Black Conservatives Speak out on Illegal Immigration

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The people pushing Comprehensive Immigration Reform don't want you to hear a diversity of voices on the topic, hoping instead to crush debate as they ram their legislation through Congress.

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#419 Jun 16, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>The fight you and I had over whether the bombers were white or black. Remember that thread? We've been buddies for a long time and I cannot believe you went off on me like that. Never had I uttered an anti-jewish slur and I think you couldn't grasp or just got frustrated that we weren't going along with your line of thought. It wasn't the thread for that and you just flipped out.
Remember now?
I am civil where racism is absent.

Bombers... well it turns out of course that what is relevant is that they were Muz...

This one in Santa Monica, I find curious that he has an Arab last name and nothing about that was mentioned.

The racism in that thread, as I recall, wasn't anti-Jewish so much as anti-white.

“I'm a proud grandma”

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#420 Jun 16, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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You're braindead.
If the USA via corporations and governmental interference controls Mexico, then who's fault is it, dimwit?
LOL at you fat parasitic gringos.
And I'm living here in Allentown... and they're tearing all the factories down...
Who's fault was that, dimwit?
Some of you Yanks are really dense.
Another argument against legalization here, seeing as how the current jobless rates do not support more folks being legalized, a la Allentown .

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#421 Jun 16, 2013
Just An Honest Man wrote:
<quoted text>Warner Ave and 8 mile in Detroit. Come get me punkette.
That's a bit far to go to look for some coward who's home at Mommy's house hiding behind the couch...

Come a bit further South.

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#422 Jun 16, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Another guy making the argument that the Mexicans are the walking dead.
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Good thing I'm not Mexican, I'd really feel insulted.
Deal with the question, dumbass.
Is what happened to Allentown to be blamed on the people living in Allentown? No outside power was involved? Get it, dimwit?
You should not discuss matters about which you know nothing, boy.

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#423 Jun 16, 2013
Ms Mack wrote:
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Another argument against legalization here, seeing as how the current jobless rates do not support more folks being legalized, a la Allentown .
The illegal immigrants are already working!

I have not yet seen anyone with either blonde or nappy hair lining up for agricultural jobs...

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#424 Jun 16, 2013
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The other side of the coin is they will also be eligible to suck on the social service t@t, when they are now legal to get more SNAP, Medicaid, welfare and increase the rolls on Social Security and SSI.
You do realize that the current parents that are illegals and excluded from the SNAP grants with the anchor babies, will be adding themselves on to get more from the government, right?
On the other hand, with legal status their earnings will increase, and their taxes.

Anchor babies? Shall we tell children that they are “anchor babies”? Do their parents think of them that way?

I attempted to have my daughter registered as a Spanish citizen, since she was born in Spain, but since neither parent was Spanish, they wouldn't do it. Different laws than here. But does that make my daughter an “anchor baby” or something? I mean we didn't have her for that purpose. Had she been made a Spanish citizen, that would have given us permanent residency, I suppose. We were doing it to give her the option, not us.

In any case, it's like calling people “aliens”. They're not aliens, they're humans from earth.

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#425 Jun 16, 2013
Stag_R_Lee wrote:
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Years ago, anti Semitism was determined by identifying folks who hate Jews. Today, it's defined by identifying folks who Jews hate. You are anti Semitic, for example, if you post complaints about folks who steal U.S. nuclear secrets, or an opposing view on what's happening to Palestinians, complain about murdering members of a peace group on the high seas, machine gunning a non combative U.S. vessel--killing a number of U.S. service men, advocating a peaceful solution to events occurring in the Middle East, a fair and equitable solution to the refugee problem, religious freedom and not attacking a people based on their religion by cultivating an atmosphere of hatred and fear.
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Your personal views of the actual suffering of Jews, historically, simply don't count. The sad thing is that most of the hate merchants don't even know or understand Jewish history or the impact the OldTestament has had on Black people here in the U.S. Anti Semitism has been reduced to a rhetorical club to be used by dim witted thugs against folks whose views are not consistent with their own,
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In short, LIVE WITH IT!
Of course you would spew this antisemitic nonsense, since you're a Muz.

No, the attacks against Israel and Jews are antisemitic. It is RACIST to single out the Jewish ethnicity for deprivation from their homeland, as well as distorting the actions taken in self-defense by that nation.

Everyone on earth, apparently, has the right to self-defense except the Jews.

“Palestinians”? Who are they? There was no such ethnic group ever spoken of before al-Husseini, a Nazi. I think that tells the whole story right there. The founder of the “Palestinian” movement was a Nazi war criminal! LOL!!!

Palestinazi movement.

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#426 Jun 16, 2013
Brenda besson wrote:
<quoted text> lol lol lol lol lol u are very funny u always tell it how it is not racist just watching for ur country these ppl are racist coming ilegals demanding rights pumping out kid 5678of them so they can stay.i say kill the bill they dont deserve to live here!! And then they will acuse us of breaking up there family no wonder mexico doesnt want them
Another racist. They don't deserve to live here? And you do? I prefer them.

Mexico didn't reject these people. The Mexican economy cannot sustain them, so they left for economic reasons. It is USA corporations who control the Mexican economy.

You're vicious talk against Mexico and Mexicans is something you don't dare express publically.

Personally, I like to make racists cry and beg.

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#427 Jun 16, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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I am civil where racism is absent.
Bombers... well it turns out of course that what is relevant is that they were Muz...
This one in Santa Monica, I find curious that he has an Arab last name and nothing about that was mentioned.
The racism in that thread, as I recall, wasn't anti-Jewish so much as anti-white.
I beg to differ. My posts on that thread weren't racist, but merely disproving the topic of the thread which was that the bombers weren't black. That was the topic of the thread. No one disagreed that they weren't Muslim. There are white Muslims as well as Muslims of other races and creeds. You were getting upset because the focus was on race and yes, I understand your frustration with that topic but you are on an AA Forum where AAs are constantly targeted by racists and placed on the defensive. On the other hand, we were trying to show how shocked those racist posting on the thread were to find that the terrorist looked like them. They so wanted them to be dark-skinned. It isn't something black americans weren't surprised about, we know they're muslims of different nationalities as their are christians and jews.

Anyhoo, hopefully we peaced this misunderstanding out.

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#428 Jun 16, 2013
These stereotypical views of people of Mexican ethnicity are disgusting and in my experience have been proven wrong. The same thing applies to black people. I was living for a long time among Mexicans, and have now moved to an area which is about 75% black. And of course all stereotypes are blown to hell.

OMG I'd heard on Topix from Oh-Really and his 101 sockpuppets all about what black people were like, but golly gee here I am and they're not like that at all.

So I ask, how many of you actually know illegal immigrants? Have spoken with them? I understand that most of you cannot speak Castilian, but then... what do you really know? About immigrants or about Mexico?

Don't mind me, but I've been educated in these matters, via the books and professors of both countries (USA and Mexico), speak Castilian, read Mexican newspapers, have been in most Mexican states, have lived and worked among Mexican people for decades... so what do I know?

There are some white people near here who party and one smells mota (marijuana) all the time near their house, but then they take care of their kids, don't bother anyone except by taking up the parking places, are cool with everyone.

I just can't find a stereotype anywhere here. Yet they're easy to find on Topix... hmmm...

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#429 Jun 16, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Another racist. They don't deserve to live here? And you do? I prefer them.
Mexico didn't reject these people. The Mexican economy cannot sustain them, so they left for economic reasons. It is USA corporations who control the Mexican economy.
You're vicious talk against Mexico and Mexicans is something you don't dare express publically.
Personally, I like to make racists cry and beg.
Now don't blow a gasket, but I did read something that blew me away and that is one of the richest (or richest?) man in the world is Mexican? How does one man, from one of the poorest countries in the world amass that much money and yet his countrymen are starving and seeking to immigrant to other lands? You have to admit that this is beyond belief. I was stunned to read that. It was in Forbes Magazine.

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#430 Jun 16, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Another guy making the argument that the Mexicans are the walking dead.
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Good thing I'm not Mexican, I'd really feel insulted.
It's impossible for you to be insulted. I found that out very quickly, lol.

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#431 Jun 16, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>Now don't blow a gasket, but I did read something that blew me away and that is one of the richest (or richest?) man in the world is Mexican? How does one man, from one of the poorest countries in the world amass that much money and yet his countrymen are starving and seeking to immigrant to other lands? You have to admit that this is beyond belief. I was stunned to read that. It was in Forbes Magazine.
Ahhh... just now finding out about Carlos Slim, eh?
Yeah, those Caucasian (in his case, Lebanese) Mexicans are ruthless, corrupt and have no shame.
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#432 Jun 16, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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How stupid are you, traitor boy?
If they're legal, they have a SS number, they pay taxes, FICA, etc., from their paycheck... Get it, numbskull?
Many are paying taxes now, but can't file returns because they are using fake documents. Legality solves all of that. They are already productive contributors in this society... if legalized, they contribute even more.
This argument is even being used in Congress by those pushing for immigration reform. The only argument against it is from Ugly AmeriKKKans like you whose only argument is,“But they broke the law!” LOL!!!
You simple-minded twerp. I'll slap that bigotry out of you, boy.
sin huevos, ignorant boy... you sound very desperate! You must be illegal yourself.....reason for your drowning futile attempt to convert posters to your mentality. LOL! LOL! it ain't working, especially with your charming personality, oh, I love this, beware with your anguish, might cause yourself a hernia or blood clot in your hollow empty brain! might do you some good to think positively of American citizen posters and their concerns. Good, kind and understanding thoughts GO A LONG WAY: where as negative ones bring only darkness into your life as is obvious from your comments which draw additional bad vibes if continued by you. Ta Ta! pleasant Sunday to you.

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#433 Jun 16, 2013
Harrisson wrote:
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Ahhh... just now finding out about Carlos Slim, eh?
Yeah, those Caucasian (in his case, Lebanese) Mexicans are ruthless, corrupt and have no shame.
Yes, and I was shocked! You've got this man sitting on vast wealth and his people risking death and limbs to escape to our country because they're starving and destitute. One has to wonder just what the hell is going on here.

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#434 Jun 16, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>I beg to differ. My posts on that thread weren't racist, but merely disproving the topic of the thread which was that the bombers weren't black. That was the topic of the thread. No one disagreed that they weren't Muslim. There are white Muslims as well as Muslims of other races and creeds. You were getting upset because the focus was on race and yes, I understand your frustration with that topic but you are on an AA Forum where AAs are constantly targeted by racists and placed on the defensive. On the other hand, we were trying to show how shocked those racist posting on the thread were to find that the terrorist looked like them. They so wanted them to be dark-skinned. It isn't something black americans weren't surprised about, we know they're muslims of different nationalities as their are christians and jews.
Anyhoo, hopefully we peaced this misunderstanding out.
I think this AA reaction was overblown... like they were desperate that they be white so they could add them to the list, like it's a contest.

My interest was not in defending white people, but in not letting Islam off the hook.

Sorry if we got into it over the wrong issue. I think I felt you'd gotten too bigoted on the whites, but of course as usual I have to admit that I on occasion have made a few comments regarding that particular ethnic group...

I think we were both heated up over that issue, you for the reasons you state, me over Islam and very frustrated that everyone wanted to make these Chechens out to be suburban white boys from the USA when in fact they were jihadis. Perhaps a bit trigger-happy.

This matter of terrorists as well as the mass shooters (who are indeed mostly white) is interesting and even ironic. If those Chechens had been labeled “Arabs” or especially “Palestinians”, they'd have passed easily, and everyone would have denied that they were white. But everyone heard “Russia” and so that meant “white”. Chechens were once quite Aryan but apparently are now mostly of Mideastern (“Arab”) ancestry.

Yes, anyway we should get back to reaming racists.

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#435 Jun 16, 2013
petro wrote:
<quoted text> sin huevos, ignorant boy... you sound very desperate! You must be illegal yourself.....reason for your drowning futile attempt to convert posters to your mentality. LOL! LOL! it ain't working, especially with your charming personality, oh, I love this, beware with your anguish, might cause yourself a hernia or blood clot in your hollow empty brain! might do you some good to think positively of American citizen posters and their concerns. Good, kind and understanding thoughts GO A LONG WAY: where as negative ones bring only darkness into your life as is obvious from your comments which draw additional bad vibes if continued by you. Ta Ta! pleasant Sunday to you.
I was born in the USA.

You must be 13 years old so I shouldn't use any “bad words”.
petro

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#436 Jun 16, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>Are you ready to play nice and apologize? If so, we can continue our dialog as I agree with most of your posts (up to a point) as long as you remember to be a gentlmen and temper your outburst.
out of the question, he has no huevos.
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#437 Jun 16, 2013
Sinajuavi wrote:
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Of course you would spew this antisemitic nonsense, since you're a Muz.
No, the attacks against Israel and Jews are antisemitic. It is RACIST to single out the Jewish ethnicity for deprivation from their homeland, as well as distorting the actions taken in self-defense by that nation.
Everyone on earth, apparently, has the right to self-defense except the Jews.
“Palestinians”? Who are they? There was no such ethnic group ever spoken of before al-Husseini, a Nazi. I think that tells the whole story right there. The founder of the “Palestinian” movement was a Nazi war criminal! LOL!!!
Palestinazi movement.
As I said, they are low life thugs. They don't even know Jewish history, yet they want folks to view their propaganda as credible.
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Yes, thugs who use the term anti-Semitism as a rhetorical club to attack folks who don't agree with them. Above, in Sinajuavi's post we see an excellent example.
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I've shown in the past that there are Jews who oppose the Israeli government's treatment of Palestinians--even brought examples to the board. The thugs skip over that fact. I've shown that Goldstone, a prominent Jew, raised questions about war crimes committed against Palestinians by Israel. The thugs skipped over that fact. I've also shown that Israel, as far back as 1947-48 accepted the UN designation of a Palestinian territory and according to the history,(Truman was U.S.President at the time.) Jews even promoted the concept. That particular fact doesn't make a dent in the arid brains of Sinajuavi and/or his fellow thugs. Al Husseini was an Arab, not a NAZI. He didn't even qualify for the so called "master race." He may have been an ally to WWII Germany, but Arab alliances during WWII is a very, very complex issue. Al Husseini's crime was no greater than that of Gertrude Stein, a wealthy and well known leader in the Jewish community. She supported Hitler's nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Seems to me, if thugs have a complaint about Hitler's supporters, they would start with members in the their own community and not pester folks posting in an African American forum.(Of course Standing up and defending their "beliefs" is not how they operate.) The same view about starting in one's own community should apply to folks who ask that Palestinians get treated fairly. Many, many Jews object to the despicable way Palestinians are treated. President Carter wrote a book lamenting the issue and speaking for the Palestinians.(Of course, Jimmy Carter was not a thug. He was a naval officer who would have sacrificed his life for our country.)
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Believe it or not, Blacks have their own problems. The last thing we need is a bunch of lies told by mentally deficient thugs.

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#438 Jun 16, 2013
Sunobia wrote:
<quoted text>Now don't blow a gasket, but I did read something that blew me away and that is one of the richest (or richest?) man in the world is Mexican? How does one man, from one of the poorest countries in the world amass that much money and yet his countrymen are starving and seeking to immigrant to other lands? You have to admit that this is beyond belief. I was stunned to read that. It was in Forbes Magazine.
How dense are you? I have stated repeatedly that the Mexican government is in cahoots with the USA govt and with corporations to screw the Mexican people. This is common knowledge in the context of Mexican politics, about which you know nothing.

President López Portillo left office one of the richest men in the world. Do the math. Or rather do the structural analysis. The Mexican people are screwed by this arrangement, and I'll repeat, there are 3 parties:

Mexican govt
USA govt
corporations (mostly gringo)

Wow these same people are screwing USA workers also!

Why don't you dimwits think about it and get a clue about who is running things and who is responsible for the mess?

Hint: It's not the guy who crawled through the fence to get a job with a leafblower.

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