Possible compromise on immigration re...

Possible compromise on immigration reform announced

There are 177 comments on the TheBostonChannel.com story from Jan 28, 2013, titled Possible compromise on immigration reform announced. In it, TheBostonChannel.com reports that:

Undocumented immigrants would be able to seek legal status without first going home under a compromise framework floated Monday by a bipartisan group of senators.

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Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#152 Feb 9, 2013
Freedomx4 wrote:
<quoted text>It's called an ITIN number... And it's issued by the government to undocumented people to pay taxes.
It is actually illegal for an illegal alien to use an ITN. It is for LEGAL foreign citizens to use who work in the U.S. temporarily. It is not intended to be used by illegal aliens. The IRS does not require proof of immigration status or even much proof of identity when they issue the number which makes it easy for anybody to get one even if they legally don’t qualify.

Level 4

Since: Jan 13

New York, NY

#153 Feb 9, 2013
Do you realize that you are actually accusing the IRS ?:D
DWG

Everett, MA

#154 Feb 9, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
You still haven't said what you base your support for giving Citizenship to 11 Million illegal aliens?
2012 election , democracy, better history for American, opportunity , etc..

Dwg

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#155 Feb 10, 2013
DWG wrote:
<quoted text>
2012 election , democracy, better history for American, opportunity , etc..
Dwg
Try telling that to the unemployed Americans...where are their opportunities? We don't hear much about jobs, it seems that gun control, spending and illegals are more pressing matters now than helping Americans become self-reliant.
DWG

Everett, MA

#156 Feb 10, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Try telling that to the unemployed Americans...where are their opportunities? We don't hear much about jobs, it seems that gun control, spending and illegals are more pressing matters now than helping Americans become self-reliant.
2012 election is over
Dwg

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#157 Feb 10, 2013
DWG wrote:
<quoted text>2012 election is over
Dwg
Really? Then why is BO still campaigning?
DWG

Everett, MA

#158 Feb 10, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
<quoted text>
It is actually illegal for an illegal alien to use an ITN. It is for LEGAL foreign citizens to use who work in the U.S. temporarily. It is not intended to be used by illegal aliens. The IRS does not require proof of immigration status or even much proof of identity when they issue the number which makes it easy for anybody to get one even if they legally don’t qualify.
Like we saw you are in favor immigration reform.

Imagine this temporary worker with their itin printed in his or her passport, much easy.

It is XXI CENTURY, EVERTHING MORE EASY THAN 1986

Dwg
DWG

Everett, MA

#159 Feb 10, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Really? Then why is BO still campaigning?
You mean about kerry?

DWG
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#160 Feb 10, 2013
Ambro2000 wrote:
That would help soccer grow in USA :D
Soccer is a girl's sport.
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#161 Feb 10, 2013
PayTaxesObeyLaw wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh I agree it's not just Mexico. A large chunk of the ILLEGAL immingration is from South America, the Carribean Islands, Europe, Canada, Russia. I've known Canadiens here ILLEGALLY after they got divorced from their legal US citizen spouse. I've know people from England who basically lived here off book for years before they decided to get their citizenship by their own admission-strange how they could afford Carribean vacations to the Bahamas & Jamacia but there legit on the books job was in big box retail. And yes the Irish and Scots you cannot barely understand are here for YEARS before they go on the record if at all.
ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, immigrants and aliens should be dealth with.
Mexico has 62% of all illegal aliens here. Canada and Europe has 6%, 24% are from S. America and the last 8% comes from the rest of the world. So Mexico has more illegal aliens here than are from 6.5 billion of the rest of the world put together.
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#162 Feb 10, 2013
ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>Obama's already suggested he'll use Executive order... Rediculous. We freakin cannot afford this crap. Americans are going to rise up and finally rebel against these cost's. We can't afford it....
"Only Congress can change the terms for granting immigration status or citizenship, whether for all immigrants or a subset of people."

"In reality, the president does not possess this authority, as unauthorized presence in the U.S. is a civil violation, not a criminal one. Presidential pardon power only applies to federal crimes, described as “offenses against the United States” in the Constitution. As such,“a pardon can’t make someone a citizen or lawful resident,” explains John Harrison, a law professor at the University of Virginia.“Deportation is not a criminal proceeding, it’s a civil process that removes from the country someone who is not entitled to be here."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#163 Feb 10, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>My kids played soccer and enjoyed it. It's a simple game that requires great skill. Young children enjoy playing it among the other sports in their repertoire. Women also play basketball, and what does that indicate??? It indicates that they enjoy the sport. People like soccer.


Taught my children to play chess too, is that a sport? Soccer is a low injury sport, just like field hockey. At least field hockey you can use your hands to do something.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Level 10

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164 Feb 10, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
<quoted text>
Taught my children to play chess too, is that a sport? Soccer is a low injury sport, just like field hockey. At least field hockey you can use your hands to do something.
That's great. My kids wanted to try soccer, and enjoyed it, but did settle into other sports as well. One got a scholarship in basketball, while maintaining a 4.0...even with all the road trips. I don't think we should label certain sports as being for sissies, girls or whatever. Sports are a good way to keep kids busy, allowing them to focus their energy in a positive way, to allow them time to socialize with other kids and get them off the couch. Kids need to exercise their minds as well as their bodies.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#167 Feb 16, 2013
dwg wrote:
<quoted text>
For many years I was here " TOPIX IMMIGRATION FORUM " and many of you said " deport, deport , deport..." And now what we see:
Republicans do not have received enough credibility in their legislative body by the American voters, and democrats are more volatile to deal with this matter.
Republican can not offer human solutions for this domestic issue (11 million undocumented people ).
now Republicans need reorganize their base after Amnesty bill be sign, and open opportunity for young republicans and their vision about NEW AMERICA.
Thanks
DWG
http://www.topix.com/forum/post/reply
"undocumented people" It's OK to call them Illegal Aliens because that's what they are!

LOL!!!

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#168 Feb 16, 2013
dwg wrote:
<quoted text>
Truth Speaker wrote: DWG, why do we need a humane solution to the immigration problem?
DWG wrote: today you do not need human solution for undocumented people in this country you need a computer solution.
Nobody in this country play by the same rules because you can not implent tecnology in your favor, once you Mr. Voter fail to deal with this issue around 27 years (1986-2013).
Now you have around 11 million people inside USA , and you can not deport them, because here is a democracy land, and 2012 election was the human side of this little LAND, GOD BLESS USA.
After amnesty you can use your computer solution to stop american companies to hiring undocumented if you did your home work SAM
THANKS
DISPATCHER WALTER GARBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1Syga1MSTokXX
It's OK to call them Illegal Aliens because that's what they are!

"Immigration refers to the movement of people between countries. While the
movement of people has existed throughout human history at various levels,
modern immigration implies long-term, legal, permanent residence. Short-term
visitors and tourists are considered non-immigrants (see expatriate).
Immigration across national borders in a way that violates the immigration
laws of the destination country is termed illegal immigration."

"Illegal immigration refers to immigration across national borders in a way
that violates the immigration laws of the destination country. Under this
definition, an illegal immigrant is a foreigner who either has illegally
crossed an international political border, be it by land, water, or air, or
a foreigner who has entered a country legally but then overstays his/her
visa. "

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#169 Feb 16, 2013
Freedomx4 wrote:
<quoted text>It's called an ITIN number... And it's issued by the government to undocumented people to pay taxes.
"undocumented people"

Its OK to call them Illegal Aliens because that's what they are!

“Take a deep breath”

Level 8

Since: Dec 12

Let it out

#170 Feb 16, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
"undocumented people"
Its OK to call them Illegal Aliens because that's what they are!
Fear god for he has marked the calendar and the date he picked for your funeral is approaching quickly. Make the best of the time you have left.

No papers required for entrance into hell. Come as you are....
DWG

Everett, MA

#171 Feb 16, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
"undocumented people" It's OK to call them Illegal Aliens because that's what they are!
LOL!!!
My pleasure talk to you Mr. Cricket 23

Mr. Cricket 23, pay attention please.

Now, how I saw you always had sketch of your law from many years ago, like Leonardo da Vince sketch his parachute in 1483.

Immigration Law and Leonardo da Vinci sofer for the same problem, no money, no real interest and not enough tecnology.

I am sure if Leonardo da Vinci had enough money at that time for sure his sketch should work fine at 1483. because just in 2000 :

"Test on 2000 by Adrian Nicholas

http://www.leonardodavinci.net/parachute.jsp

Leonardo Da Vinci was proved right on Monday, June 26, 2000, some 500 years after he sketched the design for the world's first known parachute. A British man, Adrian Nicholas, dropped from a hot air balloon 3,000 meters (10,000 feet) above the ground, after ignoring expert advice that the canvas and wood contraption would not fly. Attempts to fully test the parachute in the UK earlier this year failed due problems of wind and safety near populated areas - it weighs a hefty 85 kilograms (187 pounds). But in the wide open spaces of Mpumalanga, South Africa, Mr. Nicholas safely floated down, saying the ride was smoother than with modern parachutes. Beautiful drop Heathcliff O'Malley, who photographed the drop from a helicopter, told BBC News Online: "It was amazing, really beautiful. But none of us knew if it would fold up and Adrian would plummet to Earth." He added: "It works, and everyone thought it wouldn't."

.
.
1) immigration law SKETCH.
2) Leonardo da vinci SKETCH.
.
.

1) 1986 they just sketch the perfect immigration law without technology management:

a) no biometric enforcement inside labor force. No computers at that time.

b) people with less than 5 years were not inside that law and still undocumented till today.

c) no enforcement ( boots on the ground and much technology ) around the borders around 23 years. Obama administration did the first steps for sure.

2) 1483, The original design PARACHUTE was sketched by Da Vinci in a notebook in 1483.

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/awakening ...

Though credit for the invention of the first practical parachute usually goes to Sebastien Lenormand in 1783, Leonardo da Vinci actually conceived the parachute idea a few hundred years earlier 1483 (200 years before)

Da Vinci made a sketch of the invention with this accompanying description: "If a man have a tent made of linen of which the apertures (openings) have all been stopped up, and it be twelve braccia (about 23 feet) across and twelve in depth, he will be able to throw himself down from any great height without suffering any injury."

2013 is the time to make the right Amnesty with real enforcement, today we have everything they did not have in the past.

Imagine, Leonardo da Vinci did a Parachute sketch at 1483, and at that time not exist baloon or a airplane . but after 200 years later Mr. Sebastien Lenormand in 1783 made it possible.

God bless you, and a lot peace in our XXI CENTURY.

Thanks
DWG

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#175 Feb 17, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Sad but true.
"I'd say realistically 70 to 80 percent of what we were seeing was fraud. And blatant fraud," said Antelis.
Antelis was not the only one who saw a problem. The inspector general found the IRS refunded illegal immigrants $4.2 billion in child tax credits in 2010 alone.

They suspected fraud." Since they suspected fraud, what did they do to curtail further fraud???

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/20101193/ta... -
for-illegal-immigrants
SURPRISE!!

Loophole!
Yesterday, Members of the House Ways & Means Committee voted 22-12 to stop
the IRS from giving refundable tax credits to illegal aliens.

Last year, the Inspector General for the U.S. Treasury Department released a
report revealing that illegal aliens annually receive $4.2 billion in
refundable tax credits, primarily through the Additional Child Tax Credit
(ACTC).

The Ways and Means Committee voted to close this tax credit loophole by
requiring that individuals who claim the ACTC provide a valid Social
Security Number (SSN), based on language introduced by Rep. Sam Johnson
(R-TX). Currently, the IRS only requires applicants for the ACTC to provide
an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN), which the Internal
Revenue Service (IRS) indiscriminately hands out to illegal aliens.

The legislation was part of a budget reconciliation proposal that now goes
to the House Budget Committee for inclusion in a larger package aimed at
saving tax-payer dollars.

FAIR thanks the following Ways and Means Committee Members who voted to
close the loophole:

Chairman David Camp (R-MI) Rep. Jim Gerlach (R-PA)
Rep. Wally Herger (R-CA) Rep. Tom Price (R-GA)
Rep. Sam Johnson (R-TX) Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-FL)
Rep. Kevin Brady (R-TX) Rep. Adrian Smith (R-NE)
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) Rep. Aaron Schock (R-IL)
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) Rep. Lynn Jenkins (R-KS)
Rep. Pat Tiberi (R-OH) Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-MN)
Rep. Geoff Davis (R-KY) Rep. Kenny Marchant (R-TX)
Rep. Dave Reichert (R-WA) Rep. Rick Berg (R-ND)
Rep. Charles Boustany (R-LA) Rep. Diane Black (R-TN)
Rep. Peter Roskam (R-IL) Rep. Tom Reed (R-NY)

******Members who voted against closing the loophole include:******

Rep. Ranking Member Sander Levin (D-MI) Rep. Mike Thompson,(D-CA)
Rep. Fortney Pete Stark,(D-CA) Rep. John B. Larson,(D-CT)
Rep. Jim McDermott,(D-WA) Rep. Ron Kind,(D-WI)
Rep. John Lewis,(D-GA) Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr.,(D-NJ)
Rep. Richard E. Neal,(D-MA) Rep. Shelley Berkley,(D-NV)
Rep. Lloyd Doggett,(D-TX) Rep. Joseph Crowley,(D-NY)

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#176 Feb 17, 2013
DWG wrote:
<quoted text>
My pleasure talk to you Mr. Cricket 23
Mr. Cricket 23, pay attention please.
Now, how I saw you always had sketch of your law from many years ago, like Leonardo da Vince sketch his parachute in 1483.
Immigration Law and Leonardo da Vinci sofer for the same problem, no money, no real interest and not enough tecnology.
I am sure if Leonardo da Vinci had enough money at that time for sure his sketch should work fine at 1483. because just in 2000 :
"Test on 2000 by Adrian Nicholas
http://www.leonardodavinci.net/parachute.jsp
Leonardo Da Vinci was proved right on Monday, June 26, 2000, some 500 years after he sketched the design for the world's first known parachute. A British man, Adrian Nicholas, dropped from a hot air balloon 3,000 meters (10,000 feet) above the ground, after ignoring expert advice that the canvas and wood contraption would not fly. Attempts to fully test the parachute in the UK earlier this year failed due problems of wind and safety near populated areas - it weighs a hefty 85 kilograms (187 pounds). But in the wide open spaces of Mpumalanga, South Africa, Mr. Nicholas safely floated down, saying the ride was smoother than with modern parachutes. Beautiful drop Heathcliff O'Malley, who photographed the drop from a helicopter, told BBC News Online: "It was amazing, really beautiful. But none of us knew if it would fold up and Adrian would plummet to Earth." He added: "It works, and everyone thought it wouldn't."
.
.
1) immigration law SKETCH.
2) Leonardo da vinci SKETCH.
.
.
1) 1986 they just sketch the perfect immigration law without technology management:
a) no biometric enforcement inside labor force. No computers at that time.
b) people with less than 5 years were not inside that law and still undocumented till today.
c) no enforcement ( boots on the ground and much technology ) around the borders around 23 years. Obama administration did the first steps for sure.
2) 1483, The original design PARACHUTE was sketched by Da Vinci in a notebook in 1483.
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/awakening ...
Though credit for the invention of the first practical parachute usually goes to Sebastien Lenormand in 1783, Leonardo da Vinci actually conceived the parachute idea a few hundred years earlier 1483 (200 years before)
Da Vinci made a sketch of the invention with this accompanying description: "If a man have a tent made of linen of which the apertures (openings) have all been stopped up, and it be twelve braccia (about 23 feet) across and twelve in depth, he will be able to throw himself down from any great height without suffering any injury."
2013 is the time to make the right Amnesty with real enforcement, today we have everything they did not have in the past.
Imagine, Leonardo da Vinci did a Parachute sketch at 1483, and at that time not exist baloon or a airplane . but after 200 years later Mr. Sebastien Lenormand in 1783 made it possible.
God bless you, and a lot peace in our XXI CENTURY.
Thanks
DWG
""undocumented people" It's OK to call them Illegal Aliens because that's what they are!"

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