Jewish values at heart of immigration...

Jewish values at heart of immigration reform

There are 360 comments on the The Jewish Journal story from Feb 13, 2014, titled Jewish values at heart of immigration reform. In it, The Jewish Journal reports that:

Members of Reform CA, a coalition of Jewish advocacy groups and synagogues, lobbied to win passage of the Trust Act, a bill to limit deportations of illegal immigrants, in the Sacramento State Capitol Building.

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#88 Feb 20, 2014
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Since you don't understand the history of Asian Guy and his misogynistic attitudes toward people, you may partake of my suggestion to him.
it is easy to understand me, genius. my first priority is to America and americans. and SECOND to any other country.

if it is American money, it should be spent on americans. NOT foreigners.

you say I have no compassion for these illegal aliens? that's not true. it's just that I have MORE compassion for my own people.

I believe that no assistance should be given FOREIGNERS who are in the usa ILLEGALLY as long as even one American is in need of food or a job.

as for YOU, we know you don't give a hoot about americans. so FU.

“Happiness comes through giving”

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#89 Feb 20, 2014
Asian Guy wrote:
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it is easy to understand me, genius. my first priority is to America and americans. and SECOND to any other country.
if it is American money, it should be spent on americans. NOT foreigners.
you say I have no compassion for these illegal aliens? that's not true. it's just that I have MORE compassion for my own people.
I believe that no assistance should be given FOREIGNERS who are in the usa ILLEGALLY as long as even one American is in need of food or a job.
as for YOU, we know you don't give a hoot about americans. so FU.
You and I differ profoundly in numerous ways, including the fact that my compassion extends to all who suffer, including Americans and non-Americans. Leaderships around the world vary, and include some of the most despotic leaders imaginable, but the average people who are trying to improve the lives of their children and themselves matter equally to me. These people had no say as to where they were born.

You say your first priority is to America. Well, so is mine. And I believe it is my obligation as an American to demonstrate compassion toward those who suffer, both here and everywhere. I want to be one small example to the world of what kind of person a caring American can be.

Much American money is spent on foreign interests. That is what helps to spread our values throughout the world and helps keep us strong and safe.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#90 Feb 20, 2014
Asian Guy wrote:
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I believe there will a civil war soon. what do you think?
I think you are right.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#91 Feb 20, 2014
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Move to a cave, wild child.
you can move to a cave or a cage, whatever.I live in a house thank you.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#92 Feb 20, 2014
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>There's still a question about you.
?????? What?
Jose

San Francisco, CA

#93 Feb 20, 2014
spud wrote:
What Jewish values?
Liberal values anglo! Helping the less fortunate!!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#94 Feb 20, 2014
As an analogy, one can't feel compassion for the victim while simultaneously siding with their attacker. You can't have it both ways. And no, illegal aliens are not the victims in this. They made the choice of breaking our immigration laws, working for their greedy employers knowing full well they were breaking another law. They knew that they were using fake/stolen ID's and the harm it could bring upon the rightful owner. They knew that by working for less they were taking a job from an American. They know they are burdening our own citizens with their social costs. They simply don't care. They are far from the innocents in all of this and therefore unworthy of pitting one's compassion for them against the real victims in this and that is Americans and their families.

And just how can anyone feel sorry for illegal aliens after reading Jose's hate filled rants against Americans in here all day long?

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#95 Feb 20, 2014
Asian Guy wrote:
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I believe there will a civil war soon. what do you think?
I think the North will win again
Jose

San Francisco, CA

#96 Feb 20, 2014
Asian Guy wrote:
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I believe there will a civil war soon. what do you think?
Yeah, the Asian fools in China are going to whoop azzz on the Asian fools in Japan!! LOL!!!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#97 Feb 20, 2014
We help the less fortunate all over the world with our generous donations while still trying to help our own poor citizens. We allow in a million legal immigrants a year more than any other country. We cannot however allow unlimited numbers of poor foreigners into our country as we don't have the jobs, resources and ariable land space to sustain them without making our own citizens suffer. Thus the reasons for having immigration laws and annual quotas.
tjmurphy

Roseburg, OR

#98 Feb 20, 2014
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Since you don't understand the history of Asian Guy and his misogynistic attitudes toward people, you may partake of my suggestion to him.
I don't need to understand your history, I don't like blanket oversimplified terms like "misogynistic", xenophobic, "bigot", they are themselves the weapons of ignorance used to stifle discussion. Point out what is, as you put it "misogynistic" and why. I have no respect for those who bully people with loaded words. Strong arguments don't need rude words to make their points, its just the weak arguments that do.
tjmurphy

Roseburg, OR

#99 Feb 20, 2014
Jose wrote:
<quoted text> Liberal values anglo! Helping the less fortunate!!
Who determines who is "less fortunate". I see the less fortunate as those Americans who are forced to compete with low skilled workers from Mexico, who have no standards and will do anything for money. I don't want America's poor to have to compete with Chinese slave labor either. You can have your opinion, but you are no one to dictate who is and is NOT in need of help. Unlike you, I care about all Americans, regardless of color, I want them all to compete for better wages, and not to be undercut my illegals from the south of our border. The racist is you, you only see your kind as victims, yet all people have crosses to bear.
tjmurphy

Roseburg, OR

#100 Feb 20, 2014
swedenforever wrote:
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I think the North will win again
There are no winners in war. Lincoln preserved the Union, that's it. I wish the South would have succeeded, would have made the world a much more interesting place.
tjmurphy

Roseburg, OR

#101 Feb 20, 2014
Asian Guy wrote:
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it is easy to understand me, genius. my first priority is to America and americans. and SECOND to any other country.
if it is American money, it should be spent on americans. NOT foreigners.
you say I have no compassion for these illegal aliens? that's not true. it's just that I have MORE compassion for my own people.
I believe that no assistance should be given FOREIGNERS who are in the usa ILLEGALLY as long as even one American is in need of food or a job.
as for YOU, we know you don't give a hoot about americans. so FU.
You are right on the mark, for some reason compassion for America's poor is not something the elites can comprehend. Many of them think that because your an American, by definition you have an advantage.

It reminds me of the debate about building a border fence (I am not in favor of a fence, I like job site enforcement), the media and the politicians all said it was too expensive. They said it would cost $20-30 billion, a lot of money, but nothing compared to what we spend on our military $689 BILLION a year. So what are we spending all that money to defend? So $30 billion is too much, but we can spend three quarters of a trillion to defend who, Israel?

The government does not work for US, they work for corporate interest and big business loves illegals. Though remember, the largest employer of illegals is the federal government, through sub-contract workers.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#102 Feb 20, 2014
tjmurphy wrote:
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Who determines who is "less fortunate". I see the less fortunate as those Americans who are forced to compete with low skilled workers from Mexico, who have no standards and will do anything for money. I don't want America's poor to have to compete with Chinese slave labor either. You can have your opinion, but you are no one to dictate who is and is NOT in need of help. Unlike you, I care about all Americans, regardless of color, I want them all to compete for better wages, and not to be undercut my illegals from the south of our border. The racist is you, you only see your kind as victims, yet all people have crosses to bear.
hi smart person, thank you.could not say it any better than that.I promise he still does not get it.we know the deal , we help our own first.period amen.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#103 Feb 20, 2014
Jose wrote:
<quoted text> Liberal values anglo! Helping the less fortunate!!
are you kidding, you are nothing more than a cheap , stupid, tool to them.oh and a vote, that will never happen.why? There will never be amnesty.waste of your time and our money.

“Happiness comes through giving”

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#104 Feb 20, 2014
tjmurphy wrote:
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I don't need to understand your history, I don't like blanket oversimplified terms like "misogynistic", xenophobic, "bigot", they are themselves the weapons of ignorance used to stifle discussion. Point out what is, as you put it "misogynistic" and why. I have no respect for those who bully people with loaded words. Strong arguments don't need rude words to make their points, its just the weak arguments that do.
Misogyny was perhaps the wrong description of Asian Guy, since he seems to have equal antipathy toward both genders when it comes to illegal immigration. He seems to attach too much emphasis on his "America first" ideas to make them plausible to me. It is a case of "he doth protest too much". I believe he has an underlying reason for his objection to helping those who are not "AMERICAN", best measured in goose steps.

That aside, unlike you I do believe there those for whom ridicule is the appropriate response.

“Happiness comes through giving”

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#105 Feb 20, 2014
tjmurphy wrote:
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There are no winners in war. Lincoln preserved the Union, that's it. I wish the South would have succeeded, would have made the world a much more interesting place.
Ah, I see the real you has broken through your rules of debate.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#106 Feb 20, 2014
I have no problem helping legal immigrants aka "not Americans". They played by the rules. Illegal aliens are lawbreakers and showed up front that they have no respect for Americans or our laws. They can go to hell!
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#107 Feb 20, 2014
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>You and I differ profoundly in numerous ways, including the fact that my compassion extends to all who suffer, including Americans and non-Americans. Leaderships around the world vary, and include some of the most despotic leaders imaginable, but the average people who are trying to improve the lives of their children and themselves matter equally to me. These people had no say as to where they were born.
You say your first priority is to America. Well, so is mine. And I believe it is my obligation as an American to demonstrate compassion toward those who suffer, both here and everywhere. I want to be one small example to the world of what kind of person a caring American can be.
Much American money is spent on foreign interests. That is what helps to spread our values throughout the world and helps keep us strong and safe.
you are so full of bullshit, it's unbelievable.

you say you care about the usa? I doubt it. you would take the food out of the mouths of our children to feed the mouths of those FOREIGNERS who are in the usa ILLEGALLY.

again, FU.

as for your claim that we should donate all this American money to foreign interests to show how caring we are...?

frankly, I don't think we should give a goddamn dime to other countries as long as there is even one American in need. NOT ONE DIME.

did you know that we give the most donations to foreign aid. and we are hated the most? we even have anti-americans who are americans. they are called hippies, liberals. I call guys like snowden traitors, the hippies, and liberals call him a hero. unbelievable.

you want to know what foreign countries think about our donations? we are just an atm to them. no more. no less. they think we are stupid for giving away all this money. and I agree with them. people like you who push for the usa to give MORE donations make me sick.

I hope you all die a horrible death.

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