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Native Americans say "Mexicans are NOT Indians"

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“I-TSU-LA A-LA-S-DI ”

Since: Jul 07

Checotah, Oklahoma

#1 Mar 31, 2008
Dr. David A. Yeagley, an American Indian and direct descendant of the Comanche warrior Bad Eagle says it best:

America today is making the same mistake we Indians made nearly four centuries ago. America is letting in too many foreigners. And we Indians could end up losing this country all over again. It may come as surprise to many white people who have been brainwashed by the media to see Indians as the ultimate liberals, but there are few groups in America today who take a dimmer view of mass immigration than the American Indian.

The Comanches were one of the most intolerant of all Indian peoples. We had no use for anyone else, white, Mexican or Indian. When we came thundering down on the southwest plains, we took the land we wanted and ran everyone else off. We created the life we wanted, at the expense of other people. The white man did the same. Only he did it on a grander scale.

In many ways, Indians see the white man as a kind of adopted son -- naive, reckless and destructive, at times -- but nevertheless cut from the same warrior cloth as we were. We do not see black, Mexicans, Asians, Arabs and others in this light. These peoples may have their own virtues and traditions, but they have no history with us. They are strangers. If they want to rule us, they must conquer us the way the white man did -- on the battlefield, by force of arms. That is the only honorable way for a warrior.

The white man seems to have lost his spirit. We see that he is giving this country away to [illegal alien] others, and this fills our hearts with fear. For we are part of the land he is giving away ... The white man must regain his warrior soul and take back his land! In that fight, I will stand by his side and offer whatever strength I have to ensure his victory!"

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SGD

Since: Nov 07

Baltimore, MD

#2 Mar 31, 2008
Well stated. We have lost our way, I hope we find it again before it is too late.

“I-TSU-LA A-LA-S-DI ”

Since: Jul 07

Checotah, Oklahoma

#3 Mar 31, 2008
Maybe this will put an end to the lies that are being spread. This is for those who presume to speak for Native Americans. Mexicans are NOT Native Americans and notice is given that we will fight for our land against this invasion. I TSU LA A LA S DI (Together, we will fight)
Madison

“Enforce our Immigration Laws!”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#4 Mar 31, 2008
okbuilder wrote:
Dr. David A. Yeagley, an American Indian and direct descendant of the Comanche warrior Bad Eagle says it best:
America today is making the same mistake we Indians made nearly four centuries ago. America is letting in too many foreigners. And we Indians could end up losing this country all over again. It may come as surprise to many white people who have been brainwashed by the media to see Indians as the ultimate liberals, but there are few groups in America today who take a dimmer view of mass immigration than the American Indian.
The Comanches were one of the most intolerant of all Indian peoples. We had no use for anyone else, white, Mexican or Indian. When we came thundering down on the southwest plains, we took the land we wanted and ran everyone else off. We created the life we wanted, at the expense of other people. The white man did the same. Only he did it on a grander scale.
In many ways, Indians see the white man as a kind of adopted son -- naive, reckless and destructive, at times -- but nevertheless cut from the same warrior cloth as we were. We do not see black, Mexicans, Asians, Arabs and others in this light. These peoples may have their own virtues and traditions, but they have no history with us. They are strangers. If they want to rule us, they must conquer us the way the white man did -- on the battlefield, by force of arms. That is the only honorable way for a warrior.
The white man seems to have lost his spirit. We see that he is giving this country away to [illegal alien] others, and this fills our hearts with fear. For we are part of the land he is giving away ... The white man must regain his warrior soul and take back his land! In that fight, I will stand by his side and offer whatever strength I have to ensure his victory!"
Very well stated okbuilder,and I agree.

“I-TSU-LA A-LA-S-DI ”

Since: Jul 07

Checotah, Oklahoma

#5 Mar 31, 2008
Madison wrote:
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Very well stated okbuilder,and I agree.
It saddens me to think that we might have to fight for our land again. These people don't know what kind of grief they are about to bring upon themselves. The good doctor is right. We will stand with our white brothers for our land. We are still warriors.....
Madison

“Enforce our Immigration Laws!”

Since: Dec 06

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#6 Mar 31, 2008
okbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>It saddens me to think that we might have to fight for our land again. These people don't know what kind of grief they are about to bring upon themselves. The good doctor is right. We will stand with our white brothers for our land. We are still warriors.....
All American citizens should stand together on this,or lose our country forever.I for one would rather go down fighting than do nothing at all.
NightOwl

Charlottesville, VA

#7 Mar 31, 2008
okbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>It saddens me to think that we might have to fight for our land again. These people don't know what kind of grief they are about to bring upon themselves. The good doctor is right. We will stand with our white brothers for our land. We are still warriors.....
Agreed.

“I-TSU-LA A-LA-S-DI ”

Since: Jul 07

Checotah, Oklahoma

#8 Mar 31, 2008
Madison wrote:
<quoted text>
All American citizens should stand together on this,or lose our country forever.I for one would rather go down fighting than do nothing at all.
If that is what has to be, then so be it. One thing I do know of Americans is, we can fight amongst one another, but don't dare butt in because we will band together and kick your ass for doing so. We will come together. I will bet my life on it.

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Since: Dec 07

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#9 Mar 31, 2008
okbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>If that is what has to be, then so be it. One thing I do know of Americans is, we can fight amongst one another, but don't dare butt in because we will band together and kick your ass for doing so. We will come together. I will bet my life on it.
Thats absolutely right!!!! I am with you my friend.
Cynthia

San Pedro Sula, Honduras

#10 Mar 31, 2008
okbuilder wrote:
Dr. David A. Yeagley, an American Indian and direct descendant of the Comanche warrior Bad Eagle says it best:
America today is making the same mistake we Indians made nearly four centuries ago. America is letting in too many foreigners. And we Indians could end up losing this country all over again. It may come as surprise to many white people who have been brainwashed by the media to see Indians as the ultimate liberals, but there are few groups in America today who take a dimmer view of mass immigration than the American Indian.
The Comanches were one of the most intolerant of all Indian peoples. We had no use for anyone else, white, Mexican or Indian. When we came thundering down on the southwest plains, we took the land we wanted and ran everyone else off. We created the life we wanted, at the expense of other people. The white man did the same. Only he did it on a grander scale.
In many ways, Indians see the white man as a kind of adopted son -- naive, reckless and destructive, at times -- but nevertheless cut from the same warrior cloth as we were. We do not see black, Mexicans, Asians, Arabs and others in this light. These peoples may have their own virtues and traditions, but they have no history with us. They are strangers. If they want to rule us, they must conquer us the way the white man did -- on the battlefield, by force of arms. That is the only honorable way for a warrior.
The white man seems to have lost his spirit. We see that he is giving this country away to [illegal alien] others, and this fills our hearts with fear. For we are part of the land he is giving away ... The white man must regain his warrior soul and take back his land! In that fight, I will stand by his side and offer whatever strength I have to ensure his victory!"
Boy isnīt this the height of ignorance. What precisely are the aztecs? I somehow do not believe this person to be comanche either because there are quite a few Comanche indians in Mexico my friend. Surely you understand that the Mexicans were here long before white man sat their foot upon this land. They were Indians then and they are still Indians to this day.
I have to wonder what kind of brainwashing a person requires not to realize that the people in Mexico look just like the Indians here.
Also, before the US gained the area where the Comanche lived and roamed it belonged to Mexico.
A fact you perhaps do not know is that the Cherokee led by Seqouyah traveled into Mexico and established a reservation there that still exists to this day. so donīt give me the stupid song and dance about Mexicans not being Indian they are more Indian than most the nuts running around the US calling themselves Cherokee when they are either ZERO Cherokee or very little...blond hair and English roots and all...and trying to convince folks they are Cherokee...ha! Sorry that it disappoints you that you are wrong but it is so easy to prove it that it isnīt even worth my time.

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“I-TSU-LA A-LA-S-DI ”

Since: Jul 07

Checotah, Oklahoma

#11 Mar 31, 2008
Proud American2 wrote:
<quoted text>Thats absolutely right!!!! I am with you my friend.
We need to somehow get people better organized. I'm not sure how to accomplish that without being ostracized by those in DC.
Bowman

Lompoc, CA

#12 Mar 31, 2008
I agree 100% OK builder. By the way are you a registered tribal member?

“I-TSU-LA A-LA-S-DI ”

Since: Jul 07

Checotah, Oklahoma

#13 Mar 31, 2008
One of our forefathers wrote: "When government fears the people, that is liberty. When the people fear government, that is tyranny".

“Live for today”

Since: Jan 08

here

#14 Mar 31, 2008
okbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>If that is what has to be, then so be it. One thing I do know of Americans is, we can fight amongst one another, but don't dare butt in because we will band together and kick your ass for doing so. We will come together. I will bet my life on it.
You are absolutely correct OK. When things get tough the tough will stand up and stand together. When things really get bad it will be the pro-illegal that will collapse in the end and the time is close. If things continue on the same course, America will be beyond repair. Every state needs to pass anti illegal legislation to strip these illegal of all social services and fine or close down corporations that employ them. Make it less attractive for the illegal alien criminals and they will deport on their own.
Cynthia

San Pedro Sula, Honduras

#15 Mar 31, 2008
Richard you close down your corporations and you also make it less attractive for Americans to stay and they move away too is that exactly what you want to do? To cut your nose off to spite your face just because you hate brown people?

“Try Reuters.”

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Since: Mar 07

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#16 Mar 31, 2008
Cynthia wrote:
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Boy isnīt this the height of ignorance. What precisely are the aztecs? I somehow do not believe this person to be comanche either because there are quite a few Comanche indians in Mexico my friend. Surely you understand that the Mexicans were here long before white man sat their foot upon this land. They were Indians then and they are still Indians to this day.
I have to wonder what kind of brainwashing a person requires not to realize that the people in Mexico look just like the Indians here.
Also, before the US gained the area where the Comanche lived and roamed it belonged to Mexico.
A fact you perhaps do not know is that the Cherokee led by Seqouyah traveled into Mexico and established a reservation there that still exists to this day. so donīt give me the stupid song and dance about Mexicans not being Indian they are more Indian than most the nuts running around the US calling themselves Cherokee when they are either ZERO Cherokee or very little...blond hair and English roots and all...and trying to convince folks they are Cherokee...ha! Sorry that it disappoints you that you are wrong but it is so easy to prove it that it isnīt even worth my time.
"...before the US gained the area where the Comanche lived and roamed it belonged to Mexico."
BELONGED is the operative word here. It doesn't belong to Mexico anymore. We either fought for and won the land or bought it on a contract that was signed - we Americans, that is. American includes Native Americans, Americans of Hispanic descent, Mexican/Americans, Asian, Black Americans, and numerous combinations thereof. What's "very little"? Knowing the richness of your heritage and taking pride in that heritage should count more than your blanket judgement. Respect and appreciation should count as well.
Anyway, Cynthia, the majority of us don't think your argument holds water. Aferall, who are you to disagree with what the majority of the many ethnicities and hybrid blends (;)) of Americans want? What do we have in common? All of us are CITIZENS of America - not illegals trying to justify their criminal invasion by crying "Foul!" "We were here first!"
Life isn't always fair. To the victor go the spoils. Mexican Indians lost, no matter how you try to doll it up and put a ribbon in it's hair. It still looks like an illegal immigrant to me.

“I-TSU-LA A-LA-S-DI ”

Since: Jul 07

Checotah, Oklahoma

#17 Mar 31, 2008
Cynthia wrote:
<quoted text>
Boy isnīt this the height of ignorance. What precisely are the aztecs? I somehow do not believe this person to be comanche either because there are quite a few Comanche indians in Mexico my friend. Surely you understand that the Mexicans were here long before white man sat their foot upon this land. They were Indians then and they are still Indians to this day.
I have to wonder what kind of brainwashing a person requires not to realize that the people in Mexico look just like the Indians here.
Also, before the US gained the area where the Comanche lived and roamed it belonged to Mexico.
A fact you perhaps do not know is that the Cherokee led by Seqouyah traveled into Mexico and established a reservation there that still exists to this day. so donīt give me the stupid song and dance about Mexicans not being Indian they are more Indian than most the nuts running around the US calling themselves Cherokee when they are either ZERO Cherokee or very little...blond hair and English roots and all...and trying to convince folks they are Cherokee...ha! Sorry that it disappoints you that you are wrong but it is so easy to prove it that it isnīt even worth my time.
And how do you profess to know so much about Native Americans while being in Honduras? I am 100% Cherokee. I sit with our council in Tahlaquah, Oklahoma. I know about the Cherokee in Mexico. Being in Mexico doesn't make them Mexicans. They are still Cherokee, just as because Mexicans are in America doesn't make them Native Americans. Now, run along and take your self righteous statements with you.

“I-TSU-LA A-LA-S-DI ”

Since: Jul 07

Checotah, Oklahoma

#18 Mar 31, 2008
Bowman wrote:
I agree 100% OK builder. By the way are you a registered tribal member?
Card carrying, 100% wagon burner. I even speak our language.

“I-TSU-LA A-LA-S-DI ”

Since: Jul 07

Checotah, Oklahoma

#19 Mar 31, 2008
Cynthia wrote:
Richard you close down your corporations and you also make it less attractive for Americans to stay and they move away too is that exactly what you want to do? To cut your nose off to spite your face just because you hate brown people?
I say let them leave. If a corporation can't make it without cheap, illegal labor, they have no business being in business.

“I-TSU-LA A-LA-S-DI ”

Since: Jul 07

Checotah, Oklahoma

#20 Mar 31, 2008
Cynthia wrote:
<quoted text>
Boy isnīt this the height of ignorance. What precisely are the aztecs? I somehow do not believe this person to be comanche either because there are quite a few Comanche indians in Mexico my friend. Surely you understand that the Mexicans were here long before white man sat their foot upon this land. They were Indians then and they are still Indians to this day.
I have to wonder what kind of brainwashing a person requires not to realize that the people in Mexico look just like the Indians here.
Also, before the US gained the area where the Comanche lived and roamed it belonged to Mexico.
A fact you perhaps do not know is that the Cherokee led by Seqouyah traveled into Mexico and established a reservation there that still exists to this day. so donīt give me the stupid song and dance about Mexicans not being Indian they are more Indian than most the nuts running around the US calling themselves Cherokee when they are either ZERO Cherokee or very little...blond hair and English roots and all...and trying to convince folks they are Cherokee...ha! Sorry that it disappoints you that you are wrong but it is so easy to prove it that it isnīt even worth my time.
If you would like to get serious about a debate of knowledge of Native American peoples, I'm your huckleberry. It would be my pleasure to embarrass you greatly after what you posted.

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