Black Conservatives Speak out on Illegal Immigration

Jun 5, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Breitbart.com

The people pushing Comprehensive Immigration Reform don't want you to hear a diversity of voices on the topic, hoping instead to crush debate as they ram their legislation through Congress.

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It's interesting your argument about the Triple Alliance serves to show Arg-Uru-Bra as imperialist minded powers. As fas British involvement;
[Scholars have several theories regarding the origins of the war. The traditional view emphasizes the aggressive policy of Paraguayan president Francisco Solano López towards gaining control in the Platine basin. Conversely, popular belief in Paraguay, and Argentine revisionism since the 1960s, gives a preponderant role to the influence by the British Empire, although the academic consensus is there is little evidence for this theory]
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[Britain and Paraguay
Puppeteers or bystanders?
this one happens to be completely ahistorical. During my reporting in the field and conversations with numerous leading academic experts on the war, I did not come across a shred of evidence that the British government or British businesses intervened in any way, at any point, to encourage or prolong the fighting.]
So much for your outdated conspiracy theories and leftist propaganda, you old hippie commie!
You have not been able to counter anything I have said.
You must have done a helluva lot of drugs in the 60's boy cause your brain is kaput. I bet you use to shoot up too.
If you are ever thinking about doing it again, try injecting pentobarbital for that special kind of trip you don't come back from. Not that anyone will ever miss you, of course.
Imperialist denial. The British controlled the Argentine and Uruguayan economies, did they not? Whose interests were threatened by López' policies, fool? An industrialized Paraguay would be beneficial to Argentina. It was threatening to Britain.

You lying white racist rat. Everything the bloody Euroimperialists have done is justified and right, according to you, you lying apologist for imperial fascism. Goddam traitor to humanity.

You halfwitted butt ranger. I've debunked your every racist pro-imperialist assertion, boy. Now, get out of that occupied land, you evil fat parasitic drunken slaving bastard.

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Your rants and raves on this board have shown your racism and bigotry. Deny it all you want you are a racist.
You also seem to have a problem with comprehending what you read. I simply pointed out that colonies and their citizens that have remained dependent on "the state" have not thrived and those that moved in the direction of economic independence have. The circumstances of their independence or dependence is not part of my observation. You are the one who is speculating on the causes though you are not including all of the facts in your theory. The “blame the white man” theory you subscribe to like the “blame the Jews” theory used by another famous socialist is simplistic at best and dangerous at worst. Using ethnic and/or racial conflict to gain political control can have disastrous consequences.
Your analysis is completely flawed. Like all imperialist apologists you blame the victim.

The ex-colonies have failed to develop because of continuing external interference and control, coming from the same colonial powers: France, UK, Germany, USA, Japan, etc.

Your flawed analysis is nothing but the usual connedservative propaganda... laissez-faire capitalism, ignoring the role that the state in the USA and other rich countries plays in keeping the colonies down... as if capitalism is operating in a political vacuum.

How dare you compare a real analysis of the damage done by Euroimperialism to paranoid Jew hatred? FUUUKKK you, bitxh.- You do not make that comparison to me. I hate Nazis and if you compare me to one in person I will damage your idiotic fascist ass. You got that, scumwad? Now you shut your goddam filthy racist mouth when you think to make that error in the future, got that, you subhuman piece of slithering slime?

Now go slap the lowlife who raised you to be such an ass.

Hitler was no socialist, bitxh. You deluded piece of colonialist apologist filth.

You, a$$hole, need to learn something about the global economy and the history of the last 500 years before babbling your pro-corporate nonsense. Start with an investigation of the World Bank, IMF, etc., in keeping the former colonies down. Then investigate French involvement in the W African economy. Then look at the role of multinational corporations in Indonesia. Then take a tour of a USA-corporate-owned Mexican sweatshop.

Until then, shut your vile mouth.

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Where do you anti-immigrant zealots get the notion that people don't want to learn Spanish? I get around immigrants and if they can speak English at all they want me to speak it, so they'll learn. People are flocking to ESL classes and buying up learn-English tapes in droves.
Women who are housewives often do not learn English, but their kids do.
Then in southwestern NM I know lots of people whose families have been there for a long time, into the 1800's at least, and they all still speak Spanish. But they also speak English, obviously, having attended school in NM. When no non-Spanish speakers were around, we'd habitually converse in both languages, jumping back and forth.
You make it sound like they have some obligation, like they need y'all standing there giving them crap about it. Learn English, learn English... this is the reason I speak Castilian in public... just to let you gringos know that we will continue to speak it and there is NOTHING you can do about it.
A busy housewife has told me, oh I wish I could speak English but when would I learn it? I don't have time for classes and everyone here speaks Spanish to me.
And so what? Do you want to make public comments against that woman? Give her crap? Deport her? Make her wear a yellow patch on her shoulder that says “Spanish”? Why don't we just lynch her...
You get all ballistic over asking that businesses have signs that everyone in the community can read? Not just in the Chinese, or in an alphabet, or characters that limit who can actually read what the sign says?

What is the big deal for you?

And the community that got the signs in "Modern Latin" can continue to appease you and your Mecha crowd, considering that they are not requiring them to put the work "bakery" next to "panaderia", or "meat market or butcher" next to carniceria.

Bringing lynching into it really makes you appear insensitive to those that actually had their languages stolen from them, and were brutalized based on skin tone and ethnic background.

This is clearly not the case for the Senora that you mentioned, and the fact that we have to hear oprima numero dos para Espanol, every time we try to call a business these days.

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You get all ballistic over asking that businesses have signs that everyone in the community can read? Not just in the Chinese, or in an alphabet, or characters that limit who can actually read what the sign says?
What is the big deal for you?
And the community that got the signs in "Modern Latin" can continue to appease you and your Mecha crowd, considering that they are not requiring them to put the work "bakery" next to "panaderia", or "meat market or butcher" next to carniceria.
Bringing lynching into it really makes you appear insensitive to those that actually had their languages stolen from them, and were brutalized based on skin tone and ethnic background.
This is clearly not the case for the Senora that you mentioned, and the fact that we have to hear oprima numero dos para Espanol, every time we try to call a business these days.
I simply do not want people to be coerced. No store owner should be required to put up English signs. In fact in the case of a panadería, it would be confusing. If it said “Bakery”, I'd think they have donuts. A panadería has capirotada, pan de dulce... it is not the same thing as a bakery since the 2 words are associated not only with languages but with cultures.“Carnicería” tell me that they have Mexican cuts of meat. It shouldn't say “Butcher” unless they're selling gringo meat.

I don't understand this reference to “modern Latin”. I mean all Romance languages are “modern Latin”, we could say.

There were cases of Irish people being lynched by the English for speaking Gaelic in public. Are you referring to them? Certainly what was done to AA people is not to be ignored or trivialized, but face it, you weren't the only ones.

The hostility expressed in here toward Mexican immigrants makes lynching an appropriate reference, or the Nazi treatment of Jews. Some in here would like it to get that intense.

And your big conplaint is that you have to oprimir uno para inglés? Hardly worth complaining about.

And in any case... this is America! Speak Spanish!

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obviously, you are muslim.
let me tell you something, genius. the time is coming soon when there will be total war between islam and the rest of the world.
then, we will see who stands no chance.
This is, and never will be a war against Islam..we have been fighting against a handful of radicals that have damn near bankrupted us..get it.

LOL..total war?...you do know it’s you and I that will pay for this war..haven’t you learned anything?...I thought containment was the US way.

Let me tell you.. it will be your grandkids that will suffer if you think we can win a war against terrorists...remember you’ll be pushing up daises while all this sh!t unfolds so be careful what you wish for.

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@Sinajuavi...,

‘Fartwad’ LOL.

I would love to see Texas secede from the Union just to see what would happen LMAO.

Are you saying the SW should revert back to Mexico?..is that what you envisage?

They will more than likely become slave labourers..the current signs are pointing that way..just like Eastern Europeans (EE) in my country.

You and I won’t live to see it but our respective countries are being very accommodating to Mexicans and EE’s...cheap labour is what it all boils down to and competing with China.

On the US side it is gradually becoming pointless to have products manufactured in China..the margins have dwindled to say 5% cheaper now...sooner or later Mexico will become the factory of America IMO...it remains to be seen will that benefit US citizens.

Coupled with that you have piracy in China..major corps are losing big money..it won’t be long before some major US corp pulls out of China...I hope I live to see that.

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This is, and never will be a war against Islam..we have been fighting against a handful of radicals that have damn near bankrupted us..get it.
LOL..total war?...you do know it’s you and I that will pay for this war..haven’t you learned anything?...I thought containment was the US way.
Let me tell you.. it will be your grandkids that will suffer if you think we can win a war against terrorists...remember you’ll be pushing up daises while all this sh!t unfolds so be careful what you wish for.
Oh, there you are idiot. You think you pegged me? All you have is hung yourself with a smidgen of rope. You are so far from the mark, it totally validates what I said of you. Let me just add Young, stupid- to the list.

WHat have you done for America, smeg head?
I certainly don't have to defend my existence to you, but I exist.
As a rightful heir and CItizen. What are you, besides a smeggin idiot immigrant of some kind?

What Homeland did you flee in your hurry to come here and beat on the indigenous? You are one fine Imperialistic. Flee along now, maggot.

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eh? excuse me..what and the f/k was all that about..I was just toying with you.

Flee from my homeland..I did NOT flee... I went on an adventure like my Grandparents did...the US will keep... it isn’t going anywhere..I will be back there..trust.

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When I say the US isn’t going anywhere I mean as a clump of soil..Lambert field will always be there.
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You are ignorant. Anyone with a minimal knowledge of the world knows that what I say is true.
The elephant in the room in this discussino has become the way the poor countries got poor, colonialism, the role of the imperialist powers in creating the problems of the 3rd world.
In 1400 West Africa was richer than Western Europe. What happened?
In 1500 Mexico was far richer than Spain. What happened?
In ad 900 India was richer than the others combined. What happened?
None of you could tell us about the relationship between colonialist-controlled international trade organizations, chiefly WTO, pro-Western 3rd-world govts, miitary aid, corporate activity...
No, just a lot of kneejerk jingoist propaganda from dumbed-down well-propagandized Yank oafs.
me ignorant?

I'm not the one associating modern day countries with things that happened hundreds if not thousands of years ago.

that's like blaming bush for the demise of the roman empire.

not only are you ignorant, you are brain dead, stupid. get off the drugs already. they are not making you smarter.
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Imperialist denial. The British controlled the Argentine and Uruguayan economies, did they not? Whose interests were threatened by López' policies, fool? An industrialized Paraguay would be beneficial to Argentina. It was threatening to Britain.
You lying white racist rat. Everything the bloody Euroimperialists have done is justified and right, according to you, you lying apologist for imperial fascism. Goddam traitor to humanity.
You halfwitted butt ranger. I've debunked your every racist pro-imperialist assertion, boy. Now, get out of that occupied land, you evil fat parasitic drunken slaving bastard.
you are crazy.

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Some Current History of the Land of Mexihell.
What is her excuse now? Russia twisting her arm? The Vatican commands?Mexico: 46 women rescued after sex trafficking bust - CNN.com
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14 million other results. WHile they invade here under the cloak of "Undocumented".

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Will this Immigration Reform issue be kicked down the road to after the 2016 elections? This is a political hot potato!

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me ignorant?
I'm not the one associating modern day countries with things that happened hundreds if not thousands of years ago.
that's like blaming bush for the demise of the roman empire.
not only are you ignorant, you are brain dead, stupid. get off the drugs already. they are not making you smarter.
You moron, the colonies weren't independent until after WW2, and on into the 1970's. This is not centuries ago, you ignorant dried moldy poopwad painfully lodged in a donkey's rectum.

Centuries of exploitation with plenty of violence, many nations pushed into poverty and held there by neocolonialist policies since independence, and you expect to pretend none of this ever happened? I'll slap that ignorance out of you, boy.

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Will this Immigration Reform issue be kicked down the road to after the 2016 elections? This is a political hot potato!
The sooner it is done the better. Legalizing all those people will increase tax revenue and cause the deficit to be paid off sooner. It is beneficial in every way to have those people legalized. It will benefit USA workers as well.

It is the GOP causing problems over immigration reform, just as they do over healthcare, environment, and everything else. They're the Party of Obstructionism as well as Racism.

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you are crazy.
You're a racist misift... just the sort of lowlife we do NOT need in the USA. This country is attempting to evolve away from racism, and reprobates like you try to drag us backwards.

GET THE HELL OUT NOW!!!

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There was just a big bust for human trafficking in the USA, also, you vile subhuman racist misfit.
We've having your permit to breathe oxygen on this planet revoked, a$$wad.
You are powerless. A wimp with a panty wedgie. "We've" having? Learn some grammar you subhuman Neanderthal APe from the SOuth.
Go Home and leave humanity alone. GO shoot em up with your drug lords and crime bosses. Don't forget to say Massa' frequently.

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The sooner it is done the better. Legalizing all those people will increase tax revenue and cause the deficit to be paid off sooner. It is beneficial in every way to have those people legalized. It will benefit USA workers as well.
It is the GOP causing problems over immigration reform, just as they do over healthcare, environment, and everything else. They're the Party of Obstructionism as well as Racism.
Legalizing hordes of people in a welfare state can't possibly cause a net increase in tax revenue.

I am just not seeing it.
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You're a racist misift... just the sort of lowlife we do NOT need in the USA. This country is attempting to evolve away from racism, and reprobates like you try to drag us backwards.
GET THE HELL OUT NOW!!!
YOU are a traitor to the usa. YOU care more for foreigners than you do for America and americans.

YOU side with foreigners who are in the usa illegally. that makes you a criminal. aiding and abetting those who have broken laws to be in the usa.

if anybody needs to be deported out of the country and have their citizenship taken away from them, it's people like YOU.

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Legalizing hordes of people in a welfare state can't possibly cause a net increase in tax revenue.
I am just not seeing it.
Except that no such thing is happening. Mostly, the Latin immigrants come as working people, but commonly for low wages.
The image of the Hispanic immigrants as mainly clients of the welfare state is just as stereotypical as is the same image of our own people, Blacks.
If they're HERE already then it is best they worked and paid taxes as citizens, with all the rights and duties of citizenship.
Mass deportation is simply out of the question unless you want to have a police state to carry it out.

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