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#998 Jun 22, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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I can anticipate their argument:
The Natives weren't really there, and the Mexicans were really Spanish.
And gringos are destined to rule because they are superior and all-knowing and “know how to use the land” like nobody else does.
These mofos DO sound exactly like Nazis.
the muslims came up with that MO way back before the usa was even a country.

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#999 Jun 22, 2013
Lopez wrote:
<quoted text>The only you can remove that many people is if you ammend the constitution,are you that dumb?
The Apaches and Navajos along with the Comanches were the most despised tribes in the whole southwest by everyone,I know dont what your trying to point out here.Everyone wanted them exterminated but the difference is that Mexico see thier land as money making commidity.
Hired assassins from other tribes? Scalping? hey sounds alot like what the USA did.
Uh no scalping was started by the Jesuit priests skippy, and later on gringo paid the Mexicans accomplish their goal,you really need to stop frequenting those nazi sitrs.
My cousin is married to an apache women out in New Mexico and her family loves Mexicans so I fail to see your point.But thats not to say there are some but really what Mexican is really paying attention to that except gringos with no lives.
Yes, I am quite familiar with sw NM and I have met numerous people who say their ancestors are both Apache and Mexican. Mostly their ethnicity today is Mexican.

These pathetic gringos think they can excuse their crimes by finding something “Mexico” did, usually referring to the idiot criollo government, not the people.

Oh it's ok if the gringos massacred, raped and stole their way from coast to coast, because the apache hated the Mexicans! LOL!!!

Pathetic.
Lopez

Perris, CA

#1000 Jun 22, 2013
Lopez wrote:
<quoted text>I didnt both differentiate between black or asiatic Seminoles,but knew they were of the black kind.
But nice attempt in trying to make me out to make me out in being racist against blacks
I didnt *bother*

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#1001 Jun 22, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
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something tells me YOU are MUSLIM.
up to your old tricks causing trouble in the world.
That is the most stupid thing you've posted in here yet, and that's saying something!

I am well known in here for being at war with jihadis, shari'a and the legacy of the evil goathumping false prophet Mohambone.

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#1002 Jun 22, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
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the muslims came up with that MO way back before the usa was even a country.
Yes. Muz usurpation of many countries still afficts them and their people, forced into Arab identity, Arabic language and Islamic religion/social system.

All imperialism is insidious and atrocious... the Muz system is the most thoroughly fascist of any yet concocted on earth, more pernicious and insidious even than Nazism or Stalinism.
Lopez

Perris, CA

#1003 Jun 22, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Yes, I am quite familiar with sw NM and I have met numerous people who say their ancestors are both Apache and Mexican. Mostly their ethnicity today is Mexican.
These pathetic gringos think they can excuse their crimes by finding something “Mexico” did, usually referring to the idiot criollo government, not the people.
Oh it's ok if the gringos massacred, raped and stole their way from coast to coast, because the apache hated the Mexicans! LOL!!!
Pathetic.
Ahh barros my homie lol..Sorry if my spelling is kinda off today I'm actually typing from my I-phone away from the pad while lady is driving to Norwalk,excuse my typos today.
But yeah even the Apaches and Navajos have some Mexican strain in them,dont forget alot would raid Mexican villages and tkae the women and kids captives under servitude.Many of them women willingly got abosorbed into that pool.

But yeah I hear you about trying to sweep their atrocities under the rugg,its a trip right?I guess they dont notice the popular motto amongst NA "give us back our land".
But anyways they never mention those tribes that had alliances with the Mexicans government like the kickapoos and others.In fact many tribes are allowed to operate under their tribal sovereignty in Mexico.
And yeah I have family in friends in New Mexico that always tell me about the Manitos out their.
I'm going to head out their in NM pretty soon again.
Lopez

Perris, CA

#1005 Jun 22, 2013
my lady*
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Allentown, PA

#1006 Jun 22, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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They say that whenever the slaving imperialist lying scumbag Pres James K Polk entered a room, everyone stopped smiling...
Now I wonder... was it genital warts which made him such a sourpuss? Could be...
Good man that Polk was. A real visionary.
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Otherwise your miserable azz would be in Mexico grinding meal for dinner and complaining how awful life is there.
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You should send flowers to his grave. Hell, you're benefiting BIG from his actions. Nothing like biting the hand that feeds you.

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#1007 Jun 22, 2013
Lopez wrote:
<quoted text>Ahh barros my homie lol..Sorry if my spelling is kinda off today I'm actually typing from my I-phone away from the pad while lady is driving to Norwalk,excuse my typos today.
But yeah even the Apaches and Navajos have some Mexican strain in them,dont forget alot would raid Mexican villages and tkae the women and kids captives under servitude.Many of them women willingly got abosorbed into that pool.
But yeah I hear you about trying to sweep their atrocities under the rugg,its a trip right?I guess they dont notice the popular motto amongst NA "give us back our land".
But anyways they never mention those tribes that had alliances with the Mexicans government like the kickapoos and others.In fact many tribes are allowed to operate under their tribal sovereignty in Mexico.
And yeah I have family in friends in New Mexico that always tell me about the Manitos out their.
I'm going to head out their in NM pretty soon again.
These fools know nothing about the real people involved in all of this.

Example... I knew this guy in sw NM, Mexican, he was 83 and then died. Before he did, he visited me repeatedly and told me about farming and the use of wild plants to cure. As it turns out, he got this knowledge from his grandfather in Mexico. His grandfather was Native, spoke a Native language.

Then his granddaughter I got her talking about the history of the place and her own family. I said, the gringos here pretend the Mexicans all got here after 1880 when the Apache were pacified by the gringos... well, that got her going and I got some interesting history there. She claimed that her family descended not only from natives in Mexico but also from the mimbreños as well as apache. Let's see, she had brown skin, dark eyes, straight black hair... must have been a Visigoth, right?

I mean when I think about it, and since anthro and social science is my field I'm always getting people to talk about history. Mexicans are inevitably linked to some native people or other. They're zacatecos or tarahumaras or something.

Then looking at archaeology we find that there has been millenia of contact, trade, and influence between Mexico and the rest of the continent. The crops grown by Native Americans, the ones with which Squanto saved the Pilgrims, were nearly all of Mexican-Guatemalan origin. The architecture of the “Civilized Tribes” in the South has obvious Mexican connections. There is evidence of Mayan influence in Georgia. A warehouse was recently excavated in northern Chihuahua containing trade goods moving between the Southwest and the Valley of Mexico. Turquoise for jade, and so on.

Really, it's hard to take that border seriously if the politics around it aren't informed by historical fact.

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#1008 Jun 22, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Good man that Polk was. A real visionary.
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Otherwise your miserable azz would be in Mexico grinding meal for dinner and complaining how awful life is there.
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You should send flowers to his grave. Hell, you're benefiting BIG from his actions. Nothing like biting the hand that feeds you.
How offensive you white supremacists are. I suppose you should have the Saxons celebrate Charlemagne. And those Albighenses got what they deserved, right?

You Nazis love mayhem, and you love to rationalize it, thinking then you can just go on like that forever. But think about it, boy, your best possible outcome is to dangle from 8 feet of Nürnberg rope.

I'd love to be the one kicking out the stool from beneath your feet.
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Allentown, PA

#1009 Jun 22, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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How offensive you white supremacists are. I suppose you should have the Saxons celebrate Charlemagne. And those Albighenses got what they deserved, right?
You Nazis love mayhem, and you love to rationalize it, thinking then you can just go on like that forever. But think about it, boy, your best possible outcome is to dangle from 8 feet of Nürnberg rope.
I'd love to be the one kicking out the stool from beneath your feet.
I'm sorry, what country do you live in?
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#1010 Jun 22, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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How offensive you white supremacists are.
It's amusing to listen to you go on while you enjoy the benefits of what Polk did.
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I think we both know who the real parasite is on here.
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Allentown, PA

#1011 Jun 22, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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How offensive you white supremacists are. I suppose you should have the Saxons celebrate Charlemagne. And those Albighenses got what they deserved, right?
You Nazis love mayhem, and you love to rationalize it, thinking then you can just go on like that forever. But think about it, boy, your best possible outcome is to dangle from 8 feet of Nürnberg rope.
I'd love to be the one kicking out the stool from beneath your feet.
You should be saying, thanks to James K. Polk, you had a viable alternative for your life.
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Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#1012 Jun 22, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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How offensive you white supremacists are. I suppose you should have the Saxons celebrate Charlemagne. And those Albighenses got what they deserved, right?
You Nazis love mayhem, and you love to rationalize it, thinking then you can just go on like that forever. But think about it, boy, your best possible outcome is to dangle from 8 feet of Nürnberg rope.
I'd love to be the one kicking out the stool from beneath your feet.
On June 15, send flowers for Polk's grave. It is the least you can do.

“ARIZONA”

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Since: Jun 09

Tucson, AZ

#1013 Jun 22, 2013
Lopez wrote:
<quoted text>People like you give great service to the argument that chicano studies alike is desperatly needed to counteract your revisionist lies and show how your stealing of brown peoples lands is a countinuation of the USA's current stealing of nations/peoples resources and being aggressors of war till this day through underhanded methods around the globe.
The funny thing is if Mexico is a fake country because they stole from the natives than what does say about the USA accepting Santa Anna's "illegal,unconstituinal " signing of the treaty of Hildago in D.C.Texas handnt even been ommitted into the union yet,it goes show the USA are crooks who saw land as a commodity,but according to you the USA is very noble lol because they never broke any trietes with the natives right?
The USA had Diplomacy with Mexico (including many other nations) that speaks volumes in itself of recognizing Mexicos sovereignty MR split tongue
"the USA accepting Santa Anna's "illegal,unconstituinal " signing of the treaty of Hildago in D.C.Texas handnt even been ommitted into the union yet"

Uh, excuse me dimwit. But, the reason the Treaty between the U.S. and Mexico after the Arse Whoopin' is called "The Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo?

It's because that is where the signing took place! lol

I know you were trying to portray an innocent Mexico with it's nobles and reps so called cowering at the point of a machine gun held by the evil gringo in Washington DC.

"unconstituinal"? lol

"Texas handnt even been ommitted into the union yet,it goes show the USA are crooks"

You sound like the Mexican Archie Bunker here mijo.

If you don't understand what a word means, do yourself a favor and ask someone. I realize you are proud, but it's in your best interest to do so.
Of course the U.S. broke Treaties and so did many of the Tribes.

That said there is no doubt our government at that time could not control the hourds of people in America and from all over the world and that was the main reason why the U.S. broke Treaties.

No excuse though, some acts of our government were and are a Shame and a Stain on our History. Most are Well KNOWN!

And that is the thing. Our History is taught without hiding the ugly. Not so in Mexico my friend.

Is there a Shadow Government in America, yesterday and today? I believe there is and it has to be exposed for what it is, Alex Jones style.

*Of course Mexico had Diplomats. They just never used them because they were constantly changing governments. When Mexico gave Slidell the back of their hand, that was it.

The Mexican War started over a dispute. The Americans pointed to the Treaty of Velasquez that Santa Ana signed, stating the Border was the Rio Grande. Mexico after the release of their presidente was null and void.

Well too bad.... Mexico attacked General Taylor and the War was on.

“ARIZONA”

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Since: Jun 09

Tucson, AZ

#1014 Jun 22, 2013
Lopez wrote:
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if you did you would know that Mexico was going to pay France but France up the interests on the payments at a price Mexico couldnt afford to provoke a war with their ultimate goal of invading the USA dummy and joining forces with the Confederacy,but Mexico thwarted those actions.
Did the USA ever say thank you to Mexico?
Or did the USA ever thank Mexico for supply oil to their warplanes in their world war conquests? hmm? They changed the course of your history gringo.
Your concerned with Mexicos visionary plans of the natives of southwest but yet over look the criteria the whites had for assumulating into Mexican society,did Santa Anna favor the Gringos over the Natives is what should be asked.
Good day Porky...Mexico was illegal stolen by the way,you have Nada.
Oh And I think the proper description of "cesspool" best desribes your ancestors in Europe who didnt bathe,took shits in the streets,and spread GENITAL WARTS.Phew
"if you did you would know that Mexico was going to pay France but France up the interests on the payments at a price Mexico couldnt afford to provoke a war with their ultimate goal of invading the USA dummy and joining forces with the Confederacy,but Mexico thwarted those actions."

Yes and France ate Mexico's homework too....tragic. lol

The fact is that the U.S. Northern Army supplied the Mexicans with weapons throughout the French Occupation. And even as early as the Battle of Puebla - Cinco De Mayo, the Yanks sent arms and some mercenaries to Mexico to help get rid of the French.

Even after the Victory there, the Mexicans screwed it up by trying to play who will be king when war is over and immediately lost the land they had defended anyway within a few months.

Yes I hear that myth about the French and the South all the time, but know it is a joke.

Why?

Because they had almost total control of Mexico from 1863 to 1865 and did nothing. The fact is France was a major trading partner even still with the North where all the wealth was. All they traded with southerners with was cotton...

Sorry Chary, but we have always paid in full out debts for oil and and even bailed Mehico out numerous times over the years.

Porky?

I have to admit. I chuckled when I read this part and the part about Europeans and waste.

Touche fart face.

I won't go into what modern day Mexicans do when confronted with a Toilet... lol

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#1015 Jun 22, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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I'm sorry, what country do you live in?
I live next door to you, boy.

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#1016 Jun 22, 2013
TombStoned wrote:
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"if you did you would know that Mexico was going to pay France but France up the interests on the payments at a price Mexico couldnt afford to provoke a war with their ultimate goal of invading the USA dummy and joining forces with the Confederacy,but Mexico thwarted those actions."
Yes and France ate Mexico's homework too....tragic. lol
The fact is that the U.S. Northern Army supplied the Mexicans with weapons throughout the French Occupation. And even as early as the Battle of Puebla - Cinco De Mayo, the Yanks sent arms and some mercenaries to Mexico to help get rid of the French.
Even after the Victory there, the Mexicans screwed it up by trying to play who will be king when war is over and immediately lost the land they had defended anyway within a few months.
Yes I hear that myth about the French and the South all the time, but know it is a joke.
Why?
Because they had almost total control of Mexico from 1863 to 1865 and did nothing. The fact is France was a major trading partner even still with the North where all the wealth was. All they traded with southerners with was cotton...
Sorry Chary, but we have always paid in full out debts for oil and and even bailed Mehico out numerous times over the years.
Porky?
I have to admit. I chuckled when I read this part and the part about Europeans and waste.
Touche fart face.
I won't go into what modern day Mexicans do when confronted with a Toilet... lol
USA control of Mexico is called “bailing out”???

You have but a tenuous grip on reality, boy.

The machinations of gringo and French imperialists do not negate that they and other imperialist powers abused Mexico.

This continues worldwide. Does not France control the economy of former French West Africa? Does not UK oil control Nigeria?

You brainwashed Yanks have no idea what is going on.

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#1017 Jun 22, 2013
TombStoned wrote:
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"the USA accepting Santa Anna's "illegal,unconstituinal " signing of the treaty of Hildago in D.C.Texas handnt even been ommitted into the union yet"
Uh, excuse me dimwit. But, the reason the Treaty between the U.S. and Mexico after the Arse Whoopin' is called "The Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo?
It's because that is where the signing took place! lol
I know you were trying to portray an innocent Mexico with it's nobles and reps so called cowering at the point of a machine gun held by the evil gringo in Washington DC.
"unconstituinal"? lol
"Texas handnt even been ommitted into the union yet,it goes show the USA are crooks"
You sound like the Mexican Archie Bunker here mijo.
If you don't understand what a word means, do yourself a favor and ask someone. I realize you are proud, but it's in your best interest to do so.
Of course the U.S. broke Treaties and so did many of the Tribes.
That said there is no doubt our government at that time could not control the hourds of people in America and from all over the world and that was the main reason why the U.S. broke Treaties.
No excuse though, some acts of our government were and are a Shame and a Stain on our History. Most are Well KNOWN!
And that is the thing. Our History is taught without hiding the ugly. Not so in Mexico my friend.
Is there a Shadow Government in America, yesterday and today? I believe there is and it has to be exposed for what it is, Alex Jones style.
*Of course Mexico had Diplomats. They just never used them because they were constantly changing governments. When Mexico gave Slidell the back of their hand, that was it.
The Mexican War started over a dispute. The Americans pointed to the Treaty of Velasquez that Santa Ana signed, stating the Border was the Rio Grande. Mexico after the release of their presidente was null and void.
Well too bad.... Mexico attacked General Taylor and the War was on.
Gen Taylor crossed into Mexican territory with the express intention of creating an incident which Polk could take to Congress to demand war. Lies. Warmup for the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

USA: warmongering imperialist expansionist. That's what it's called.

Those who defend it are scum.

“ARIZONA”

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Tucson, AZ

#1018 Jun 22, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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You're a smartass, boy, and all the more amusing since you know nothing of history.
Spain had put together Mexico and Central America as “Nueva España”. How is this relevant? It is not... it is only an opportunity for you to spew more smartass.
In person that wouldn't last long...
USA stole those territories.
Gen Taylor had no right to cross the Nueces as the internationally recognized border was the Río Bravo, liar.
You think this is all funny, an imperialist war, racist gringos who behaved like Nazis. Wonder how funny it would be as foreign soldiers rape your family... maybe you need a few death squads to play machete games with your mama's ass.
That might shut up your smartass, boy.
It was imperialist expansionism, lying fascist. How thin are your excuses that somehow Mexico wasn't legitimate, had no legitimate territorial claims.
You better learn Castilian, a$$hole. Or get out of stolen land.
Now giggle some more, halfwit.
"You're a smartass, boy, and all the more amusing since you know nothing of history."

"Spain had put together Mexico and Central America as “Nueva España”. How is this relevant? It is not... it is only an opportunity for you to spew more smartass."

"In person that wouldn't last long..."

"USA stole those territories."

GRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRrrr rrrrr..... Hee hee hee.... a real tough guy huh? lol

It is relevant in the fact that Central America is almost, if not more of a cesspool than Mexico is.

Of course Mexicans are going to cry and complain about losing the Southwest in comparison to Central America, it's Paradise!

No, the U.S. Paid for what is now the Southwest and signed a Treaty that is Iron Clad you Fruitcake.

You make the U.S. out to be the aggressor and yet Mexico attacked first and then when it was time for the biggest boaster and mouth of all to fight?

Even though he had superior numbers, Mariano Paredes not only turned around when he learned with who he would have have to fight, he conveniently changed his mind and decided instead to return to Mexico City and overthrow the government. lol

A real statesman huh?

Nevertheless, Mexico has no right to this land and up until the 1960's, never claimed too.

*Not even the Mexican Constitution of 1917 claims the Southwest!

The Mexican Constitution spells out the extent of Mexican territory. It mentions Mexican islands, continental shelf, and airspace, Mexico's 31 states and federal district, but it never mentions California, Texas or Arizona.

Your made up chicano lies are just that. Lies!

I don't giggle you fruitcake. I was laughing at you both because what else could I do?

You guy's are a real Riot.

Congratulations. lol...Laughing out LOUD!

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