Push for family unity in immigration ...

Push for family unity in immigration bill

There are 253 comments on the Seattle Times story from Apr 3, 2013, titled Push for family unity in immigration bill. In it, Seattle Times reports that:

Religious and labor leaders are criticizing plans by senators writing an immigration bill to boost employment-based immigration and limit visas granted to people because of family ties.

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nym8387

Lawrence, MA

#187 Apr 9, 2013
Married1 wrote:
As well as reform is a fix as well so much of the small business will stay open
no,deportation is the only fix

Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Kansas City, MO

#188 Apr 9, 2013
nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text> dont get to upset,im just stating the facts
Really facts I don't think so

Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Kansas City, MO

#189 Apr 9, 2013
nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text> no,deportation is the only fix
No it hurt the economy big time most places would have to close down no workers and would loose lots of money from the small business closing

Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Kansas City, MO

#190 Apr 9, 2013
First, letís look at how much it would cost us to deport them in the first place. As weíve reported, it now costs at least $12,500 to deport one person. If we tried to deport many people at once, this cost would rise. Estimates of how much it would cost to deport all undocumented aliens range from $150 billion to $285 billion. With a congressional super committee now trying to find a way to add $1.5 trillion to the US economy within the next 10 years, a $150-285 billion hit would make that so much harder.
The US gross domestic product (GDP) would also decrease dramatically. A 0.5% drop in the GDP annually due to mass deportations means a loss of $2.6 trillion over 10 years. This will increase unemployment by about 0.2% annually, meaning a loss of over 300,000 jobs annually solely due to deportations.
In the current US state of economic crisis, we cannot afford to take these hits. We cannot let our country and economy be harmed in this way just to satisfy some self-centered xenophobic zealots. Write to your congressional representatives today to remind them of these important economic facts!

Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Kansas City, MO

#191 Apr 9, 2013
Letís look at some jobs created by immigrants. Approximately 40% of all Fortune 500 companies were started by immigrants. These companies alone generate $4.2 trillion in revenue, which all stimulates the economy. And if we look at immigrant business owners, small businesses that help our economy thrive, we will see that they generate $67 billion annually, about 12% of all business income. Just looking at technology and engineering companies with at least one immigrant founder, we see they created about 450,000 jobs in a 10-year period.
Bob Lewis

AOL

#192 Apr 9, 2013
Adding another 25,000,000 plus to the welfare rolls under the guise of "family reunification" is CIVIC SUICIDE for America.

We in the 21st Century....we can't be stupid and self loathing enough to stand for this crap.

Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Kansas City, MO

#193 Apr 9, 2013
"But the harm doesn't stop there. If farmers can't harvest their crops, the truckers who transport those crops to food processors, grocery stores, and restaurants lose work. And if those enterprises that rely on these crops to prepare meals or resell to consumers want to remain in business, they will have to pay more for new producers. The increased demand from a far smaller number of producers will elevate prices for all consumers. And more money spent on lettuce means less money spent elsewhere in the economy."

UCLA
Professor Hinojosa-Ojeda
Nanuq

United States

#194 Apr 9, 2013
nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text> no,deportation is the only fix
upsy daisy pack your bag we will deport you to north Korea
Nanuq

United States

#195 Apr 9, 2013
Bob Lewis wrote:
Adding another 25,000,000 plus to the welfare rolls under the guise of "family reunification" is CIVIC SUICIDE for America.
We in the 21st Century....we can't be stupid and self loathing enough to stand for this crap.
we will deport those lazy faks who don't work in North Korea .we will keep illegals here
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#196 Apr 9, 2013
Married1 wrote:
First, letís look at how much it would cost us to deport them in the first place. As weíve reported, it now costs at least $12,500 to deport one person. If we tried to deport many people at once, this cost would rise. Estimates of how much it would cost to deport all undocumented aliens range from $150 billion to $285 billion. With a congressional super committee now trying to find a way to add $1.5 trillion to the US economy within the next 10 years, a $150-285 billion hit would make that so much harder.
The US gross domestic product (GDP) would also decrease dramatically. A 0.5% drop in the GDP annually due to mass deportations means a loss of $2.6 trillion over 10 years. This will increase unemployment by about 0.2% annually, meaning a loss of over 300,000 jobs annually solely due to deportations.
In the current US state of economic crisis, we cannot afford to take these hits. We cannot let our country and economy be harmed in this way just to satisfy some self-centered xenophobic zealots. Write to your congressional representatives today to remind them of these important economic facts!
We pay at least that much just to service the national debt.

Deportation would be a good investment AND would decrease the national debt over the years.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#197 Apr 9, 2013
Married1 wrote:
"But the harm doesn't stop there. If farmers can't harvest their crops, the truckers who transport those crops to food processors, grocery stores, and restaurants lose work. And if those enterprises that rely on these crops to prepare meals or resell to consumers want to remain in business, they will have to pay more for new producers. The increased demand from a far smaller number of producers will elevate prices for all consumers. And more money spent on lettuce means less money spent elsewhere in the economy."
UCLA
Professor Hinojosa-Ojeda
Time to bring out the 'chain-gang' to harvest those crops.
Pando

Bullhead City, AZ

#198 Apr 9, 2013
nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text> That amnesty bill is what tainted his legacy
However at the time Reagan was totally behind the bill. He said he would refuse to sign any immigration reform bill that did not include legalization and a path to citizenship for over 3 million illegal aliens in the country. He also said it was "the right thing to do".

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#199 Apr 9, 2013
Married1 wrote:
First, letís look at how much it would cost us to deport them in the first place. As weíve reported, it now costs at least $12,500 to deport one person. If we tried to deport many people at once, this cost would rise. Estimates of how much it would cost to deport all undocumented aliens range from $150 billion to $285 billion. With a congressional super committee now trying to find a way to add $1.5 trillion to the US economy within the next 10 years, a $150-285 billion hit would make that so much harder.
The US gross domestic product (GDP) would also decrease dramatically. A 0.5% drop in the GDP annually due to mass deportations means a loss of $2.6 trillion over 10 years. This will increase unemployment by about 0.2% annually, meaning a loss of over 300,000 jobs annually solely due to deportations.
In the current US state of economic crisis, we cannot afford to take these hits. We cannot let our country and economy be harmed in this way just to satisfy some self-centered xenophobic zealots. Write to your congressional representatives today to remind them of these important economic facts!
What does it cost to edcuate and provide free meals for just one child of illegals??? Look into that and get back to us. Deporting the parents would save the taxpayers mucho dollare for just those two items that run us in the red o the possible twelve years that one child would be in school. Next, multiply that number by several million. In the end, deporation is cheaper. I didn't eve touch the cost of free social servces, ER care and incarcerations. We can't afford them.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#200 Apr 9, 2013
s/b: run us in the red for...
Nanuq

United States

#201 Apr 9, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
Time to bring out the 'chain-gang' to harvest those crops.
time to put you in chain anyway you are just a waste and a worthless shadow on earth you filthy nazi freak

Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Kansas City, MO

#202 Apr 9, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
We pay at least that much just to service the national debt.
Deportation would be a good investment AND would decrease the national debt over the years.
That's what you say until realty hits then you will be crying for them to come back

Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Kansas City, MO

#203 Apr 9, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
Time to bring out the 'chain-gang' to harvest those crops.
Can't they have to many rights
Pando

Bullhead City, AZ

#204 Apr 9, 2013
Married1 wrote:
"But the harm doesn't stop there. If farmers can't harvest their crops, the truckers who transport those crops to food processors, grocery stores, and restaurants lose work. And if those enterprises that rely on these crops to prepare meals or resell to consumers want to remain in business, they will have to pay more for new producers. The increased demand from a far smaller number of producers will elevate prices for all consumers. And more money spent on lettuce means less money spent elsewhere in the economy."
UCLA
Professor Hinojosa-Ojeda
We have an adequate guest worker program that farmers can use to bring in workers to harvest their crops. The problem is farmers won't use it because they must provide housing, breaks and a decent wage for the workers.

By the way only about 3% of ILLEGAL ALIENS actually work in any form of agriculture. The balance work in housekeeping, child care, car washes, factories, construction, gardening, auto repair, restaurants, fast food, casinos - the list goes on and on. Many of these jobs are jobs housewives and students used to do.
Pando

Bullhead City, AZ

#205 Apr 9, 2013
Married1 wrote:
Letís look at some jobs created by immigrants. Approximately 40% of all Fortune 500 companies were started by immigrants. These companies alone generate $4.2 trillion in revenue, which all stimulates the economy. And if we look at immigrant business owners, small businesses that help our economy thrive, we will see that they generate $67 billion annually, about 12% of all business income. Just looking at technology and engineering companies with at least one immigrant founder, we see they created about 450,000 jobs in a 10-year period.
We aren't discussing immigrants and the good they have done our country.

We're discussing ILLEGAL ALIENS and what it costs our country to keep them here.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#206 Apr 9, 2013
Nanuq wrote:
<quoted text> time to put you in chain anyway you are just a waste and a worthless shadow on earth you filthy nazi freak
Low-class, trash talk.

People tend to do that when they know they've been had.

<LOL>

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