It always leads back to Burke
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#70 Feb 28, 2012
JimmyWells wrote:
Or in this case. Garland-Lined the railing of the spiral staircase. <quoted text>
So what?

Since: Jan 10

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#71 Feb 28, 2012
"So let's dance"-Caddyshack
BrotherMoon wrote:
<quoted text>
So what?
BrotherMoon

Denver, CO

#72 Feb 28, 2012
JimmyGod wrote:
"So let's dance"-Caddyshack<quot ed text>
Post the evidence of John's involvement. I need a laugh.

Since: Jan 10

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#73 Feb 28, 2012
No do your own homework.
BrotherMoon wrote:
<quoted text>
Post the evidence of John's involvement. I need a laugh.

Since: Jan 10

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#74 Feb 28, 2012
If you need a laugh look between your legs.
BrotherMoon wrote:
<quoted text>
Post the evidence of John's involvement. I need a laugh.
M Michigan

Denver, CO

#75 Feb 28, 2012
JimmyGod wrote:
If you need a laugh look between your legs. <quoted text>
7th grade, maybe 9th grade dropout community center pickup game smack.

Go upstairs and ask mommy to post evidence John was involved.

Since: Jan 10

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#76 Feb 28, 2012
Don't deflect, the shoe fits. I have a friend that is small in the pants as well. I can hook you two up if you wanna start a support group. The good thing is that you could never be a suspect in this case because of the lack of evidence of sexual assault.
M Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
7th grade, maybe 9th grade dropout community center pickup game smack.
Go upstairs and ask mommy to post evidence John was involved.

Since: Jan 12

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#78 Feb 29, 2012
I think the bat was used, and I think the blow was calculated and intentional. I do not believe Burke delivered the skull crushing blow. I also believe it came after or during the strangulation.

Since: Feb 12

Lihue, HI

#79 Feb 29, 2012
Mama2JML wrote:
I think the bat was used, and I think the blow was calculated and intentional. I do not believe Burke delivered the skull crushing blow. I also believe it came after or during the strangulation.
Hi Mama2,
Since the medical examiner cannot determine which came first, the head blow or the strangulation, all guesses are possible, and your guess is as good as mine.

However, I think the head blow came first, and the strangulation after. While the strangulation was the direct cause of death, determined by the coroner, I think they thought JB was already dead when they strangled her.
CC

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#80 Feb 29, 2012
Bakatari wrote:
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Hi Mama2,
Since the medical examiner cannot determine which came first, the head blow or the strangulation, all guesses are possible, and your guess is as good as mine.
However, I think the head blow came first, and the strangulation after. While the strangulation was the direct cause of death, determined by the coroner, I think they thought JB was already dead when they strangled her.
CC
Please post the evidence of "they". Who beside Patsy did it? What is the evidence?

Also, if the head blow came first why no external swelling, why so little internal bleeding and swelling? If the head blow came first then there would have been a period of time for the staging to have been conceived, planned and carried out, enough time for the above to have developed.

Since: May 11

Seattle, WA

#81 Feb 29, 2012
Bakatari wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Mama2,
Since the medical examiner cannot determine which came first, the head blow or the strangulation, all guesses are possible, and your guess is as good as mine.
However, I think the head blow came first, and the strangulation after. While the strangulation was the direct cause of death, determined by the coroner, I think they thought JB was already dead when they strangled her.
CC
I think it was death by porcelain..I think the headwound came from the corner of the sink or tub. The headblow was an accident IMO, meaning she was pushed into the bathroom and accidentally hit her head on the tub. That would make a very loud thump and whomever pushed her would know then and there JB was a gonner.
There was talk early on that the strangulation/headblow came within 20 minutes of eachother..I believe the strangulation came after the headblow and it was done as a mercy act for BOTH JBR and Patsy. Patsy couldn't live with a braindead child, and JB would surely be braindead or forever 'challenged'. That wouldn't do in the world of tiaras and gowns, would it?
I believe that 911 wasn't called after the accident because someone in that house had been molesting the child and would be destroyed once JB got to the ER. I believe that same person rolled up his sleeves and went to work under the guise of helping Patsy, leading her to believe JBR was irreparably damaged and better off dead and that Patsy would go down for abuse.
If not for the previous molestation, I believe this never would have happened..including the events that lead to the headblow. I think JB was trying Patsy's patience that holiday because she was being molested and started to act out.

BrotherMoon

“Sandy Stranger killed JonBenet”

Since: Jan 08

Not Boulder, Co.

#82 Feb 29, 2012
realTopaz wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it was death by porcelain..I think the headwound came from the corner of the sink or tub. The headblow was an accident IMO, meaning she was pushed into the bathroom and accidentally hit her head on the tub. That would make a very loud thump and whomever pushed her would know then and there JB was a gonner.
There was talk early on that the strangulation/headblow came within 20 minutes of eachother..I believe the strangulation came after the headblow and it was done as a mercy act for BOTH JBR and Patsy. Patsy couldn't live with a braindead child, and JB would surely be braindead or forever 'challenged'. That wouldn't do in the world of tiaras and gowns, would it?
I believe that 911 wasn't called after the accident because someone in that house had been molesting the child and would be destroyed once JB got to the ER. I believe that same person rolled up his sleeves and went to work under the guise of helping Patsy, leading her to believe JBR was irreparably damaged and better off dead and that Patsy would go down for abuse.
If not for the previous molestation, I believe this never would have happened..including the events that lead to the headblow. I think JB was trying Patsy's patience that holiday because she was being molested and started to act out.
There is no evidence to support any of this. Try posting some.

Since: Jul 10

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#83 Feb 29, 2012
Previous molestation would never have been discovered in the ER. It is not routine to give pelvic exams to little girls brought to hospital with a head injury. That type of exam requires sedation and would only be considered if there was gross indication of genital injury like bleeding.

Since: May 11

Seattle, WA

#84 Feb 29, 2012
moonjack wrote:
Previous molestation would never have been discovered in the ER. It is not routine to give pelvic exams to little girls brought to hospital with a head injury. That type of exam requires sedation and would only be considered if there was gross indication of genital injury like bleeding.
It may not be routine to give a pelvic exam for a head wound, but they would take her clothes off and see the scrapes and bruises mentioned in the autopsy and possibly suspect abuse. From there, they'd examine her! And the child could possibly die, which would result in an autopsy that would show abuse.
Dr Wecht made the same point in his book. He said they WOULD examine her in the ER, but maybe you know more than he does about ERs because he's just a pathologist.
Randallism

Dayton, OH

#87 Feb 22, 2014
I think Burke did it. Circumstantial evidence.

6 year old girl dresses and performs in adult like pageants.
Older brother Burke has access to dad's extensive porn collection from his frequent business trips to Denmark. In Denmark they allow animal abuse for human sexual pleasure!!!
The two children play house unlike any other children every ventured.
Bruke plays sex games with Jonbonet. He ties her up. Violates her vagina with a stick. Etc. Mom and Dad conspire a cover up story to protect young Bruke.

Think of the Kennedy clan!
Just Wondering

Sophia, WV

#88 Feb 24, 2014
Randallism wrote:
I think Burke did it. Circumstantial evidence.
6 year old girl dresses and performs in adult like pageants.
Older brother Burke has access to dad's extensive porn collection from his frequent business trips to Denmark. In Denmark they allow animal abuse for human sexual pleasure!!!
The two children play house unlike any other children every ventured.
Bruke plays sex games with Jonbonet. He ties her up. Violates her vagina with a stick. Etc. Mom and Dad conspire a cover up story to protect young Bruke.
Think of the Kennedy clan!
Perhaps that's why they could not ascertain which caused the death--the strangulation or the head injury. Had Patsy come upon the two in this situation, she could have startled them or swung out at them causing Jonbenet to lose her balance and strike her head on something.

Had Patsy felt she caused the fall, and had she felt it her fault that this could happen under her roof--then I think she would have had no problem writing the ransom note and covering for Burke.

I personally know a woman whose YOUNG teenage son impregnated his VERY YOUNG--11 year old sister. The mother sent him away to live with relatives, the baby from the union was adopted out, and now the mother is hoping that her son can return to their home and live with the family again--and, yes, that daughter is still underage and living at home. This was a Christian home, also, mind you.

But if John were involved in porn--though I have seen no evidence of this--then he could just as easily have been the molester/murderer.

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#89 Feb 24, 2014
Hi JW,

There have been many instances of very young boys behaving in inappropriate sexual ways with other young children, and yes, including rape.

I have personally never believed that John wash her molester nor do I personally feel John had any attraction to children whatsoever. John was a womanizer and whether he liked ADULT porn or not has nothing IMO to do with the crime or his sexual tastes/preferences.

Personally, I think John neither liked nor was comfortable being around young children. I think he ran out of the oohing and ahhhing stages long ago, if he ever had that sort of warm and fuzzy in him ever, which I don't think he did. I think he found children just to be kids that the women dealt with primarily until they were old enough for him to interact with without frustration and without the need for patience and tolerance

I think any "damage" done to JBR was done by Burke and subsequently staged at the crime scene further to protect him and to try to hide the past
Enght

Richmond, KY

#90 Feb 28, 2014
I think they covered up what Burke done too. I know if it was my daughter I would have done exactly what the note said, First thing they did were call 911, that seems odd to me
Just Wondering

Sophia, WV

#93 Mar 1, 2014
Enght wrote:
I think they covered up what Burke done too. I know if it was my daughter I would have done exactly what the note said, First thing they did were call 911, that seems odd to me
They also got Burke out of the house as quickly as possible that morning. Would you send your son outside your home if you honestly thought there was a small foreign faction threatening your family? Would you want your grown children traveling to Colorado to meet up with you--not knowing who might be lurking between the home and their flight? Me? I would have wanted Burke within my sight that day and until the kidnapper/murderer was found and convicted. And I would have warned my grown children to stay clear of the area, as well.

Since: Mar 08

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#94 Mar 14, 2014
candy wrote:
Burke testified before the grand jury, unlike his parents. Under Colorado law, if someone is going to testify before the grand jury as a witness, you HAVE TO give them ALL evidence you have against them, which HAPPENED with Burke. If he had been a suspect, that would not have happened, as they did not call the Scams.
My understanding is that the Ramseys agreed to their 2000 interviews on the condition that they not be called before the grand jury. The fact that Burke did testify tells me that they were not concerned about him having knowledge of the crime or the coverup. Wouldn't they have included him in the deal otherwise?.

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