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Black Conservatives Speak out on Illegal Immigration

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“The REAL Founding Fathers!!!!!”

Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#812 Jun 21, 2013
Uncle Miltie wrote:
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You don't understand. The majoristy of Mexicans who are now entering our country are not assimilating and they are not contirbuting to the betterment of our country. This is largely because they don't feel that they are part our country. Here form Heather Macdonald;
"Unless the life chances of children raised by single mothers suddenly improve, the explosive growth of the U.S. Hispanic population over the next couple of decades does not bode well for American social stability. Hispanic immigrants bring near–Third World levels of fertility to America, coupled with what were once thought to be First World levels of illegitimacy.(In fact, family breakdown is higher in many Hispanic countries than here.) Nearly half of the children born to Hispanic mothers in the U.S. are born out of wedlock, a proportion that has been increasing rapidly with no signs of slowing down. Given what psychologists and sociologists now know about the much higher likelihood of social pathology among those who grow up in single-mother households, the Hispanic baby boom is certain to produce more juvenile delinquents, more school failure, more welfare use, and more teen pregnancy in the future.
The government social-services sector has already latched onto this new client base; as the Hispanic population expands, so will the demands for a larger welfare state. Since conservative open-borders advocates have yet to acknowledge the facts of Hispanic family breakdown, there is no way to know what their solution to it is. But they had better come up with one quickly, because the problem is here—and growing."
I think I do understand. In my neighbourhood (which is quite diverse racially) most of the Hispanic families are two parent households although I do come in contact with many single parent ( mostly women) through volunteering with a rape victim's group and a parents of murdered children's group. Problems related to the breakdown of values are not exclusive to any one race or ethnicity. If more people with sense got involved and volunteered to help change things, we might be able to stave off the complete breakdown of values in our society. Unfortunately, more people wish to complain than roll up their sleeves and get involved to initiate change. Still sayin'....
Level 3

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#813 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Wrong, white racist scumwad.
There is no good evidence for “whites” in America before Columbus. Nor blacks.
Native Americans only. That includes Mexicans.
Mexico has been the cultural center of North America for 10,000 years. Mexican traits are seen in the structures built in eastern N America, for example.
The Solutrean hypothesis is weak, boy. The stone points are of different sizes.
Clovis, and Folsom, were indigenous developments. LOL at you outsiders, black and white both, constantly trying to claim the Olmecs, Maya, Choctaw and nearly everyone else.
Who's the illegal alien, Pilgrim?
Native American is a marketing term and incorrect. There never was a native human population in the Americas. I am a native American and so is anyone born in the western hemisphere. Stick with American Indian.
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And the Mexicans were not the American Indian. Stop trying to horn in on the action.
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The earliest dated artifacts were from 20,000 years ago and they were European in design.
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Now YOU are one person I'd be happy to say, Get off my land! Parasite!
Level 3

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#814 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Wrong, white racist scumwad.
There is no good evidence for “whites” in America before Columbus. Nor blacks.
Native Americans only. That includes Mexicans.
Mexico has been the cultural center of North America for 10,000 years. Mexican traits are seen in the structures built in eastern N America, for example.
The Solutrean hypothesis is weak, boy. The stone points are of different sizes.
Clovis, and Folsom, were indigenous developments. LOL at you outsiders, black and white both, constantly trying to claim the Olmecs, Maya, Choctaw and nearly everyone else.
Who's the illegal alien, Pilgrim?
Mexicans.... what a bunch of squatters!

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Since: Nov 11

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#815 Jun 21, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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*sits down next to Sinajuavi and gives him a big hug*
Oh my, dear. You are a well educated man and it pains me to see you sink to the level of these racists by expressing yourself in this manner. NEVER let 'em see you sweat or lose your cool. Your educational background is enough to squelch most of these losers' arguments. I would hate to see Topix ban you for content. Just sayin'.....
Yes I suppose you're right.

Some of them, their discourse is on that level anyway... their racism is worse than whatever anal curses I put on them...

Topix banned me once for confronting white racists on a California city forum (Santa Cruz, ironically). They went on about beaners and wetbacks, but when I began to consistently call them racists I was banned for insulting language, lol...

This is the AA forum. Topix allows a lot of vileness they would take off from other forums. Is this racism against black people? To large extent, yes. I mean... the white racists in here insulting blacks incessantly... I was banned for 1/1,000,000 of that.

Anyway, I shall attempt to maintain more decorum, thanks.

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Since: Mar 12

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#816 Jun 21, 2013
Sindhi Native wrote:
so just out of curiosity gringos, how would you know if an African or European person is here legally because they can easily blend in with the crowd.
They wouldn't, lol. That's how those European slipped so easily among them. In their minds all terrorist have dark swarthy skin and black hair, lol. It's never occurred to them that there are European Muslims as well as the largest amount of Muslims coming from Asia! The same with the Mexicans they wanted to racially profile in Arizona. They don't realize Mexicans come in all flavors too. From the blonde haired blue-eyed to looking black, ah, the same as the people look in this nation. They were only going to stop the ones that fit their racially ignorant sense of humanity and stop the olive-skinned, dark-haired ones, lol. And even then, are they from Central America? Puerto Ricans? Domincans, etc.? How are these clueless people supposed to know who don't travel anywhere nor watch anything but Faux News and listen to their former drunkard, stripper governor?

SMDH!

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Since: Mar 12

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#817 Jun 21, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Native American is a marketing term and incorrect. There never was a native human population in the Americas. I am a native American and so is anyone born in the western hemisphere. Stick with American Indian.
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And the Mexicans were not the American Indian. Stop trying to horn in on the action.
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The earliest dated artifacts were from 20,000 years ago and they were European in design.
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Now YOU are one person I'd be happy to say, Get off my land! Parasite!
Your comments, as usual, are disingenious. You're ancestors were from Italy and I bet they came and landed on Ellis Island like a lot of IMMIGRANTS From Italy, Ireland, England, Germany and other European countries that were and are still poor and struggling! So now you're going to try and usurp the legacy of 100s of thousands of years of "NATIVE TO THIS LAND" and say Europeans were here? Now it's your country because you're native? lol.

I watched a youtube video of a Native American who broke up an immigration rally. He was so outraged that he told them off and ran them off. He Stopped walking his baby to address them and told them "they were the damn immigrates" that they should go back wherever the hell it is their ancestors came from. He told them they stole the land from his people and that the red on their flag they so proudly waved was the blood of his people and the slaves they murdered and used to build this nation. He was outraged and if anyone can speak about immigration, it surely is them and not you! As for artifacts, you can go on any tour in Savannah, Ga and they will tell you that they found clam and oyster shells (the main stay of the "NATIVE INDIANS" from there that went back not 20 thousand years, but hundred of thousands of years. After two fires nearly destroyed Savannah because they built their homes like the "IMMIGRANT" Americans from wood, they finally got smart and mixed all these hundred of thousands of year old shells (there's a name for it, but it escapes me) and used it to build their homes and it's still in use today! They also use it in Florida.

Why do you lie? Why do you act as if you're the respository of all knowledge when you're not, just to prove a point and white supremacy? When you're wrong, you and your kind simply will not admit it and that's why you're not liked, nor trusted ever.

Remember the Indians warned, "white man speaks with forked tongue!" That's what you just did in your post.

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Since: Nov 11

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#818 Jun 21, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Native American is a marketing term and incorrect. There never was a native human population in the Americas. I am a native American and so is anyone born in the western hemisphere. Stick with American Indian.
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And the Mexicans were not the American Indian. Stop trying to horn in on the action.
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The earliest dated artifacts were from 20,000 years ago and they were European in design.
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Now YOU are one person I'd be happy to say, Get off my land! Parasite!
What a convoluted load.

First, you can lose that Solutrean BS right now. You can base no argument on that. It is 100% unproven. And we're supposed to believe that these Solutrean-Clovis people all died out? Because there is no Cro-Magnon DNA in Native Americans.

And they didn't wipe out the early proto-Jomon/Australoids, because it has been discovered that their DNA does in fact persist... it is similar (Y-type C) to that of other Native Americans, many eastern Asians, Australians, etc.

Mexicans were Native American, fool. The word “Mexica” is Nahuatl. Another name for Aztecs. Mexican people today are their descendants. The best way to characterize the average Mexican is,“Spanish-speaking Native American”. The dynamic was different in Mexico. In the USA, Natives speak English but retain strong “tribal” identity. In Mexico, they in many cases lost the direct identity, but not the culture.

And many Mexicans, if you get beyond the superficial impression, they speak Spanish, they participate in “Mexican” national culture, in fact DO have the identity in the sense of knowing that those are their ancestors. I've met people who as an infant spoke a Native language (e.g., Otomí, Purépecha) before they spoke Castilian.

You know NOTHING about any of this, obviously.

YOU are the one trying to start a terrritorial war. I personally have no problem if someone of European, African, Native American, Asian, or whatever ancestry lives in America or in the USA. But I want people here to be respectful of others, and some acknowledgement has to be made regarding the people who've been here longest and their understandings about this land. It is absurd that there is not one Native representative in the UN, that countries like Mexico and Guatemala with majority Native populations are ruled still by criollos, etc.

And you arrogantly proclaim the right to decide which of these people lives and works where...

YOU and those of your ilk (including among other ethnic groups, not only whites) who push this constant divisiveness are playing into the hands of the oppressors. We should be fighting for good conditions for all workers, but nooooooo... you have to whine about Mexicans being around. How petty and counter-productive.

Level 3

Since: Mar 13

kaiserslautern, Germany

#819 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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How would you know if they're assimilating? Do you know them or their kids?
And again... Mexican culture and Castilian language were present in the SW before the USA existed. So who should assimilate to what?
It is a cultural fact that there is much assimilation between the 2 cultures in a band extending 200 miles on each side of the border. Nothing you can do about it, boy. The USA is already highly Mexicanized. Mexican salsa is now more popular than gringo ketchup.
Your maligning of Mexican people is not acceptable, boy. This is the same racist crap thrown at immigrants for 200 years in this country, and it's as misguided and evil now as it was in “Gangs of New York”. You filthy bigoted lowlife anti-human sociopathic traitorous misfit! You're a sorry representative of a country claiming to be “the land of the free”.
I believe in that stuff when it's in the Bill of Rights. But the “Americanism”, the Yankism of such as you show only ugliness. Do your country a favor, boy, and shut the F up. Don't people hate Yanks enough already as it is?
I'm orginally from Houston and I have family in Memphis where beleive it or not, some neigborhoods are becoming predominately Mexican, you big doofus! I'm not worried about nachos or salsa. You sure do make some ignorant points. I don't want our country to become like Mexico where millions of children are left to fend for themsleves in the streets and no one gives a damn, where politicians are easliy bribed into being in cahoots with local drugs lords, where the police routinely harass innocent people just to get money out of them, where local business are often crippled because of extortionists, where women are beat and treated like crap with their only value is bearing children, where you have to thoroughly boil the tap water before you can even use it to brush your teeth. Must I go on?

Lets just say I find their moral code of conduct and standard of living, unacceptable to my American tastes. And thats for starters.

They don't call it a third world contry for nothing.

And I could care less what race they are. I care about what they do.

You bring up race because it's the only way you can pretend to have a leg to stand on. Now come on and proposition me with one of your famously idle threats so I can come over there, pull that dirty sombrero down over your eyes, and kick you in the nutz! Lolz

Level 6

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#820 Jun 21, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Mexicans.... what a bunch of squatters!
You see the problems which result from not having secure borders since 1492? Now there are unwanted misfits like you running amok all over the place...

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#821 Jun 21, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Now, I will ask again, what has Cory Booker done?
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As for the fathers, I just get a kick out of their kids complaining while they stay in the United States. It's sort of like seeing the old lady next door was murdered, so you grab her silverware since she won't be needing it anymore. The sanctimony gets a bit stupid.
I don't have a race fixation, you do! You're the "negro, poor blacks, welfare, entitlement, victimization, broke azz negro, spewing ranter on this thread. I didn't use those terms, you did.

I like Cory Booker for what he's said and apparently the people of Newark, who voted him in and continued to do, like him too for what he's done. Again, I asked you, as you so neatly dodged the question, what have or did the white republican mayors of Newark did that improved the lot of people. You won't answer because you know they took bribes, graft and malfeance, patronage jobs, and all other shenigans. How many of the North Jersey Mayors (All Republicans, of course) were caught up in a sting several years ago did a wonderful job and improve the lives of their constituents? Several just got out of jail. I know because my daughter and son-in-law are friends with one of the former mayors caught up in the sting.

But you ain't got a damn thing to say about that, do you with your sanctimonious, disingenious self!

Level 6

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#822 Jun 21, 2013
Uncle Miltie wrote:
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"Mexicans have been there for tens of millenia." Fourth grade education?? SMH.
Poor mexicans, we done stole they land. And Mexico took it from Spain, who took it from the Nahuatls, who took it from the Mayans, who took it from the gentle deer and birdies who once lived here in peace till man came along.(Now cue world’s smallest violin.)
Oh but wait, we paid them for it!
Go drink your liquid "tequila" lunch. You score no points here.
Moron... if the Mexicans aren't the Nahuatl or the Spanish, then who the hell are they? LOL!!!

They are the same people conquered by Cortés in 1522.

Interesting that as I teach school I look out on a room full of brown faces with straight black hair and dark eyes but who are these people, according to you? They call themselves Mexicans. A Navajo person told me once the Navajo are always getting pissed off at whites and Mexicans both who assume they're Mexican. People go up to them speaking Spanish. Well, some Navajo speak Spanish, but anyway you get the point.

Then around where the Tulatulabal people still live, I was told by whites that at the ranches out there, the cowboys were all Mexicans. I find out in fact they're all Tulatulabal.

So why are gringos and others constantly confusing Mexicans with Native Americans? Figure it out, eh.

Since: Feb 09

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#823 Jun 21, 2013
Does ANYONE ever think about how population growth- mostly through massive immigration- affects natural resources and quality of life for those already here? Just talking about sheer numbers, not where the people come from. We are one of the few nations that has the possible luxury of having a relatively low population and all the benefits it can bring. I can list these benefits. Can anyone list benefits of having twice the number of people here than we have now? Three times as many? WHY is it never discussed? Is it really a non-issue??

Since: Feb 09

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#824 Jun 21, 2013
Here is one article concerning it. Interestingly, it's difficult to find articles discussing scientific opinions of optimum population for the U.S. It is talked about in world terms in most articles.

http://www.npg.org/forum_series/land_water_en...
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Since: Sep 07

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#825 Jun 21, 2013
Lopez wrote:
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^^^
<quoted text>Sounds like you want to rehash Nazi Germany again.
You would sell your soul.
let me get this straight..

you believe that asking for a passport to identify if someone is illegal or legal is tantamount to following the policy of a nazi?

did you know that we currently follow this policy of asking for passports at all airports and border zones in the usa?

did you know that ALL countries in the world also do this?

are you saying that we are all quote, "rehashing nazi germany" when we do this?

bottomline, how are you going to make the process of filtering out the illegals and the legals simple if you don't allow the process of showing passports for ID when requested to do so?

Level 3

Since: Mar 13

kaiserslautern, Germany

#826 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Moron... if the Mexicans aren't the Nahuatl or the Spanish, then who the hell are they? LOL!!!
They are the same people conquered by Cortés in 1522.
Interesting that as I teach school I look out on a room full of brown faces with straight black hair and dark eyes but who are these people, according to you? They call themselves Mexicans. A Navajo person told me once the Navajo are always getting pissed off at whites and Mexicans both who assume they're Mexican. People go up to them speaking Spanish. Well, some Navajo speak Spanish, but anyway you get the point.
Then around where the Tulatulabal people still live, I was told by whites that at the ranches out there, the cowboys were all Mexicans. I find out in fact they're all Tulatulabal.
So why are gringos and others constantly confusing Mexicans with Native Americans? Figure it out, eh.
I'm glad you asked. They are a fusion of the two peoples. And throroughly Hispanicized. You can not say they are the same people that Cortez conquered. Not only the languages, but most of the indigenous culture has been washed away. The rulers and aristocrats of Mexico, and by implication the government, remain largely of European descent. A country is represented by it's head is it not? They are oppressors of the indigenous people. They make what we did to our indigenous look like a slap on the wrist. Anyone who aligns themselves with the Mexican flag or the racist hispanic culture is aligned with that. That my friend is the real truth of the matter. All of this talk of being wholly Native Americans is pure crappy poop, to make beleive that Mexicans have some legitimacy in the South West territories.

The Mestizo Mexican has foresworn his Native ancestry by embracing the racist culture and mindset which opressed and subjugated the indigenous.

See what I mean about not having a leg to stand on?

“The REAL Founding Fathers!!!!!”

Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#827 Jun 21, 2013
Uncle Miltie wrote:
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I'm orginally from Houston and I have family in Memphis where beleive it or not, some neigborhoods are becoming predominately Mexican, you big doofus! I'm not worried about nachos or salsa. You sure do make some ignorant points. I don't want our country to become like Mexico where millions of children are left to fend for themsleves in the streets and no one gives a damn, where politicians are easliy bribed into being in cahoots with local drugs lords, where the police routinely harass innocent people just to get money out of them, where local business are often crippled because of extortionists, where women are beat and treated like crap with their only value is bearing children, where you have to thoroughly boil the tap water before you can even use it to brush your teeth. Must I go on?
Lets just say I find their moral code of conduct and standard of living, unacceptable to my American tastes. And thats for starters.
They don't call it a third world contry for nothing.
And I could care less what race they are. I care about what they do.
You bring up race because it's the only way you can pretend to have a leg to stand on. Now come on and proposition me with one of your famously idle threats so I can come over there, pull that dirty sombrero down over your eyes, and kick you in the nutz! Lolz
Come on now.....Seriously, can we all just get along? We may not agree on things here but insults and threats are NOT the way to initiate change. Can we at least agree that we are all in this pot together now and we need to find a way to continue to make this the greatest country in the world? It is going to take a lot of work but we can do it, if we agree to find common ground and work from there. Still sayin'......

Since: Feb 09

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#828 Jun 21, 2013
sONE wrote:
Does ANYONE ever think about how population growth- mostly through massive immigration- affects natural resources and quality of life for those already here? Just talking about sheer numbers, not where the people come from. We are one of the few nations that has the possible luxury of having a relatively low population and all the benefits it can bring. I can list these benefits. Can anyone list benefits of having twice the number of people here than we have now? Three times as many? WHY is it never discussed? Is it really a non-issue??
So, the ones juding this negatively, why not argue as to why it doesn't matter or will not matter in the near future?

Since: Feb 09

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#829 Jun 21, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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Come on now.....Seriously, can we all just get along? We may not agree on things here but insults and threats are NOT the way to initiate change. Can we at least agree that we are all in this pot together now and we need to find a way to continue to make this the greatest country in the world? It is going to take a lot of work but we can do it, if we agree to find common ground and work from there. Still sayin'......
See, Ms M, imo the southern border is not controlled (how could it be with 10s of millions of illegals here- mostly from south of the border), so therefore one does not have a nation without borders.

“The REAL Founding Fathers!!!!!”

Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#830 Jun 21, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Yes I suppose you're right.
Some of them, their discourse is on that level anyway... their racism is worse than whatever anal curses I put on them...
Topix banned me once for confronting white racists on a California city forum (Santa Cruz, ironically). They went on about beaners and wetbacks, but when I began to consistently call them racists I was banned for insulting language, lol...
This is the AA forum. Topix allows a lot of vileness they would take off from other forums. Is this racism against black people? To large extent, yes. I mean... the white racists in here insulting blacks incessantly... I was banned for 1/1,000,000 of that.
Anyway, I shall attempt to maintain more decorum, thanks.
*another big hug*

I enjoy reading and learning from your posts so I don't want to lose them. We need to keep as many intelligent people on this forum as we can. We have enough to deal with fending off the juvenile and ignorant racist attacks from all sides already. One of my favourite quotes really sums it up for me and I find myself thinking about it more and more before answering some of these insane racist ranters.....

'Before you speak ask yourself if what you are going to say is true, is kind, is necessary, is helpful. If the answer is no, maybe what you are about to say should be left unsaid.' Bernard Meltzer

Enjoy your weekend, Sinajuavi.....:)

“The REAL Founding Fathers!!!!!”

Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#831 Jun 21, 2013
sONE wrote:
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So, the ones juding this negatively, why not argue as to why it doesn't matter or will not matter in the near future?
I get a kick out of the rating system here, sONE. It is the best most of these tongue-tied fools can muster because engaging in adult dialogue is beyond their scope. I laugh because they can't remove the posts so they are there with a glare no matter how many peanuts, clueless or spammies they give me.....I hope you and yours are well and getting ready to enjoy a relaxing or fun filled weekend.......:)

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