Black Conservatives Speak out on Illegal Immigration

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The people pushing Comprehensive Immigration Reform don't want you to hear a diversity of voices on the topic, hoping instead to crush debate as they ram their legislation through Congress.

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#648 Jun 20, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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You use “illegals” as a noun for PEOPLE.
And you wish for what? Mass deportation. Ain't gonna happen.
You sound exactly like the white racists mocking the civil rights movement. Same disdain for the victims.
None of this has anything to do with the sovereignty of the USA. It has to do with the human rights of an oppressed class of people whom you gringos abuse in order to sustain your fat parasitic lifestyle.
Abuse? Hardly.

Lawd you just keep on using me, until you use me up!

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#649 Jun 20, 2013
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F you ignorant cowardly traitor. You are incapable of addressing issues, only spewing insult and rhetorical bull$hit, you stinking dittohead.
You should NOT vote, boy, as you can't think. Can you say ANYTHING politically that isn't a cliche you got from Rush or Coulter or some such?
You speak rudely to me in person, boy, you'll find out that leftists are not all pacifists. I will not tolerate your traitorous smartass, you understand me? Don't think so? Let's do lunch, boy, I'll slap some manners and decency into your pathetic ridiculous fascist ass.
Are your parents also racist ignorant traitorous scum like you, boy? I'll bet they are.
LOL! OMG! You're on a roll!

He's really enjoying interacting with you, lol.

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#650 Jun 20, 2013
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Mccain is scum who voted against MLK day, voted against Glass Steagal and seeks to get us involved in every war possible.
Christie is a hypocrite who claimed to be against unnecessary spending while running a special election in out, thus adding millions to the cost of the election, just so he could take a swipe at Cory Booker.
Ron Paul is a nut who wants the government to allow a wild west mentality for corporations.
I get you Emperorjohn. However, my compliments to the two men (and it didn't come easy, trust me on that) was in respect as to how McCain delivered his concession speech in the 2008 election and how he stopped race baiting and name calling at his rallies, unlike that illiterate piece of trash, Palin. As for Christie, trust me, among many in NJ there's no love lost. He's played the shell game with regards to lowering taxes and improving or helping education. He did the exact opposite and of course, aided his rich sponsors. However, it took balls to ask for help from President Obama and thank him for his help knowing full well the rabid and unreasonable hatred of the right who turned on him like the scum buckets they are. He put NJ first as was his job, unlike his Republican counterparts in congress.

I just wanted to clear that up with you.

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#651 Jun 20, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Sinajuavi and you must read the same rags.
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I will just say, you are incorrect to a good degree.
Of course you will say I am incorrect to a good degree, but won't explain why or how, lol. Your answers are short and brief as if your word should be taken and the matter is closed for discussion.

And your credentials on this subject are what? lol.

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#652 Jun 20, 2013
Ms Mack wrote:
I found this interesting commentary from someone warning that the illegal alien invasion and subsequent amnesty will be detrimental to low income Americans:
http://www.wvgazette.com/Opinion/OpEdCommenta...
It would seem logical that letting in largely illiterate people by droves into the country, is not going to be of any benefit?
I read the article, Ms Mack.

It makes some good points, but it also offers an implicit challenge to thinking African-Americans in positions of authority. Instead of accepting the "low-skill" status of millions of African-Americans as a given, why not seek to change that status asap?

Right now there are probably hundreds of African-American high-school educators and principals all across the country who supervise schools that are no more than day-care centers for teens.
Within 5 or 7 years, those same teens will become low-skilled adults and it's a good bet that none of their teachers are losing any sleep over that fact.

Perhaps that complacency on the part of adults needs to change...

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#654 Jun 20, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>I get you Emperorjohn. However, my compliments to the two men (and it didn't come easy, trust me on that) was in respect as to how McCain delivered his concession speech in the 2008 election and how he stopped race baiting and name calling at his rallies, unlike that illiterate piece of trash, Palin. As for Christie, trust me, among many in NJ there's no love lost. He's played the shell game with regards to lowering taxes and improving or helping education. He did the exact opposite and of course, aided his rich sponsors. However, it took balls to ask for help from President Obama and thank him for his help knowing full well the rabid and unreasonable hatred of the right who turned on him like the scum buckets they are. He put NJ first as was his job, unlike his Republican counterparts in congress.
I just wanted to clear that up with you.
Jon Stewart Rips John McCain for Hypocrisy:'You Do Not Get to Pull This Shit'(Video)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/jo...

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#655 Jun 20, 2013
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1) Over the past 25 years I have read volumes on economics including many there were written by the name ones*. It's simple, the world has changed and your fantasy of running a small farm while you wife beats cornmeal with a gourd to make dinner are over. Beam you up Scotty, the future is here.
2) Many are not pacifists but a large number of them are idiots.
3) Worse, my parents were Democrats. Mom smartened up in her old age and switched to Republican. Her action proves there is hope for you. Please shave your knuckles before you make the switch.
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*- You might like the race sell out Thomas Sowell, a black economist forever trying to kiss up to the white man and without a doubt an equal opportunity pick for Stanford University.
Tell me exactly what made you switch from the soft left to the hard right? Was it your small scale experiences with blacks in the inner-city of Allentown? Perhaps your interactions with blacks and hispanics whom you rented or managed properties? If so, how narrow and short-sighted is that? I wouldn't and don't judge all whites from the experiences I had growing up and trust me, I was subjected to some pretty nasty racist treatment as were my mother and father and their kin in the south. It didn't help to watch what was occurring in this nation on TV either to improve the perspective of whites as hateful and mean.

However, I am of the mindset to judge people individually and that saved me from becoming a racist. I came from lowly and poor beginnings. However, that didn't make me hate those still struggling as things improved for me. It made me empathetic (you do understand the term empathy, don't you?) If a trait that's missing amongst those of your mindset. My train of thought was to reach down and try to help someone up, not push them further down, nor demean them or use them.

You seem to think selfishness is a noble trait. Greed is an honorable profession. Caring is for the weak and money is God and only whites on the right are of God. I don't know what type of Christian scriptures you all read and most of you profess to be Christians, but your behavior, words, thoughts and deeds do not come out of any Christian bible I've ever read.

Hearts can become harden or softened over time. It would seem that you and your mother's did exactly that and that's a shame. I am not saying that I totally disagree with everything the Republican says or stands for. However, the current party is replusive, hateful and just plain evil in their attempts to wrest this country and remake it in their image.

You want Monsanto to replace the small farmer with their genentically ehanced foods? Using chemicals that endanger the health of all of us in the name of profits? Profits are the only thing that matter to corporations and placing your trust in them in the name of money is foolhardy.

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#656 Jun 20, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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I read the article, Ms Mack.
It makes some good points, but it also offers an implicit challenge to thinking African-Americans in positions of authority. Instead of accepting the "low-skill" status of millions of African-Americans as a given, why not seek to change that status asap?
Right now there are probably hundreds of African-American high-school educators and principals all across the country who supervise schools that are no more than day-care centers for teens.
Within 5 or 7 years, those same teens will become low-skilled adults and it's a good bet that none of their teachers are losing any sleep over that fact.
Perhaps that complacency on the part of adults needs to change...
Excellent post, Harrison. I might add, that it's not just complacency on the part of these AA educators. Their hands are tied by the state curriculums and their boe standards.

With that said, the empahsis in education in America is that every one will attend college, which is unreasonable and counter-productive. The emphasis should be on skills necessary to enter the workforce in a number of job positions. Emphasis should be placed on Science and Math as early as primary schools. The Asians are surpassings American students because that is where they place their emphasis. Math and Science are standard, world-wide.

There also needs stronger parental involvement. Teachers are expected to discipline, mentor, teach morales and values, etc. These things were the province of parents years ago, not teachers.

Also, there's the extreme problem of children with learning deficits due to the drug dependency of their parents (meth and crack) Educators still don't know what this deficiencies will be and they need to be trained as to how to deal with these children less they become a drain and strain on the nation with various problems once they become adults.

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#657 Jun 20, 2013
RU4 - EEL wrote:
<quoted text>And you use the word "reform" for AMNESTY.
You shouldn't fill your posts with insults if you're going to whine about getting insulted, you pathetic Crybaby.
Good Gawwwwd, PLEASE hire a new writer. Your posts under all of your aliases are the same recycled nonsense.....smh......

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#658 Jun 20, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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You should know better than say that to me.
Barack moaned about the debt... then doubled it.
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Bush was a disappointment, no argument from me. Problem is, the guy who replaced him is little better. Oh and if Hillary gets in...
That's your opinion. There's proof that you're wrong. You simply don't want to admit it, neither do your Republican constituents, lol. Everything is improving, to you and your party's chargin. The housing market, Wall Street, housing construction, the enconomy, etc. The Iraq war is over and the Afganistan army is taking over and American soliders will be coming home. Osama bin Laden is dead. Aren't these the things your party was supposed to take care of? lol.

I do believe that all these leaks coming out are a nefarious attempt to smear the presidency of Obama. That the so-called spying on Americans was instituted by the Bush administration and his "homeland" security agency by Herr Cheney, is lost of most of you Republicans (you can't seem to own up to yor party's misdeeds)so you all try to lay the blame on President Obama.

It's not a stretch to think this when one considers the stolen election, the outing of Valerie Plaim(sp) and other devious tactics of the right.

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#659 Jun 20, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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Good Gawwwwd, PLEASE hire a new writer. Your posts under all of your aliases are the same recycled nonsense.....smh......
Morning, Ms. Truly Divine. How's everything with you? lol. I headed off to work in a few. Just wanted to answer my buddies, lol.

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#660 Jun 20, 2013
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#662 Jun 20, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>Excellent post, Harrison. I might add, that it's not just complacency on the part of these AA educators. Their hands are tied by the state curriculums and their boe standards.

With that said, the empahsis in education in America is that every one will attend college, which is unreasonable and counter-productive. The emphasis should be on skills necessary to enter the workforce in a number of job positions...
Exactly! But I zeroed in on AA educators because that is an "authority position." Just like "state trooper" or "firefighter" - there is a duty to care for others and there is a moral fitness qualification too.

If they KNOW that the curriculum is defective and doesn't serve children's needs, then it's their moral obligation to organize, lobby and agitate for change just like Dr. King would've done. There is a social justice component to their profession even if they don't realize it or are not interested in dealing with it. I know that talking about Dr. King's marches is a heavy trip to lay on ordinary citizens who just want to do their job, collect a paycheck, go home to their families and live their lives...

But they have to realize that they are not *really* doing their job if the majority of their students leave school qualified only for the same jobs as some guy named Jose who barely speaks English and dropped out of school in the 8th grade. LOL - that's not right.

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#663 Jun 20, 2013
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Exactly! But I zeroed in on AA educators because that is an "authority position." Just like "state trooper" or "firefighter" - there is a duty to care for others and there is a moral fitness qualification too.
If they KNOW that the curriculum is defective and doesn't serve children's needs, then it's their moral obligation to organize, lobby and agitate for change just like Dr. King would've done. There is a social justice component to their profession even if they don't realize it or are not interested in dealing with it. I know that talking about Dr. King's marches is a heavy trip to lay on ordinary citizens who just want to do their job, collect a paycheck, go home to their families and live their lives...
But they have to realize that they are not *really* doing their job if the majority of their students leave school qualified only for the same jobs as some guy named Jose who barely speaks English and dropped out of school in the 8th grade. LOL - that's not right.
*Sigh* Agreed. It's sad to say but some of them have the atttiude, "I've got mine" lol. Have you ever read the book, "People Like Us?" It will give you a perspective of "some" of the educator's though patterns. They've begun to look down on some of their own the same way as whites (i.e. they're superior.) However, there are some who work tirelessly against the curriculum and system by various ways. They also devote a lot of their personal time towards mentoring, volunteering, setting up clubs and organizations to address the needs of some of our students.

It's a joint community effort. The cohesive cooperation needed to bring about the changes within our communities is missing. It's not like it was in MLK's day. Even churches, the mainstay of the Black communities are moving out in leiu of Mega Churches, elsewhere.

With the exception of a Corey Booker, where are the leaders? Not talking about the poverty pimps, but true leaders. It would seem we've got a lot of work to do and a lot of things to fight against. It's not going to be easy, that's for sure.

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#664 Jun 20, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>*Sigh* Agreed. It's sad to say but some of them have the atttiude, "I've got mine" lol. Have you ever read the book, "People Like Us?" It will give you a perspective of "some" of the educator's though patterns. They've begun to look down on some of their own the same way as whites (i.e. they're superior.) However, there are some who work tirelessly against the curriculum and system by various ways. They also devote a lot of their personal time towards mentoring, volunteering, setting up clubs and organizations to address the needs of some of our students.

It's a joint community effort. The cohesive cooperation needed to bring about the changes within our communities is missing. It's not like it was in MLK's day. Even churches, the mainstay of the Black communities are moving out in leiu of Mega Churches, elsewhere.

With the exception of a Corey Booker, where are the leaders? Not talking about the poverty pimps, but true leaders. It would seem we've got a lot of work to do and a lot of things to fight against. It's not going to be easy, that's for sure.
I haven't read the book you mentioned, but I'm aware of the psychology you refer to.

There are leaders out there, but just not enough of them. Anyway, thanks for hearing my spin on the whole "illegal immigration" debate. The work I do has never been threatened by illegals so I guess others could accuse ME of having an "I got mine!" attitude...but that's not how I live my personal life.

I am a caring, sharing person and it frustrates me to see AAs gettin' paid (at levels much higher than myself) but not genuinely interested in exercising leadership that helps the less privileged.

In the meantime, I'll watch this "illegal" debate play out knowing that in our hearts, we shouldn't be fearful of any illegal "invasion." As a people we have the collective resources to help ourselves, but we are currently lacking in willpower.
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#665 Jun 20, 2013
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I haven't read the book you mentioned, but I'm aware of the psychology you refer to.
There are leaders out there, but just not enough of them. Anyway, thanks for hearing my spin on the whole "illegal immigration" debate. The work I do has never been threatened by illegals so I guess others could accuse ME of having an "I got mine!" attitude...but that's not how I live my personal life.
I am a caring, sharing person and it frustrates me to see AAs gettin' paid (at levels much higher than myself) but not genuinely interested in exercising leadership that helps the less privileged.
In the meantime, I'll watch this "illegal" debate play out knowing that in our hearts, we shouldn't be fearful of any illegal "invasion." As a people we have the collective resources to help ourselves, but we are currently lacking in willpower.
have you seen what happened in the EU where the liberal left allowed open immigration by the muslims?

for sure, they weren't worried about an INVASION when they opened up their borders in the beginning.

now, it's just the exact opposite. france, uk, germany, denmark, etc. they all want the muslims out.

those people just don't want to assimilate. in fact, get this... they want sharia law.

YOUR lack of concern attitude towards this immigration problem is going to get us into this same problem.

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#666 Jun 20, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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You're a total a$$hole.
Taxes are stealing? LOL... what do you call crappy jobs with low wages and abusive bosses? They are stealing the labor of the people, while destroying the middle class and pushing us all back into serfdom.
No politician should be judged by his libido. By that standard JFK and Eisenhower both fall short.
GW lied to get us into a war which killed and maimed many Yanks and killed over 100,000 Iraqis, and has left Iraq now in the hands of the Iranians. But that lie doesn't bother you, right?
Fool.
Do you kiss your mother with that dirty mouth? Does talking rough to people make you feel better about yourself? I feel sorry for you.
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#667 Jun 20, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>That's your opinion. There's proof that you're wrong. You simply don't want to admit it, neither do your Republican constituents, lol. Everything is improving, to you and your party's chargin. The housing market, Wall Street, housing construction, the enconomy, etc. The Iraq war is over and the Afganistan army is taking over and American soliders will be coming home. Osama bin Laden is dead. Aren't these the things your party was supposed to take care of? lol.
I do believe that all these leaks coming out are a nefarious attempt to smear the presidency of Obama. That the so-called spying on Americans was instituted by the Bush administration and his "homeland" security agency by Herr Cheney, is lost of most of you Republicans (you can't seem to own up to yor party's misdeeds)so you all try to lay the blame on President Obama.
It's not a stretch to think this when one considers the stolen election, the outing of Valerie Plaim(sp) and other devious tactics of the right.
do you really believe we are better off with obama?

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#668 Jun 20, 2013
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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I believe you meant to say, I am dealing with people on here WHO have short attention spans. Now, how did that apply to what I posted? Just wondering......
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I believe that we understood what this poster meant, and there is no need to correct his/her every post.
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#669 Jun 20, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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You use “illegals” as a noun for PEOPLE.
And you wish for what? Mass deportation. Ain't gonna happen.
You sound exactly like the white racists mocking the civil rights movement. Same disdain for the victims.
None of this has anything to do with the sovereignty of the USA. It has to do with the human rights of an oppressed class of people whom you gringos abuse in order to sustain your fat parasitic lifestyle.
I'm not a white person. and I want mass deportation.

I believe most americans want mass deportation. and I believe it will come about.

if we don't get it, there will be civil war.

these illegals from mexico do not want to assimilate, they want to take over.

one only needs to open their ears and listen to what they are saying to realize this.

LISTEN..

http://americanpatrol.com/FEATURES/010608NIGH...
http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/billr...

the people talking in the above videos are not low life unknowns. they are guys like bill richardson, juan hernandez, joe baca, antonio villaraigosa, fabian nunez, etc.

if you don't know who they are, perhaps you should google their names and find out.

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