Native Americans say "Mexicans are NO...
A I M

Victoria, TX

#309 Sep 13, 2010
Of Course Mexicans are NOT Indians because Indians are the people of India.

Mexicans, Central Americans, South Americans, Native Americans who are pure & mix descendants as always had a shared common ancestry with each other since the beginning of time.

They had shared family of languages such as the Ute-Aztecan, many so called tribes in the south west of the U.S. fall into this catergory of the family languages. Shoshone, Comanche, Yachi, etc

They also shared trade routes throughout the northern western hemisphere through trading with other nations. Mexicans as the Indigenous people of Mexico & in central America did in fact had always had contact with their cousins in the far north of "North America"

They are the original inabitants of this continent. There was such thing as borders back then but it was mainly trading borders rather then the borders that we now have today that seperate a mass continent into two parts.

These are the civilizations that was started from the bottom to the top of the western hemisphere by trading. They trade jewerly, jade, herbs, corn, food, clothing, etc.

CARAL 3,700 B.C - OLMECS 2,500 B.C.- TLATILCO 1,200 B.C .- ZAPOTEC 600 B.C.- MAYA 600 B.C .- CUICUILCO 600 B.C.- ADENA-HOPEWELL 500 B.C.- TEOTIHUACAN 300 B.C.- TOLTEC 700 A.D.- CAHOKIA 900 A.D.- ANASAZI 900 A.D.- MEXICA 13,000 A.D. IZAPA - PUREPECHA - OTOMI - HUAXTEC - TAJIN - MIXTEC - PIPIL - MOGOLLON - HOHOKAM - ZUNI - PUEBLO - HOPI - and more...

Mexican is a word that comes from the Nahuatl word for Mexica, so called Aztecs who founded Tenochtitlan in 13,000 A.D.

The Mexica gave themselves somes names to identify themselves from their codices books, Tenocha, Tlaxcala, Nahua & Mexica. Today the word Mexican is a nationality, but it's name is still thrives from the Mexica people of Tenochtitlan.

These are "Native American" people who migrated from the north from Aztlan to the present day "Mexico City". This is also in the codices books. These books predate Columbus.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

http://www.famsi.org/research/graz/borbonicus...

http://www.famsi.org/research/graz/borgia/thu...

http://www.famsi.org/research/graz/fejervary_...

http://www.famsi.org/research/graz/dresdensis...

http://www.famsi.org/research/graz/zouche_nut...

http://www.famsi.org/research/graz/

"The bottom line is that Mexicans are still indigenous people who are more rooted in their Indigenous ancestry."

Mexico Profundo by Guillermo Bonfil Batalla

CIA-fact book of Mexico's percentage of Nican Tlaca/Spanish mix, Anglo/Criollo (white) or other descendant, Full blooded Nican Tlaca people.

"Mestizos" Nican Tlaca/European 60%

Anglo/Criollo or other European decent 9%

Native American Indigenous people 30%

Other may as be black or other 1%
Bigots Love Propaganda

Wetumpka, AL

#310 Sep 13, 2010
Hello wrote:
My great grandmother was Cherokee; many other ancestors of mine were native to the Great Lakes region. I am "white" but the Aztecs were never in the Midwest or the regions that my native American ancestors had settled.
To my knowledge, no one has claimed the people who came to be known as Aztecs were in the Great Lakes area. However, the Ute-Aztecan linguistic group another poster refered to indicates that their ancestors traveled from as far as Utah and Wyoming (or can take the position they traveled THROUGH there) to end up south of our modern border. All evidence corroborates the accepted theory that the same people who populated North America came across the Bering Straits in the same migrations that led to the populating of latin america. That is why you can take someone who speaks the indigenous Mexican language, Nahuatl and put them on a Shoshone reservation and they will be able to still understand each other to an extent thousands of years later. That is why the languages of the Hopi and Comanche and several others have the same relationship to Nahuatl.
Mexican

Walnut Grove, CA

#311 Sep 19, 2010
okbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>I say let them leave. If a corporation can't make it without cheap, illegal labor, they have no business being in business.
Take a hike anglo. We will all be legal soon!!
cuscatleco

Waterloo, Canada

#312 Sep 20, 2010
Cynthia wrote:
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Boy isnīt this the height of ignorance. What precisely are the aztecs? I somehow do not believe this person to be comanche either because there are quite a few Comanche indians in Mexico my friend. Surely you understand that the Mexicans were here long before white man sat their foot upon this land. They were Indians then and they are still Indians to this day.
I have to wonder what kind of brainwashing a person requires not to realize that the people in Mexico look just like the Indians here.
Also, before the US gained the area where the Comanche lived and roamed it belonged to Mexico.
A fact you perhaps do not know is that the Cherokee led by Seqouyah traveled into Mexico and established a reservation there that still exists to this day. so donīt give me the stupid song and dance about Mexicans not being Indian they are more Indian than most the nuts running around the US calling themselves Cherokee when they are either ZERO Cherokee or very little...blond hair and English roots and all...and trying to convince folks they are Cherokee...ha! Sorry that it disappoints you that you are wrong but it is so easy to prove it that it isnīt even worth my time.
you are exActly right. Natives here have been brainwashed to hate their indigenous brothers from the south mexicans and central americans have way more indian blood than the natives here.
cuscatleco

Waterloo, Canada

#313 Sep 20, 2010
okbuilder wrote:
"for the race" ...(Mexican) everything, for everyone else nothing. In response to the outrageous sign which states "who's the illegal alien here" and to the comments from some posters echoing this sentiment, I have a very old and good friend who is a REAL & TRUE native American Indian ... here's what he has to say about it ... Mexican indios are not indigenous to ANY USA lands, and have never been. Mexicans are of Spanish-European and Mexican indio heritage, and those Mexican indios are indigenous to the lands SOUTH of the US-Mex border not north of it. There have never been any native indian tribes living on any land which is now the USA which were ever "Mexican", "Spanish", "hispanic", "latino", "aztec", "mayan", "toltec", "chicano", "cholo", "vato". or "homie". So you can stop with your "this land was ours" garbage. The land of the Mexican was, is, and will be the Mexico which is south of the border, if you are ashamed of that it is your problem. Just because your people did not make enough of your homeland to be proud of is your problem!! You can make as many signs as you want and yell and rant all you want, but it will not alter the reality that you are not United States Native American tribal Indians, and you will never become such. You are Mexican indios, and most of you are of mixed Euro-Spanish heritage ...
wow the biggest idiot in amerikkka! You are so ignorant! MEXICANS ARE NATIVE AMERICANS FAG NOT WHITE EUROPEANS!and u s natives are mixed too so what? And I'm starting to think your just joking cuz the things you say are nonsence. Are you handicaped or got downsindrom or what ignore the damn border if you originate from this continent your idigenous period you idiot and get off and stop commenting your making everyone dummer just like yourself! Native americans mexicans central americans and first nations people are one race yes THE SAME! The proof is in our dna and you can't change that so cry all you want about it and by the way the aztecs are originally from the southwest and settled in mexico and you can't change that either.

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#314 Sep 20, 2010
cuscatleco wrote:
<quoted text>wow the biggest idiot in amerikkka! You are so ignorant! MEXICANS ARE NATIVE AMERICANS FAG NOT WHITE EUROPEANS!and u s natives are mixed too so what? And I'm starting to think your just joking cuz the things you say are nonsence. Are you handicaped or got downsindrom or what ignore the damn border if you originate from this continent your idigenous period you idiot and get off and stop commenting your making everyone dummer just like yourself! Native americans mexicans central americans and first nations people are one race yes THE SAME! The proof is in our dna and you can't change that so cry all you want about it and by the way the aztecs are originally from the southwest and settled in mexico and you can't change that either.
"Okbuilder" is a fraud. He pretends to be Cherokee and to speak the Cherokee language. He went so far as to claim he is trying to teach the language to the younger generations to keep it alive. He uses a cherokee dictionary to carry on his charade. His efforts were flawed, and he has been outed. He's a fake and a liar!

Level 5

Since: Sep 09

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#315 Sep 21, 2010
Put all the Judge its you'd like on my post. Didn't any of you ever wonder why his words only contain 1-3 characters. It's because they're syllables.

You've all been DUPED!! Some people will believe anything they read, so sad.
cuscatleco

Waterloo, Canada

#316 Sep 22, 2010
MEXICA MOVENT.com
Kick

Detroit, MI

#318 Sep 23, 2010
okbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>If that is what has to be, then so be it. One thing I do know of Americans is, we can fight amongst one another, but don't dare butt in because we will band together and kick your ass for doing so. We will come together. I will bet my life on it.
LMWAO! Been hitting that peace pipe again have you?!
Kick

Detroit, MI

#319 Sep 23, 2010
Hello wrote:
My great grandmother was Cherokee; many other ancestors of mine were native to the Great Lakes region. I am "white" but the Aztecs were never in the Midwest or the regions that my native American ancestors had settled. The southwest does not account for the entire US. People are only claiming that Mexicans are "natives" because it is convenient, it is used as a way to justify the illegal invasion of another country, and to demonize the population that is being invaded (whether they are black, white, etc). Besides, most Mexicans are mestizos, you share some blood with the evil "gringo" and that blood is connected to Europe. You can't choose your ancestry, most of you are not Indian, but a mix. I cannot call myself %100 European, because I have a great deal of native blood.
Whites, blacks, native US Americans, etc are more native to the United States than illegal aliens will ever be. You can try to justify the breaking of the law with twisted ideas but at the end of the day, you are simply illegal in a land that is not yours.
No such thing as native american. We all came from Africa. Besides, white man has been here longer than "native americans".

Even if your people did arrive first; to say that this land belongs to you because you arrived first is abject racism. It never was your land, and never will be.
cuscatleco

Waterloo, Canada

#320 Sep 23, 2010
Kick wrote:
<quoted text>
No such thing as native american. We all came from Africa. Besides, white man has been here longer than "native americans".
Even if your people did arrive first; to say that this land belongs to you because you arrived first is abject racism. It never was your land, and never will be.
so everyone has their motherland,whites europe, asians asia, and blacks africa, and we can't have ours? Well quess what this is our land racist, 50,000 years of history here and your saying its not ours well IT IS! So get over it, this presious continent was stolen by nazi whites and stealing is against the law!and get your carved presidents faces off mt rushmore cuz that's illegal too, its VANDALISM! Deport racist illegal european anchor babies!
VivaElChe

United States

#323 Oct 20, 2010
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>
"...before the US gained the area where the Comanche lived and roamed it belonged to Mexico."
BELONGED is the operative word here. It doesn't belong to Mexico anymore. We either fought for and won the land or bought it on a contract that was signed - we Americans, that is. American includes Native Americans, Americans of Hispanic descent, Mexican/Americans, Asian, Black Americans, and numerous combinations thereof. What's "very little"? Knowing the richness of your heritage and taking pride in that heritage should count more than your blanket judgement. Respect and appreciation should count as well.
Anyway, Cynthia, the majority of us don't think your argument holds water. Aferall, who are you to disagree with what the majority of the many ethnicities and hybrid blends (;)) of Americans want? What do we have in common? All of us are CITIZENS of America - not illegals trying to justify their criminal invasion by crying "Foul!" "We were here first!"
Life isn't always fair. To the victor go the spoils. Mexican Indians lost, no matter how you try to doll it up and put a ribbon in it's hair. It still looks like an illegal immigrant to me.


all i read was its okay the white man illegally migrated. they "won" this land "fairly". Basically a means to keep your social group dominant.
Two Wolves

Walnut Grove, CA

#324 Oct 22, 2010
Mexican wrote:
<quoted text> One day we will all get together and kick anglo ass!!
Yes my Mexican brother. One day we will make those White European morons pay for for what they did to us!!
Madison

“Enforce our Immigration Laws!”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#326 Oct 23, 2010
crow wrote:
i can understand wanting to keep our country free of people, wanting to exploit it , but you cannot tell me mexican indians or mexican people are not indigineous to this continent. If you want to lay down and suck the white man asshole go right ahead, times have changed. we will always call you brothers, reguardless how stuck up you want to be.
The key words in you post are "Mexican Indians or Mexican people are not indigenous". They're indigenous to Mexico not to this side of the BORDER!

You should really keep your filthy mouth shut when you don't know what you're talking about,and can't even spell correctly.
Cherokee

Poplar Grove, IL

#327 Oct 23, 2010
Thank God for the Alamo!!!!Just think of what this country would be like today if not for the Alamo!!!!

To: Cynthia
The mexicans are Spanish from the country of Spain.
They are not American Indians. Never have been and never will be. Oh. Yes, stop speaking your native language to us (spanish) we don't want to learn your language. I have a great idea, Go back to Spain where you belong.
Bigots love propaganda

Wetumpka, AL

#328 Oct 23, 2010
Cherokee wrote:
The mexicans are Spanish from the country of Spain.
They are not American Indians. Never have been and never will be. Oh. Yes, stop speaking your native language to us (spanish) we don't want to learn your language. I have a great idea, Go back to Spain where you belong.
Please don't tell us you're ingorant enough to think that Mexicans are Spanish. Spanish is NOT the native lanuage of Mexicans, it is the lanuage of their colonizers. Nahuatl was the native language of Mexico City and most of the tribes in the surrounding area. Just as the Cherokee people were not completely exterminated, nor were native Mexica.
kool-aid

Waukegan, IL

#329 Oct 26, 2010
Madison wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the biggest racist I see here,and not very educated either.Your spelling is atrocious.
Anchor Baby?
You are the true Anchor Baby
Madison

“Enforce our Immigration Laws!”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#330 Oct 27, 2010
kool-aid wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the true Anchor Baby
Wrong again sweetie,I'm Native American.
kool-aid

Waukegan, IL

#331 Oct 27, 2010
Madison wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong again sweetie,I'm Native American.
so why all the hate ???? You do know that we have been divided by land and language ...
Madison

“Enforce our Immigration Laws!”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#332 Oct 27, 2010
kool-aid wrote:
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so why all the hate ???? You do know that we have been divided by land and language ...
You're a moron,and you don't belong in my country!!

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