Native Americans say "Mexicans are NO...
Cuauhtli

Kansas City, MO

#1976 Feb 17, 2014
Us Mexicans don't need the approval of Anglo Americans or white washed Natives to be whom we are as indigenous peoples of Ishachtlan (N/S America)- and they certainly have no place for trying to tell us whom we are because we already know. The "mestizo" myth does NOT define race, its merely a social status of one that lives in "Latin" America. The Hispanic population in Mexico was to small to have made every (most) Mexican(s) of today a so called mestizo and the indigenous population was to large to be killed off by the Hispanics. The Hispanics tricked the Natives into assimilating into their Euro based caste system hence why it was more favorable to be mestizo rather than be indigenous - 500 years later, the same thing is still going on: Its called cultural genocide. We Mexicans are indigenous no matter how much it hurts the feelings of Anglo Americans.

To the Anglo Americans that think they own the word "America": The word America comes from the word "Amerriqua" and it comes from an indigenous language from Nicaragua, Central America. The word Amerriqua means "Land of Perpetual Wind." The Spaniards were told of a land called Ameriqua that was filled with gold hence why such a word has turned into a repulsive word that reflects greed with prosperity. The continent of Ishachtlan was called "America" by the Europeans. The Anglos that invaded northern Ishachtlan labeled it "North America" and the rest of Ishachtlan that was invaded by the Hispanics/Latins was called "South America." The word America has its roots in a indigenous language and the freeloading Anglos are not indigenous to the western hemisphere - just a little knowledge that isnt washed down with Eurocentric bulls#it
Jose

San Francisco, CA

#1977 Feb 17, 2014
Anglo fools are DUMB!!!!
Quirky

Denver, CO

#1978 Feb 17, 2014
Jose wrote:
Anglo fools are DUMB!!!!
You are not Native to any lands North of the Rio Grande Joder Boy!
Jose

San Francisco, CA

#1979 Feb 17, 2014
Quirky wrote:
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You are not Native to any lands North of the Rio Grande Joder Boy!
We are native to planet earth anglo azzzwipe!! LOL!!!
Quirky

Denver, CO

#1980 Feb 17, 2014
Jose wrote:
<quoted text> We are native to planet earth anglo azzzwipe!! LOL!!!
When we were all created You were left in the oven too long chimp.
Jose

San Francisco, CA

#1981 Feb 17, 2014
Quirky wrote:
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When we were all created You were left in the oven too long chimp.
And you anglo fools came out way too soon! That's why you clowns are all half baked! LOL!!!
Quirky

Denver, CO

#1984 Mar 15, 2014
Bleep !
Dude

Silver Spring, MD

#1985 Mar 16, 2014
This seems to be in part a matter of semantics. If by saying "Native American" one is referring only to those native/"Indian" peoples who occupied what is now the current United States, then sure, I agree that the Mexican Indians/natives are not the same people, though they do have a distant common origin; though this isn't enough to start claiming lands and things, especially in today's modern world. But I also sometimes use the term to refer to all native peoples of the Americas (North, South, and Central America). I guess another more correct or technical term could be Amerindian, as used in anthropology and other fields.

By the way, there were some tribes that seemed to be on both sides of the Rio Grande, and from what I remember, the Aztec tribe came from further north in Mexico or even over the border originally, though realistically they don't make up the majority of native background for Mexicans. Rather its all the other minor tribes that were there and conquered by the Aztecs. Mayan Indians that are full-blooded still exist in the Yucatan peninsula area, as do many other tribes, such as in Oaxaca and so on. By the way, the Uto-Aztecan languages were spread out both north and south of the current US-Mexico border http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uto-Aztecan_lang... .

It's true most Mexicans and many other Latin American peoples are "mestizo", or blends of the native peoples and European Spaniards or Portuguese in Brazil, but then again many in the United States claiming native heritage tend to have rather little of it and be mixed with white Europeans also, especially the tribes in the Eastern United States like Cherokees that were exposed early on to European expansion and disease. In contrast, I've noticed the Native Americans/Indians in the southwest US like Navajo and Hopi and so on tend to have less European background and preserved their culture more, which makes sense since it was only absorbed into the US later.

Anyway, it is true that essentially all natives of the Americas, or "Amerindians" can be traced back to a relatively small group of migrants from Asia/Siberia over the Bering Land Bridge, with estimates of 12,000 years ago to 15,000 or much more (genetic studies also basically confirm this). Over 1,000 years, they populated the Americas and reached the very southern tip of South America. There were multiple migrations though, with the Na-Dene language speakers like Navajo, Athabaskan, Tlingit, etc. being part of a later wave, and whose languages can be linked to some in Siberia like the Ket people. Finally, the Eskimos or Inuit are kind of a special case, and not always considered in the same group as Native Americans because they were part of a more recent wave only 6 to 8 thousand years ago from northeast Asia/Siberia, and largely kept to themselves in the Arctic.

There are theories of other minor migrations from other parts of the world, but they are controversial and uncertain: one is the Solutrean theory saying some eastern North American Indians are partially descended from people coming from prehistoric Europe, based on comparison of tools and things. Another links some Tierra del Fuego Indians in South America with Australian aborigine type people across the Pacific, but that's unlikely. There's also the Olmecs that are often brought up, with the sculptures resembling some peoples of Africa, though this is also unlikely.
Jose

San Francisco, CA

#1986 Mar 16, 2014
We want some of that casino money!! LOL!!!
Sam

Stockton, CA

#1987 Mar 24, 2014
What a load of shit! Mexicans are native american. Tell me how they are not indigenous to the north american continent even if they are mixed bloods? Yaqui indians are both american and mexican indians. We even have a kikapoo nation in Mexico. The cherokee in mexico are defined as mexican natives. There used to be a lot of trade between mexican indians and indians from america and intermarried with each other. White people put up borders not our people! The uto-aztecan languages all have a similiarity! Mexicans and Mexican Natives are defined as Indigenous americans! I am sick to death of this self righteous political crap on who can be defined as a Native. The North and South American continents have always had Natives who were the first on both Continents. How dare you try to deny them a heritage they share by being on the same continent. It's the white man's arrogance who spread's like disease on here saying who is and who isn't! You act no better than the white men who created your blood quantum laws!
dontbsoostupid

Jacksonville, FL

#1988 Jul 1, 2014
Native American peoples..
I think the word u were looking for was people jx1
Soaring Eagle

Melrose Park, IL

#1990 Jul 25, 2014
Cynthia wrote:
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Boy isn´t this the height of ignorance. What precisely are the aztecs? I somehow do not believe this person to be comanche either because there are quite a few Comanche indians in Mexico my friend. Surely you understand that the Mexicans were here long before white man sat their foot upon this land. They were Indians then and they are still Indians to this day.
I have to wonder what kind of brainwashing a person requires not to realize that the people in Mexico look just like the Indians here.
Also, before the US gained the area where the Comanche lived and roamed it belonged to Mexico.
A fact you perhaps do not know is that the Cherokee led by Seqouyah traveled into Mexico and established a reservation there that still exists to this day. so don´t give me the stupid song and dance about Mexicans not being Indian they are more Indian than most the nuts running around the US calling themselves Cherokee when they are either ZERO Cherokee or very little...blond hair and English roots and all...and trying to convince folks they are Cherokee...ha! Sorry that it disappoints you that you are wrong but it is so easy to prove it that it isn´t even worth my time.
In mt native Lakota language, i say "Mitakuye Oyasin" (All Are Related)
Tonali Paynal

Los Angeles, CA

#1991 Aug 12, 2014
Cynthia is the only person with any logical sense here. For us, Indigenous People, there is no US, Mexico, Honduras etc. You all claim to be "Native", but are only the white man's pet. Mexico did exist, but was only in the central valley of Cem-Anahuac, which included SW "US", Mexico and " Central America". It was what you uneducated people call the "Aztec" civilization, which was actually the Mexica Civilization of Mexico-Tenochtitlan. Cem-Anahuac has for thousands of years, since the Olmec Civilization, shared commerce and cultural trade through our Indigenous Nations and Tribes within the Great Land (Land Between the Waters). We are truly of the same historical relations to our cousins north of the colonized borders. Nations in the US are still actively colonized. They are still affected through neocolonialist corporations displacing them from their land to deplete our Mother's natural resources. And you call us the cowards, the enemy.... Indigenous people are still fighting and dying for their land, south of the US border, my brother. In the spirit of all our ancestors who fought and died for our land and people. You are siding with these foreigners who are not ashamed of being the offspring of those who raped our women, killed our children and pillaged our nations. I know many decent and honorable white people who will not deny the injustices and fight along our side to bring true justice. They are disgusted by the acts and crimes committed by their ancestors. These are true warriors, more than what I can say for most who share your ignorance and self hate.
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#1992 Aug 16, 2014
Cynthia wrote:
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Boy isn´t this the height of ignorance. What precisely are the aztecs? I somehow do not believe this person to be comanche either because there are quite a few Comanche indians in Mexico my friend. Surely you understand that the Mexicans were here long before white man sat their foot upon this land. They were Indians then and they are still Indians to this day.
I have to wonder what kind of brainwashing a person requires not to realize that the people in Mexico look just like the Indians here.
Also, before the US gained the area where the Comanche lived and roamed it belonged to Mexico.
A fact you perhaps do not know is that the Cherokee led by Seqouyah traveled into Mexico and established a reservation there that still exists to this day. so don´t give me the stupid song and dance about Mexicans not being Indian they are more Indian than most the nuts running around the US calling themselves Cherokee when they are either ZERO Cherokee or very little...blond hair and English roots and all...and trying to convince folks they are Cherokee...ha! Sorry that it disappoints you that you are wrong but it is so easy to prove it that it isn´t even worth my time.
You're a tool for the liberal open borders advocates. The US Southwest was Mexican territory, neglected and ignored, for only a handful of years. Before that time,, it was Spanish territory.
What I find truly hilarious about the nonsense posted by "Cynthia" is that she (if it is a she) is posting her drivel without recognizing that Mexico would have done absolutely NOTHING with these lands if they were still part of Mexico. They would be like the rest of Northern Mexico, desolate and poor. What do you think Cynthia, if the US was magnanimous enough to return these lands, Mexico would then, seemingly overnight, convert itself into a global power? Or, going back in time, do you think that the prosperity found in southwestern US states just magically appeared, via "wish trees", and weren't the direct result of the work ethic of those settlers and their descendants?

See you in the funny papers Cynthia! and quit smoking that funny stuff.
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#1993 Aug 16, 2014
Tonali Paynal wrote:
Cynthia is the only person with any logical sense here. For us, Indigenous People, there is no US, Mexico,....self hate.
Yawn, wake me up when your un-natural diatribe is over. "Us indigenous people", yeah, right. Read the title of this thread, Mexicans are NOT Indians (meaning indigenous) rather, Mexicans are, like Americans are, of different backgrounds, indigenous, European, mestizo).

Now, go make your tamales for tomorrow's breakfast, pendeja!
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#1994 Aug 16, 2014
The only folks on these threads exhibiting self-hate are the Mejicanos who can't reconcile to their fate, as a nation of wanna-bes, who have to move to El Norte in order to achieve.

I, for one, think this influx of 'undocumented (a.k.a.) illegals are a bunch of self-loathers who are ashamed of their circumstances and don't want to work for a better future in their own country, but their sheer laziness has drawn them to this side of the border. Either that, or they are simpletons who bought the goods sold to them by the coyotes.

"Pay me $5,000 and I'll get you across, of course, you'll owe me for the next 10 years, but you're an ignorante anyway".
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#1995 Aug 16, 2014
Sam wrote:
What a load of shit! Mexicans are native american. Tell me how they are not indigenous to the north american continent even if they are mixed bloods? Yaqui indians are both american and mexican indians. We even have a kikapoo nation in Mexico. The cherokee in mexico are defined as mexican natives. There used to be a lot of trade between mexican indians and indians from america and intermarried with each other. White people put up borders not our people! The uto-aztecan languages all have a similiarity! Mexicans and Mexican Natives are defined as Indigenous americans! I am sick to death of this self righteous political crap on who can be defined as a Native. The North and South American continents have always had Natives who were the first on both Continents. How dare you try to deny them a heritage they share by being on the same continent. It's the white man's arrogance who spread's like disease on here saying who is and who isn't! You act no better than the white men who created your blood quantum laws!
There are Mennonites in Chihuahua and in Ohio, are you saying that they are NATIVE AMERICAN too? After all, they are found in both countries?
LOL

“Tutte le strade portano a Roma”

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#1996 Aug 16, 2014
OneRepublic wrote:
The only folks on these threads exhibiting self-hate are the Mejicanos who can't reconcile to their fate, as a nation of wanna-bes, who have to move to El Norte in order to achieve.
I, for one, think this influx of 'undocumented (a.k.a.) illegals are a bunch of self-loathers who are ashamed of their circumstances and don't want to work for a better future in their own country, but their sheer laziness has drawn them to this side of the border. Either that, or they are simpletons who bought the goods sold to them by the coyotes.
"Pay me $5,000 and I'll get you across, of course, you'll owe me for the next 10 years, but you're an ignorante anyway".
You don't really mean that, do you OP?
You certainly don't come across as the One Republic that used to post a while back.
Having a bad day?

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#1997 Sep 6, 2014
OneRepublic wrote:
The only folks on these threads exhibiting self-hate are the Mejicanos who can't reconcile to their fate, as a nation of wanna-bes, who have to move to El Norte in order to achieve.
I, for one, think this influx of 'undocumented (a.k.a.) illegals are a bunch of self-loathers who are ashamed of their circumstances and don't want to work for a better future in their own country, but their sheer laziness has drawn them to this side of the border. Either that, or they are simpletons who bought the goods sold to them by the coyotes.
"Pay me $5,000 and I'll get you across, of course, you'll owe me for the next 10 years, but you're an ignorante anyway".
Yeah... like your self-loathing mother that had to move to El Norte in order to achieve. Your mama passed that self-loathing right on down to you, Skinnygenes...

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#1998 Sep 6, 2014
And SG, apply that same logic to those European losers that couldn't make it over there in their hell-hole. Those religious outcasts came over in droves bringing all kinds of diseases with them. That's exactly what our beloved founding fathers were... disease ridden religious outcasts of their own society. Another little known truth... they acquired all those diseases from sharing close quarters with their animals... the same way all these americans today share their beds with their animals...

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