Peter Boyles and the JonBenet Ramsey ...
candy

East Lansing, MI

#42 Jul 14, 2013
chocolate brownie wrote:
Candy, I understand what you're saying but according to DOI, that was not the only Christmas time parade she attended. In chapter Christmas Past of page 101, it says "Another part of our Christmas tradition in Boulder was the children's parade that Boulder held each year. For several years both JonBenet and Burke had been two of the many children joining the event. Our first involvement occurred in 1993 when Patsy was still struggling with chemotherapy".
This 12/28 Boyles show caller is talking about the Christmas pageant where she is DRESSED UP in a pageant outfit, to the extent that Patsy does not want her to have a coat on, THAT'S WHY HE APPROACHED JONBENET, because it was "freezing" out according to him, and asked her if she would like some hot chocolate, and Patsy then shooed him away.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#43 Jul 14, 2013
Here's what John Ramsey said, and it's clear, the caller on Boyles and Ramsey are talking about the SAME PARADE:

"Ramsey said he remembers his little girl in a parade, just days before JonBenet was found killed in the basement of the family's Boulder, Colo., home on Dec. 26, 1996.

"Patsy had her sitting atop a friend's convertible in the Christmas parade waving at the people lining the streets," Ramsey recalled. "Patsy's mother later told me that a strange man approached the car during the parade and it made her uncomfortable."

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/jonbenet...
candy

East Lansing, MI

#44 Sep 8, 2013
Peter Boyles won the ratings slot against his competitors. This is good news for this case:

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2013/08/...

I would like to know a couple of things from Boyles shows in the past:

1) In 1998, Peter reported that there was a 4:00 a.m. phone call from John Ramsey to Mike Bynum on 12/26/96? Is that accurate?

2) Info on the Paula Woodward book on the Ramsey case. Has he heard anything more about it?

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#46 Oct 21, 2013
There has been an interesting lack of comment by Boyles with all the Brennan/Daily Camera action going on but today his producer posted a link to the latest article.

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#47 Oct 22, 2013

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#48 Oct 22, 2013
candy wrote:
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This 12/28 Boyles show caller is talking about the Christmas pageant where she is DRESSED UP in a pageant outfit, to the extent that Patsy does not want her to have a coat on, THAT'S WHY HE APPROACHED JONBENET, because it was "freezing" out according to him, and asked her if she would like some hot chocolate, and Patsy then shooed him away.
Wait a minute; in your next post you have JR saying he was told by Nedra about this incident, which would match the timeline of the Ramseys being out of town during this particular parade. They were in NY with the Stines, were they not?

So the man from Boyles' show must have been embellishing, at least in his memories, as Patsy couldn't have shooed him away because he wasn't there.

Maybe he was thinking Nedra was Patsy and she shooed him away? Or maybe it was Pam Archuleta, who was helping with the kids in the parade, including Burke and the Boy Scout march?

Just want to get the details correct so as not to have more confusion. There's so much already, from all the comments I'm reading on sites reporting on the latest Brennan lawsuit.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#49 Oct 22, 2013
candy wrote:
Peter Boyles won the ratings slot against his competitors. This is good news for this case:
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2013/08/...
I would like to know a couple of things from Boyles shows in the past:
1) In 1998, Peter reported that there was a 4:00 a.m. phone call from John Ramsey to Mike Bynum on 12/26/96? Is that accurate?
2) Info on the Paula Woodward book on the Ramsey case. Has he heard anything more about it?
On the 4 a.m. phone call: do you have any links or information where we can find that audio or a transcript? Even a discussion about it to corroborate this?

I ask because, while there are many discussions on Ramsey phone contacts before the 911 call, this is the first time I've seen it sourced to Boyles' show.

I wonder if that's the "one more piece of really damning evidence" against the Ramseys Boyle spoke of last January on his radio show about the Grand Jury indictment when it was first reported by Brennan.

Thanks for any help you may offer. We're all after the truth.
stillsaddened

Los Angeles, CA

#51 Aug 12, 2016
Didn't Pam Archuleta state in her book that she was the one with JonBenet at the parade? And that Patsy was not in fact present?
candy

East Lansing, MI

#52 Aug 13, 2016
@stillsaddened: Pam Archuletta didn't write any book on this case that I heard of.

The "hot chocolate man" was on the Peter Boyles show and he SAW Patsy there. When he offered a SHIVERING JonBenet some hot chocolate because PATSY RAMSEY would not let her wear a coat in the FREEZING weather because she was "on display", PATSY RAMSEY shooed him away, saying she was fine.
stillsaddened

Los Angeles, CA

#53 Aug 13, 2016
candy wrote:
@stillsaddened: Pam Archuletta didn't write any book on this case that I heard of.

The "hot chocolate man" was on the Peter Boyles show and he SAW Patsy there. When he offered a SHIVERING JonBenet some hot chocolate because PATSY RAMSEY would not let her wear a coat in the FREEZING weather because she was "on display", PATSY RAMSEY shooed him away, saying she was fine.
She did write a book. What The Pilots Wife Knew.

It's a little strange, but in it she states that she was the one with JonBenet on the parade and that Patsy was not present. Think she may have even been in New York, but I am not sure.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#54 Aug 13, 2016
@stillsaddened: Thank you for letting me know about this book. I never heard of it before now. Perhaps you would post the quote she made.

I believe the man who called into the Peter Boyles show about the incident he is talking about.
stillsaddened

Los Angeles, CA

#55 Aug 13, 2016
candy wrote:
@stillsaddened: Thank you for letting me know about this book. I never heard of it before now. Perhaps you would post the quote she made.

I believe the man who called into the Peter Boyles show about the incident he is talking about.
Lemme see if I can dig it up and I'll post it.

It's a shame Peter didn't ask more questions or let that guy speak before he went on one of his diatribes. There's so many questions that could be asked of that guy. I believe him too, I just wonder if he confused Patsy for Nedra or even for Pam Archuleta.

More soon, if I can find it.
karmakameleon

Touchet, WA

#56 Sep 4, 2016
BrotherMoon wrote:
Blasting With Boyles – I’ll Be Back
And so, as I was saying on the radio before I was abruptly interrupted. It’s not much of a secret in Denver, Colorado, or across the United States of America, or all the ships at sea as we go to press because I made national news. I got canned, tapped out, knocked out, booted, clipped, excused, asked to leave, dumped,“Bain Capitaled”(Bain Capital is the owner of Clear Channel radio for those who don’t know). Bain is now fondly known as the “Mack the Knife” corporation with a pink slip. Recently across America, Bain Capital has made more hits than the mafia.
So as I was saying, they asked me to go home like I was the kid who drew the picture of the handgun in the third grade. I had the inexcusable behavior of grabbing a lifelong friend and co-worker, who I really do see as a son, by the lanyard. I do own this, I did this; I grabbed his lanyard and pulled him to me. That act has been declared by Bain as workplace violence. Does anyone have any idea how much sadness Bain Capital, as a venture capitalist firm, has brought to the world? The destruction of families, family incomes, housing losses and everything that goes with it. These people now have the right to deem me as reportedly violent.
The producer who I grabbed and I had breakfast together the next morning at Zaidy’s. He was also not allowed back in the building. If I was the kid who drew the gun, he pretended he was a superhero. And thus that part of the story ends.
It took Bain Capital 10 days to decide my fate, and I now believe that they were waiting for my contract to expire.(And remember from The Godfather, Tessio was always smarter — I was Luca Brasi and got to sleep with the fishes). I had been in negotiations about my contract, which happened to expire a week after the incident, and they were trying to hand me a drastic reduction in pay. The day my contract expired I received a phone call from a fellow employee who had been told by one of the top senior supervisors at Clear Channel that I was about to be brought back that day to sign papers and go back to the job on Monday morning.
Then after waiting three hours for that phone call that never came I called the senior supervisor’s cell phone. He did not answer his phone so I left him a message and right before end of business on Friday he sent me a simple text message that read,“Everything is on hold until Monday.”
And then of course everything went black. On that Friday night at midnight my contract expired and on the next Monday afternoon I got a phone call to go into the lobby of Clear Channel and waited there to be escorted to the basement where I was fired after 26 years with zero severance pay and a month’s health benefits. I was told that if I filed for unemployment it would be denied because I was fired for workplace violence. That was the last I’ve ever heard from Clear Channel.
As Kurt Vonnegut said,“And so it goes.” I requested that no one walk me out of the building and the HR woman who I absolutely love walked with me to my car and I gave her my pass so I could never re-enter the building. I was never allowed to go back to my desk to pick up anything that was mine. Instead Bain Channel boxed up everything and sent it to my house. Unbelievable and a very unnecessary expense.
Peter, I have appreciated many things you have exposed on your radio program. I do not know you personally and therefore can't fully take the measure of who you truly are, but I get the sense you like to take on the privileged class, and be a voice and advocate for those who are NOT privileged.
karmakameleon

Touchet, WA

#57 Sep 4, 2016
To continue, BrotherMoon Peter, Somehow, your wires got crossed in the Jonbenet Ramsey case--I was horrified that you would go beyond saying you had concerns about the parents and even listing the concerns, and take the position that they were absolutely guilty despite the evidence you cited not supporting that level of confidence, and despite evidence from even more credible sources (top detective for cold cases in Colorado) that at best for you, cast doubts on your assertion, and at worst, eliminated it as a likely conclusion. There is a special place in hell for ANYBODY that would declare a guilty verdict on a couple in their position without absolutely unassailable proof. To pile on those suffering one of life's worst nightmares--the death of your child, particularly when the mother was additionally suffering terminal ovarian cancer--is inviting a horrible karma that I pray you do not suffer, . If you have reeled back some of your assertions since I quit listening to you, good for you. If you have apologized and asked for forgiveness--better.
karmakameleon

Touchet, WA

#58 Sep 4, 2016
My message to Peter Boyles:

The best information on this case for me was a Westword article going over all the likely suspects with apparently some input from the top officer in Colorado for solving cold cases. There were at least 2 suspects that were markedly more plausible than the parents.

The most likely damning and credible scenario for the parents was that there had been an accidental death, possibly from Burke the son, and they attempted to cover it up. Less credible (but possible) and more damning would have been an act of anger or discipline gone wrong leading to the cover-up. Anybody who would believe anything more sinister is unhinged, frankly.

If one of these turned out to be true, I would STILL have rather had the case remain unsolved than take the chance of being a part of an even more unspeakable horror and evil--using one's public forum to pile on innocent parents grieving one of lifes worst tragedies--the death of a child (I have had to observe this up close this twice in the last couple of years).

Your eagerness to take on the privileged and to make sure that they do not have an unfair advantage, and your eagerness to be the guy who saw the truth of this case first, I think blinded you to how truly evil this was. I believe you have invited a horrible karma on yourself, and that there is a special place in hell for those who would inflict this kind of pain. Both instincts--envy/resentment, and pride/puffery have been proscribed by the 10 commandments for a reason, and at least one of them is a mortal sin.

If, since I have quit listening to you, you have reeled back some of your assertions--good. If you have apologized--better. If you have asked forgiveness--best.

I truly hope you take the path of a good person and reap those benefits rather than the the karma earned by your initial, widely broadcast pronouncements.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#59 Sep 4, 2016
@Karma: Do you have any idea how many people the Ramseys have named as "suspects" in this case, NONE of whom have ever been indicted by a grand jury like THEY were? They have named FOUR different people this year alone, in articles THEY $old to the tabloids, like they $old Burke Ramsey's 1998 interview NUMEROUS TIMES.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#60 Sep 4, 2016
Re" "Karma" even existing. To me, it doesn't. Dictator Robert Mugabe turned 92 this year, laughing again at rumors of his demise. He's been running Zimbabwe into the ground since 1980. Fidel Castro is 90 too, nothing has ever happened to him in the 50 plus years he ran Cuba into the ground.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#61 Sep 4, 2016
Karma never came for Charlie Manson. He's still around, 50 years after the crimes he masterminded, living to a ripe old age in prison. So is Jeffrey MacDonald, who killed his entire family. He gets TV time to say how innocent he is, and no INTRUDER has ever been found that he claims, killed his entire family.

Karma never came for Drew Peterson either. Never mind that his wife Kathleen Savio wrote to numerous people, including a top investigative reporter in Chicago, that if anything happened to her, Drew did it. NO, it wasn't until ANOTHER wife of his went "missing" that the integrity of the criminal justice system in Illinois was at stake, and they had to find a prosecutor that WASN'T hiding under his desk, to avoid doing anything about Drew Peterson to do something. And he had to move heaven and earth to put the guilty murderer in prison, after which, Drew tried to pay him back by trying to have him killed.

INDIVIDUAL HUMAN BEINGS create Justice, and it's not easy. It's easier to do NOTHING, and let guilty people walk, after which "karma" never "gets" them.
Sheriff Wydell

Rutland, VT

#62 Sep 4, 2016
candy wrote:
Karma never came for Charlie Manson. He's still around, 50 years after the crimes he masterminded, living to a ripe old age in prison. So is Jeffrey MacDonald, who killed his entire family. He gets TV time to say how innocent he is, and no INTRUDER has ever been found that he claims, killed his entire family.

Karma never came for Drew Peterson either. Never mind that his wife Kathleen Savio wrote to numerous people, including a top investigative reporter in Chicago, that if anything happened to her, Drew did it. NO, it wasn't until ANOTHER wife of his went "missing" that the integrity of the criminal justice system in Illinois was at stake, and they had to find a prosecutor that WASN'T hiding under his desk, to avoid doing anything about Drew Peterson to do something. And he had to move heaven and earth to put the guilty murderer in prison, after which, Drew tried to pay him back by trying to have him killed.

INDIVIDUAL HUMAN BEINGS create Justice, and it's not easy. It's easier to do NOTHING, and let guilty people walk, after which "karma" never "gets" them.
If this WERE a just world, Jonbenet would be alive and happy. And other people would be lying in a dark basement with THEIR brains bashed in.

Since: Apr 16

Phoenix, AZ

#63 Sep 4, 2016
candy wrote:
I was always disturbed that current DA Stan Garnett never appeared on Boyles show, despite Boyles asking him several times to be a guest on his show. Yesterday, I found this quote from Stan Garnett, then a lawyer in Denver, about Patrick Burke, Patsy Ramsey's lawyer:

"Pat is the kind of person you would hire if you had a family crisis,'' said Stan Garnett, a Denver lawyer.

http://m.rockymountainnews.com/news/1997/jan/...

This, on top of a campaign contribution Patrick Burke made to Garnett's 2012 re-election campaign (where he ran unopposed and didn't need any campaign contributions) make me wonder about Stan Garnett's "friendship" with Patsy Ramsey's lawyer. And if you think those things don't matter, read Steve Thomas's book and listen to all of Peter Boyles radio shows on this case since 1996.
Redo part of your statement Candy...John Mark Karr wasn't arrested in 1996, it was 2006

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