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I am waiting for at least some of the IDIs to admit they were mistaken.

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Since: Feb 12

Honolulu, HI

#1 Feb 6, 2013
IF I was an IDI, I would be very angry with the latest news on the Ramsey case. Being that they bought into the deception by Hunter, Lacy, Smit, Robeson, Wood, and the Ramseys themselves.

So far, I haven't seen a single IDI that admits he/she was mistaken, or mis-informed.

How about it? A LOT of lies have been uncovered so far, and I am willing to bet that we will see more exposing for these lies.

While it is difficult to believe that some parents will actually abuse their child as in the Ramsey case, for an intruder or intruders to "work" on Christmas Day, in a place of very low crime to murder a 6 year old is absolutely frivolous to believe.

Ir is my opinion, that the recent developments in this case only shows the corruption and dishonesty by the DA, police, and Ramsey attorneys.
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Passion

Marrakech, Morocco

#2 Feb 6, 2013
Never was an IDI and never felt there was someone outside scamseys who commit that really commit that horrific crime , IMHO someone who is not involved in the crime would be looking to get some justice to that poor little girl instead he is getting more blood money from using jonbenet 's death to get more inflame , was always about them and never about the daughter who got abused, murdered and in the same house . Lou smith knew something but helped hide the truth as he can't bite the hand that fed him it was never an intruder there that night .

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Since: Mar 07

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#3 Feb 6, 2013
Hi CC,

I fear you will be waiting a VERY long time LOL

You will not find any IDI willing to admit anything of the sort that you are hinting at.

There will be every and any excuse as to why Hunter was doing the right thing and the topic will change as you can see just by perusing the threads about it; everything from the DNA to pedophile rings. Everything but the topic at hand

I truly believe that if a video surfaced of the actual events of that night and it was video of any one of the RDI scenarios, the IDI would come out and claim trick photography LOL

ANYONE but a Ramsey

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#4 Feb 6, 2013
And you won't!

The good news is: The IDI are at the local parlor having a sparkling glass of kool-aid and light refreshments.

The bad news is: Nothing that has been revealed is anything they will believe, so they will return to the 'parlor' daily for the kool-aid as opposed to dealing with reality.
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candy

East Lansing, MI

#5 Feb 6, 2013
Bakatari wrote:
IF I was an IDI, I would be very angry with the latest news on the Ramsey case. Being that they bought into the deception by Hunter, Lacy, Smit, Robeson, Wood, and the Ramseys themselves.
So far, I haven't seen a single IDI that admits he/she was mistaken, or mis-informed.
How about it? A LOT of lies have been uncovered so far, and I am willing to bet that we will see more exposing for these lies.
While it is difficult to believe that some parents will actually abuse their child as in the Ramsey case, for an intruder or intruders to "work" on Christmas Day, in a place of very low crime to murder a 6 year old is absolutely frivolous to believe.
Ir is my opinion, that the recent developments in this case only shows the corruption and dishonesty by the DA, police, and Ramsey attorneys.
CC
CC
That's all true CC, but you'll be Waiting for Godot to hear any of them admit they were hoodwinked by Team Scamsey for the last 16 years. From the cognitive dissonance theory, the true believers REMAIN true believers. THEY MODIFY, they'll do what Lin Wood's been doing ARROGANTLY saying the grand jury "WAS CONFUSED" and only needed GOOD WHITE CHRISTIANS John and Patsy to have EXPLAINED the whole situation to them by testifying before the grand jury.

WAY, WAY worse than the poor posters are the AWFUL PRO SCAM JOURNALISTS who have peddled the Scams crockumentaries FOR YEARS. Erin Moriarty, Katie Couric, PAULA WOODWARD, Aphrodite Jones, ALL WOMEN, Tracey and Anderson Cooper. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU. The public is less informed with their crocks that we took apart in real time so the public would know fact from fiction.
Anti-K

Grande Prairie, Canada

#6 Feb 6, 2013
What is it that you’re waiting for IDI to admit they were wrong about? That the grand jury voted to indict? I can’t remember ever arguing that they didn’t. But, if I ever did, then I guess I was wrong!

Feel better?
:)
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AK
candy

East Lansing, MI

#7 Feb 6, 2013
You won't hear them being puzzled by how fast the Christian mask DROPPED WITH John Ramsey's "just more drama" ARROGANCE.
passion

Marrakech, Morocco

#8 Feb 6, 2013
Yes candy, he was always arrogant , Atlanta is our home and we feel safer there , and I had to call my pilot ,30 Min after finding my daughter being bludgeoned in the basement of our home, and send Burke to the white,instead of him being under the watchful eye of the police, very self centred . saw lots of you-tube interviews of him and, I never trust a word he said, his body language was very deceiving , no innocent father would say that if he really cares about truth of his murdered daughter . what also made me more suspicious about him IMHO, is that he was distancing himself from the burlesque show of his daughter not attending it and only attending the talent bit , which i think that he was incestuous and that what got pasty outraged that night . only my gut feeling .

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#9 Feb 7, 2013
candy wrote:
You won't hear them being puzzled by how fast the Christian mask DROPPED WITH John Ramsey's "just more drama" ARROGANCE.
I'm sure there are REALLY "good" Christians all over the world who cringe every time The Ramseys are called good Christians!
passion

Marrakech, Morocco

#10 Feb 7, 2013
They are good christians when it worked for them , and help keep people away from thinking what these horrible couple did to their daughter ,and with the help of another christian in lou smith help their case to remain where it is now ,this case is really not about religion or belief, and also its not about the couple has never had any history of abuse towards their kids .there is always first time for everything ,and i believe the intruder is very saint in this case .

Since: Feb 12

Honolulu, HI

#11 Feb 7, 2013
Anti-K wrote:
What is it that you’re waiting for IDI to admit they were wrong about? That the grand jury voted to indict? I can’t remember ever arguing that they didn’t. But, if I ever did, then I guess I was wrong!
Feel better?
:)
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AK
Hi AK,
The GJ indictment, along with the deceiving by Alex Hunter, Lou Smit, Lin Wood, Mary Lacy, and the Ramsey parents should be enough to convince you, that you bit on the Ramsey bait, hook, line, and sinker. In other words, you have been had.

Now, that you should have seen the distortions of the facts by those involved with the murder and investigations, you should have realized that the police observation of no footprints in the snow early in the morning was accurate, and that there was no intruder.

So, the GJ indicted? There is nothing big about it, EXCEPT for the FACT that WE didn't know the outcome of the GJ until now, BECAUSE Alex Hunter deceived the public with his statements. This makes Mary Lacy look very foolish or stupid, or both, and it SHOULD make the IDIs realize they have been fooled.

CC

Since: Feb 12

Honolulu, HI

#12 Feb 7, 2013
Hi Capricorn,
I guess you are right. The deception by Alex Hunter is only a deception to IDIs. To them,it doesn't make all of the foolish "theories" fall.
CC
Capricorn wrote:
Hi CC,
I fear you will be waiting a VERY long time LOL
You will not find any IDI willing to admit anything of the sort that you are hinting at.
There will be every and any excuse as to why Hunter was doing the right thing and the topic will change as you can see just by perusing the threads about it; everything from the DNA to pedophile rings. Everything but the topic at hand
I truly believe that if a video surfaced of the actual events of that night and it was video of any one of the RDI scenarios, the IDI would come out and claim trick photography LOL
ANYONE but a Ramsey

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#13 Feb 7, 2013
Bakatari wrote:
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Hi AK,
The GJ indictment, along with the deceiving by Alex Hunter, Lou Smit, Lin Wood, Mary Lacy, and the Ramsey parents should be enough to convince you, that you bit on the Ramsey bait, hook, line, and sinker. In other words, you have been had.
Now, that you should have seen the distortions of the facts by those involved with the murder and investigations, you should have realized that the police observation of no footprints in the snow early in the morning was accurate, and that there was no intruder.
So, the GJ indicted? There is nothing big about it, EXCEPT for the FACT that WE didn't know the outcome of the GJ until now, BECAUSE Alex Hunter deceived the public with his statements. This makes Mary Lacy look very foolish or stupid, or both, and it SHOULD make the IDIs realize they have been fooled.
CC
Sorry CC, you aren't going to ever get anyone to admit that they have been played for fools and were duped. It's similar to a battered spouse/child syndrome. They have forced themselves to believe that anyone who is protecting the Ramseys, even if they have to lie and cheat to do it must have a good reason that they shouldn't question. Like a battered person, eventually they really start to believe that it is "for their own good" or in this case for the good of those poor persecuted people, so all tricks, lies and deceptions are acceptable, even if they were included in the lies, tricks and deception.

The only other explanation for their lack of feeling that they have been had and deceived would be plain stupidity and as much as it sounds like an easy explanation, I really believe IMO that it is just a cultish mindset that they don't want to change and won't dare consider a Ramsey

Since: Feb 12

Honolulu, HI

#14 Feb 7, 2013
Hi Capricorn,

I guess you are right. Anyway, there are NONE so far, and I guess I should not expect any, although if it had been the other way around, I would have gladly admitted my error or misjudgment.

SO, that leaves us with, they don't like being embarrassed, OR, they still believe the Ramsey BS. Either way, it is strange!
CC
Capricorn wrote:
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Sorry CC, you aren't going to ever get anyone to admit that they have been played for fools and were duped. It's similar to a battered spouse/child syndrome. They have forced themselves to believe that anyone who is protecting the Ramseys, even if they have to lie and cheat to do it must have a good reason that they shouldn't question. Like a battered person, eventually they really start to believe that it is "for their own good" or in this case for the good of those poor persecuted people, so all tricks, lies and deceptions are acceptable, even if they were included in the lies, tricks and deception.
The only other explanation for their lack of feeling that they have been had and deceived would be plain stupidity and as much as it sounds like an easy explanation, I really believe IMO that it is just a cultish mindset that they don't want to change and won't dare consider a Ramsey
Your old friend

Jasper, TX

#15 Feb 7, 2013
Continue to waste your time talking to yourselves day after day. That is until the DNA is sourced and then one by one you will all disappear.
Marleysghost

Tompkinsville, KY

#16 Feb 7, 2013
Your old friend wrote:
Continue to waste your time talking to yourselves day after day. That is until the DNA is sourced and then one by one you will all disappear.
If the DNA is sourced, great. Then that sourced person has to be put at the scene. At that point, I'll happily consider that someone other than John and/or Patsy were involved.
candy

East Lansing, MI

#17 Feb 7, 2013
The IDI's waiting for that DNA to be sourced to "an intruder" are Waiting for Godot.

Since: Jan 12

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#18 Feb 7, 2013
Anti-K wrote:
What is it that you’re waiting for IDI to admit they were wrong about? That the grand jury voted to indict? I can’t remember ever arguing that they didn’t. But, if I ever did, then I guess I was wrong!
Feel better?
:)
…
AK
Ditto...
Anti-K

Grande Prairie, Canada

#19 Feb 7, 2013
Bakatari wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi AK,
The GJ indictment, along with the deceiving by Alex Hunter, Lou Smit, Lin Wood, Mary Lacy, and the Ramsey parents should be enough to convince you, that you bit on the Ramsey bait, hook, line, and sinker. In other words, you have been had.
Now, that you should have seen the distortions of the facts by those involved with the murder and investigations, you should have realized that the police observation of no footprints in the snow early in the morning was accurate, and that there was no intruder.
So, the GJ indicted? There is nothing big about it, EXCEPT for the FACT that WE didn't know the outcome of the GJ until now, BECAUSE Alex Hunter deceived the public with his statements. This makes Mary Lacy look very foolish or stupid, or both, and it SHOULD make the IDIs realize they have been fooled.
CC
The jurors quoted don’t seem to share your feelings towards Hunter.

One of them is quoted: "I'm not saying that I am at peace. But I had sympathy with his (Hunter's) decision. I could see the problem that he was in. I could understand what he was doing."

Another juror, one who reportedly “expressed a feeling of still not being completely reconciled with Hunter's decision” still said that they found Hunter's decision understandable.

Regardless, the jury merely said that in their opinion as based on what they were shown was that there was sufficient evidence to support a charge. This doesn’t tell us a whole lot about what would happen if the case had gone to trial.

One of the jurors said, "I think I did believe that they would get more evidence and figure out who did it."

Of course, this juror probably meant, "I think I did believe that they would get more evidence and figure out which Ramsey did it." Well, they did get more evidence and that evidence was exculpatory.

I don’t really have much interest in a lot of stuff that seems to keep many of you occupied – Hunter, Smit, Tracey, Karr, Kolar, Thomas, whoever whatever – my interest is with the evidence. Everything else is sideshow, and I am not impressed.
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AK

Since: Feb 12

Honolulu, HI

#20 Feb 7, 2013
Hi AK,
Aside from your own personal beliefs, in my opinion, you have been had by the Ramsey propaganda machine. The GJ voted to indict. WE did not know that until last week, when they voted to indict some 13 years ago.

Regardless of sentiment, the GJ was quite sure that the parents were involved in this crime in order to vote to indict. Now that the truth is out, you seem to be trying to fool yourself.
CC
Anti-K wrote:
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The jurors quoted don’t seem to share your feelings towards Hunter.
One of them is quoted: "I'm not saying that I am at peace. But I had sympathy with his (Hunter's) decision. I could see the problem that he was in. I could understand what he was doing."
Another juror, one who reportedly “expressed a feeling of still not being completely reconciled with Hunter's decision” still said that they found Hunter's decision understandable.
Regardless, the jury merely said that in their opinion as based on what they were shown was that there was sufficient evidence to support a charge. This doesn’t tell us a whole lot about what would happen if the case had gone to trial.
One of the jurors said, "I think I did believe that they would get more evidence and figure out who did it."
Of course, this juror probably meant, "I think I did believe that they would get more evidence and figure out which Ramsey did it." Well, they did get more evidence and that evidence was exculpatory.
I don’t really have much interest in a lot of stuff that seems to keep many of you occupied – Hunter, Smit, Tracey, Karr, Kolar, Thomas, whoever whatever – my interest is with the evidence. Everything else is sideshow, and I am not impressed.
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AK

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