#743 Jun 10, 2011
It was acceptable for Patsy to abuse JonBenet by bleaching her hair, to cause her distress, to actually physically harm her small body to the point she had chronic sinus problems and the autopsy showed an irregularity of the trachea; likely both from the chemical exposure.
JonBenet likely wouldn't sit on a toilet to perform the most basic of functions because Patsy sat her there to bleach her hair...
If it was acceptable for Patsy to harm JonBenet with such a simple violation of her being, the quiet violence of bleaching her hair; Burke would have had no problem behaving in a similar manner. No problem harming JonBenet, hitting her, causing her to scream out. Children learn from their parents. Children immitate their parents.
For all that claim bleaching the hair of a 4-6 year old is harmless fun please post a video link.
#744 Jun 12, 2011
Don't start with the last post.
Go back to the beginning, look for the root of the issue.
There are over 600 posts and to actually read them all will take well over an hour (we'll know if you cheat).
#746 Jul 2, 2011
Here's a cold case that took 53 years to crack. If I were John or Burke Ramsey I'd spend my life looking over my shoulder for police or the FBI, I think they do... They've never been afraid of the killer; rather the media and LE. Burke must have been shaking in his boots when investigators showed up at his door to see if he wanted to talk.
... and the case was solved by something as innocent sounding as an unused train ticket.
#753 Oct 26, 2011
If JonBenet was ritually abused by Patsy with the hair coloring which I firmly believe it would have shown up in JonBenet's behavior. It likely did with the toileting issues. That become one thing JonBenet could control.
But the abuse likely also made JonBenet very aggressive, given her anger issues.
I don't think Burke struck her out of the blue. He was defending himself against this tortured little soul.
#754 Oct 26, 2011
You are driftng without an anchor, without a rudder.
#755 Oct 26, 2011
Patsy wouldn't cover-up for an intruder, John wouldn't have covered for an intruder, but they would have covered-up and staged the hoax kidnapping with a faux garrote to protect Burke. They didnt protect him when JonBenet was alive, the least they can do is protect him after the kids bickered, ending tragically in her death.
You're the one into the psychosis issues of Patsy but you fail to see the psychological damage that did to JonBenet. You're not going to have well adjusted children developing and meeting the multifaceted goals of human growth with a mom that lives on another planet.
If you have a doctor as a friend or neighbor ask her about the symptoms that would present if an unconscious unresponsive child with no visible head trauma arrived in the ER. Ask what the differential diagnosis would be. One of them is a broken neck.
#758 Oct 26, 2011
The neck ligature was a suspending device not a strangling device. The wrist ligatures were a suspending device not a binding device. The ransom note was a creative work of fictional literature not a diversion.
There was no cover-up.
There is no evidence that John was involved in any way. Other than the fingerprints on the bowl there is no evidence that Burke was involved in any way.
#759 Oct 26, 2011
I should say that the shirt fibers on the body incriminate John.
#760 Oct 26, 2011
This matter has been discussed on this topix forum before now. Dr. Henry Lee 'magically' found incriminating fibers against the Ramseys just before the Boulder police were due to make a presentation of their so-called evidence against the Ramseys.
The Ramseys were never asked for the clothes with those so-called incriminating fibers until about a year after the murder which Steve Thgomas testified in his deposition was a mistake. This is from a 2002 Larry King Live TV show about that matter:
"KING: And how, Lin were they -- would you go out and test every red jacket ever made?
WOOD: No, no -- but let me make a couple of points. Number one, police interrogations do not have to be fair, and they don't have to be truthful. So when they ask a question and say they've got evidence that says that fibers from her jacket appear to be consistent with fibers found in the paint tray, that may or may not be true.
I know they asked John Ramsey about fibers during his interrogation, and I know for a fact that the information was not true in terms of the location of those fibers.
Patsy was wearing a red and black and gray jacket, as I recall, and there were red fibers alleged to have been found on the duct tape, and on Jon Benet's body and in the paint tray.
That's what they say.
There were no black fibers. There were no gray fibers. We know that there are brown fibers that have never been sourced. We know that there are blue fibers that have never been sourced.
So the fiber evidence is, I think, extremely weak and besides, she lived in the home. She put Jon Benet to bed that night. There's any one of many innocent explanations for why the fibers might be consistent with something Patsy was wearing.
KING: Now concerning John's clothing fibers. They say there's evidence of fibers from John's clothing on Jon Benet. Here is the father's response.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Ramsey, it is our belief, based on forensic testing that there are hairs that are associated -- that the source is the collared black shirt that you sent to us that are found in your daughter's underpants, and I want to refute...
J. RAMSEY: Bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I don't believe that. I don't buy it. If you're trying to disgrace my relationship with my daughter...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Ramsey, I'm not trying to...
J. RAMSEY: Well, I don't believe it. That's ridiculous.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think you are too, Bruce. Let's move on. Why don't you move on.
J. RAMSEY: That's disgusting.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I am not.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, you are.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's move to something else, maybe.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's move to another topic.
J. RAMSEY: The question is, how did fibers of your shirt get in your daughter's underwear? I say that is not possible. I don't believe it. That's ridiculous.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KING: So you're saying police invent things to try to get respondents to respond?
WOOD: That was invented. We know that there were black fibers found, they claim, but there were no black fibers found in the areas of Jon Benet's underwear, as claimed in that question. The Boulder Police Department did not even ask for the Ramseys to provide the department with the clothes they were wearing the night of Jon Benet's murder for over one year. They couldn't even remember what they had worn. They had to go back and look at photographs to try and reconstruct what they wore that night."
#761 Oct 26, 2011
If the body had been suspended there would have been visible tisue damage from the traction.
If John knew nothing he would not have shooed the police away from talking with Burke. He himself would have been asking Burke hundreds of questions, all three would have been motor mouths; who they'd seen the days before; if anyone, phone calls to the house, who'd been around the house or neighborhood, if JonBenet had talked about anyone bothering her, asking questions about the family, who was at the neighbors house he played with Christmas day, John would have been asking about everyone from the pizza delivery boy to the school janitor. There would have been hours of questions. He asked Burke nothing. The Ramseys actions have been carefully timed from the 911 call and there was no interaction where John spoke with Burke about where his sister was. Likewise Burke didn't ask any questions. All three must have known she was laying dead in the basement.
One of the biggest legal mistakes was made when the police accepted as fact John saying Burke didn't know anything. Nobody can ever bear witness for what another person knows, even if it is only a child.
#762 Oct 27, 2011
Wrong on all counts.
#763 Oct 28, 2011
Where is the tissue damage that would occur if she had been suspended? Her wrists would have shown severe discoloration from the pressure. Her neck would have been dislocated with far more damage to the internal structures of the neck.
I've never read a single professional opinion this was a crime premeditated by Patsy, and multiple scenarios have been presented. You are the only one with the murdered on purpose theory and I don't think you have any legal or medical qualifications. At least the views that differ from your psychotic Patsy phenomenon come from real people with credentials.
If it were even remotely plausible, other people, hoards of them would agree.
#764 Oct 28, 2011
The Ramsey are good people.
DNA will proved who did this.
#765 Oct 28, 2011
Accidents happen to good and bad people on an equal basis.
Evidence suggests JonBenet suffered her massive hidden brain injury accidentally at the hands of Burke and the parents tried to sanitize everything by staging the most ridiculous hoaxed kidnapping in history.
The DNA has never been dated to having bee deposited when Jonbenet died. It was degraded and likely been there a while.
Who's underpants was she wearing? They were a size 12 yet she was a size 6. They said Wednesday yet the rest of the set weren't found in the home.
#767 Nov 7, 2011
BURKE DID IT
How do you know I'm off base, the 'crime' has never been solved. JonBenet is rotting away 6 feet under while her family does nothing to look for a killer. They do not seek vengeance or retribution as though they want the killer to be able to get on with his life. Neither John nor Burke Ramsey has ever taken a polygraph from Law Enforcement.
BURKE DID IT
The parents covered it up for him... just like Patsy covering up that brown hair with bleach on a 4 year old baby. Sitting her on the toilet to do it and then wondering why her kid didnt crap on the potty like all the others.
BURKE DID IT
The DA has a legal obligation to never expose what happened, to protect the anonymity of the minor responsible for what happened. To the extent they cant charge the parents with lesser crimes of conspiracy. Its a catch 22 situation.
BURKE DID IT
Why didnt John ask Burke anything when the parents supposedly woke up and found JonBenet missing? Didnt ask him if JonBenet had said somebody was bothering her, didnt ask if the pizza delivery man gave her a kiss and hug, didnt ask if the school janitor followed her around, didnt ask if hed seen the church pastor come out of the bathroom with her, or the neighbors uncle wanted to play funny games?
BURKE DID IT
John Ramsey didnt even ask Burke if any adults had tried to approach him in an inappropriate manner. John asked Burke nothing yet told police Burke knew nothing. John lied; he didnt know what Burke might have known. Johns movements are well documented with a timeline from the 911 call onward and he never spent time with Burke pursuing any avenue of questioning to get his kidnapped daughter back. The only reason that could possible have happened was if all were well aware there was a corpse hidden in the house and the kidnapping was a hoax.
BURKE DID IT
They had all night to plan, all night to talk and ask questions and work out the situation. All night long to deflect suspicion with a dump job.
BURKE DID IT
JonBenet was a victim of Patsys staging well before she was dead. It may be that Burke killed her in self-defense. JonBenet was developmentally delayed and would have had a host of behavioral issues from what Patsy did to her.
BURKE DID IT
I think he bashed in her head but her parents thought she had a broken neck, hence the faux garrote. This is not something Ive posted about until this year. I had no idea the symptoms would be basically the same for a catastrophic brain injury as a broken neck with pupils fixed and dilated and absolutely no response to pain or stimuli, perhaps that's why the flashlight was out.
#769 Nov 7, 2011
Did Burke get a new set of golf clubs for Christmas? There's a crime scene picture of the basement with a brand new bag complete with product pamphlet attached to the front and a tag with a face like Michael Jordan. It even has a big purple gift bow. How did it get put in the basement so quickly and who put it there?
#772 Nov 9, 2011
You must have my posts confused with somebody else. I claim Burke accidentally killed his little sister and the parents covered it up and it snowballed out of control. The kids were just bickering but its likely JonBenet had an aggressive and angry personality that fueled whatever happened. Burke may have been defending himself. Seems hed have an interest in solving JonBenets death and helping other victims if it were otherwise.
Im not accusing Patsy of murder, just of being uneducated and stupid to bleach the hair of such a young child... pretty dumb to sit a 4 year old on the toilet to emotionally torture a tiny developing ego and self image then expect her to be toilet trained like all the other kids. Toilet training is a complicated experience of civilization, read Freud. Its a milestone in human development, done to please mommy because she loves you unconditionally. Patsy did not love JonBenet unconditionally as she was. She loved her as a blond not a brunette.
Maybe Patsy didnt want JonBenet to learn to read because she would have seen the warnings on the hair care kits they were not safe for use on children and to use them in a well-ventilated room.
And Patsy was ostentatious, you know flashy; not a crime at all, some people like that, but it can blind you of what's really there...
If my posts and theories bother you just ignore them, scroll by. Post your own theories on what you think happened in this dYFSsfUNctiLaA fmaiYl.
Since: Sep 11
Germiston, South Africa
#773 Nov 11, 2011
This post is disgusting. Why are you on a mission to destroy Burke, Pinker? What has he ever done to you?
I don't believe you care one bit about JonBenet. If you did, you wouldn't callously and disrespectfully speak of her "rotting away 6 feet under". IMO you pretend to care about her because it gives you a reason to slander her family, especially Patsy and Burke and spread propaganda about them.
“May you all come home”
Since: Mar 07
safely Bless you all
#774 Nov 11, 2011
Your posts about the other families with children are disgusting. They are as cleared as the Ramseys. Have you no shame hypocrite
There are still living children who hurt when you throw the names out of their parents.
Hypocrite; stop your incessant whining and pretense of caring
#780 Nov 15, 2011
If the powers that be have finally caught up with the Mega Football money involved in covering up the Penn State sex abuse of children there is a glimmer of hope the truth of JonBenet's death will be exposed.
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