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