Conservative UT students to stage 'immigrant game'

There are 408 comments on the KVUE.com story from Nov 18, 2013, titled Conservative UT students to stage 'immigrant game'. In it, KVUE.com reports that:

A conservative student group announced Monday they will play a "Catch an Illegal Immigrant Game" this week on the University of Texas at Austin, drawing condemnation from Democrats and a threat of expulsion from campus officials.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#76 Nov 19, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
So much misinformation and lies in here that it is truly unbelievable. I am asked for my ID no more or no less than a Hispanic or anyone else in this country and for the same reasons. A traffic violation would be one instance. LE can only ask for ID under lawful contact and they cannot ask status in this country unless they have no viable ID. If someone leaves their ID/DL at home while not driving they (no matter who they are) will be given ample time to retrieve it. NO ONE IS REQUIRED TO CARRY THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE WITH THEM!!!
Yeah sure, the next step to simulating a detention of an illegal will be violent acts. You have a crystal ball to prove that? Or just your biased, idiotic false accusations again?
"You" racists? I am not a racist nor nothing I have said in this forum calls for that accusation but as I have said before if you pro-illegals didn't have the race card to hurl around what would you have? Pro-illegals are among the most racist themselves and demonize anyone falsely for not agreeing with their own racist stance.
I couldn't care less about race in this country. Come legally no matter what race you are. I do want to retain our culture and language however and not lose it via illegal immigration. You know, how Mexicans would feel about their culture and language being diluted via illegal immigration also. So why the accusations of racism only for white Americans when Mexicans would feel the same way?
I couldn't care less what pro-illegals believe of me. Their ethnic blinders and biasness blinds them to the truth. I have never advocated violence against anyone. Another false accusation in here. How many does that make now....6, 10 or more?
No one loses their job for being detained for a short period of time. You're grasping at straws now. Rarely is anyone, Hispanic or not detained falsely because legal immigrants and citizens would have a viable ID on them.
Why this hang up about white people? Why don't you ever mention Blacks, Hispanics or Asians in a negative way? You and your fellow pro-illegals in here constantly show your racism towards white Americans and then have the nerve to accuse me and others of racism for merely wanting our immigration laws respected and enforced. The whole lot of you are despicable!
The only reasons that Mexican get most of the attention in the illegal immigration issue is because they are here by far in the largest numbers illegally. Of course you spin that to racism rather than raw numbers. That doesn't mean that we don't want ALL illegals gone from this country because WE DO!
I have asked several times how wanting our immigration laws respected and enforced makes one a Nazi. Not one single explanation yet. You know why? Because you don't have one. It is just another childish insult that you pro-illegals throw out to demonize law abiding Americans. How do you look yourselves in the mirror everyday?
In most states a drivers license doesn't prove citizenship.

So your statement there will be "hell to pay" if illegals are given amnesty wasn't a veiled threat of violence?

Maybe because most blacks, Hispanics, & Asians aren't virulent racists like most of the white anti-illegal crowd.

So you have no problem with our culture & language being changed if it comes from legal immigration & increased childbirth rates among Hispanic citizens? Good to know.

Stop living in the past; those who came here illegally before today are irrelevant because after all it's in the past.
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#79 Nov 19, 2013
Pro-illegal is just a term coined for those who defend illegal aliens and desire amnesty for them but you knew that, didn't you?

It isn't humane to the American people to give millions of illegal aliens amnesty with 23 million Americans out of work. It never makes sense to reward lawbreaking especially by foreigners. We don't need these people. They will continue to be a fiscal burden on our society even if legalized.

What's inhumane about going back to one's homeland where one belongs? Let em go back there and fix their own countries and protest their own government. They've done nothing to earn our citizenship. Self-deportation is the solution through denying them jobs, benefits and birthright citizenship. How many times does that have to be repeated in here?

I explained what I meant about "hell to pay" if these people are amnestied. I said they would be held in contempt by law abiding Americans. How is that a threat of violence? Spin, much?

All one needs is a valid DL to prove they are legally in this country. A legal immigrant could have one. Or are you saying that the only people allowed in this country are citizens? You know better than that.

What a despicable thing to say about white Americans who simply want our immigration laws respected and enforced! That isn't racist! There are blacks, Asian and Hispanic-Americans opposed to illegal immigration also. Does that make them racist or only whites are racist? But if you want to talk about real racists how about those who think their ethnic group should be above our immigration laws and rewarded for breaking them? No racism there, right?

You're the one living in the past claiming it justifies illegal immigration into our country today, not me.
Oldglory

Banning, CA

#82 Nov 19, 2013
Who's "you"? Those people are all dead now. Tell Mexico to take down their Nazi wall on their southern border trying to keep Guatamalans and other Latinos out whom also have so-called native blood, hypocrite!

The descendants of the tribes who settled within our borders still live within our borders today and are full fledged U.S. citizens. The tribal ancestors of the Mexicans did not settle here they settled way south of us. So their descendants have no rights to U.S. territory. Their country is Mexico not the U.S. Learn some real history instead of that Chicano Studies, Reconquista BS!

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#84 Nov 20, 2013
Illegals raise Mexican flag over Maywood

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“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#85 Nov 20, 2013
Illegals by Race or Country

Mexico continued to be the leading source country of unauthorized
immigration to the United States (see Table 3).

There were 6.6 million
unauthorized immigrants from Mexico in 2010, representing 62 percent
of the unauthorized population.

The next leading source countries
for unauthorized immigrants in 2010 were El Salvador
(620,000), Guatemala (520,000), Honduras (330,000), and the
Philippines (280,000).

The ten leading
countries of origin represented 86 percent
of the unauthorized immigrant
population in 2010.

The number of Mexican-born unauthorized
immigrants increased by 2.3
million between 2000 and 2007 and
decreased by 340,000 between 2007
and 2010.

Changes in the unauthorized
population were much smaller
during either period for other leading
source countries.

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics...

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#86 Nov 20, 2013
Arizona immigration protest turns violent riot

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“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#87 Nov 20, 2013
US Flag desecration - Montbello High School, Maywood P.O.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#88 Nov 20, 2013
Why are they carrying the MEXICAN flag?
Los Brown Berets de Aztlan

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“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#89 Nov 20, 2013
"You Are White, You Don't Belong in America" - Brown Berets at All-Star Game

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#91 Nov 20, 2013
Teen boys plead not guilty in Rancho Peñasquitos rapes

"The girls were accosted at knifepoint by two assailants in the park,
Patrick told the judge. They were led out of the park and across the street,
up an embankment and into a secluded area.

There, Patrick said the girls were forced to take off their clothes and then
sexually assaulted, enduring what the prosecutor told Smyth was "every kind
of rape you can imagine."

The assailants took turns attacking each of the victims during the assault,
which Patrick estimated lasted 30 to 40 minutes. It ended only when the
attackers heard the voices of the girls' family members calling for them.

Before fleeing on a bicycle that was hidden nearby, the two boys threatened
the girls with harm if they told anyone about the assault, Patrick said."

"Patrick said both are in the United States illegally."

Read rest of story below:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/1...

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#92 Nov 20, 2013
(CBS) It was 5 a.m. and CBS News national correspondent Byron Pitts is with a woman who is nine months pregnant. She's rushed to a south Texas hospital to undergo a C-section - a $4,700 medical procedure that won't cost her a dime.

She qualifies for emergency Medicaid.She gave birth to a healthy, 8 1/2 pound baby boy - born in America. His Mexican mother gave him an American name: Eliot.

Eliot is one of an estimated 300,000 children of illegal immigrants born in the United States every year, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. They're given instant citizenship because they are born on U.S. soil, which makes it easier for their parents to become U.S. citizens.

That's because those babies can eventually sponsor their parents - when they turn 21 years old.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#93 Nov 20, 2013
Definitions:

Alien, Immigrant, Illegal Alien, Undocumented Immigrant

These related terms are often used in deliberately confusing and conflicting ways. Here is a set of definitions that will help you sort out the
difference.

IMMIGRANT: In popular usage, an "immigrant" is generally understood to be a
person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.
Under this definition, therefore, an "immigrant" is an alien admitted to the
U.S. as a lawful permanent resident. The emphasis in this definition is
upon the presumptions that (1) the immigrant followed U.S. laws and
procedures in establishing residence in our country; (2) he or she wishes to
reside here permanently; and (3) he or she swears allegiance to our country
or at least solemnly affirms that he/she will observe and respect our laws
and our Constitution.

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner --
a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to
our country.

ILLEGAL ALIEN: An "illegal alien" is a foreigner who (1) does not owe
allegiance to our country; and (2) who has violated our laws and customs in
establishing residence in our country. He or she is therefore a criminal
under applicable U.S. laws.

The term "illegal alien" is used by U.S. citizens who believe that
non-citizens entering our country must comply with our immigration laws.

The term "illegal alien" is predicated upon U.S. immigration law
which requires foreigners entering the U.S. to comply with our country's
rules and laws regarding entry into, and residence within, our country.

UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT: The term "undocumented immigrant" is an oxymoron (the parts conflict). An immigrant is synonymous with "permanent legal
resident."

The old term for the document authorizing a permanent legal resident is "green card." The term "undocumented" is derived from the accurate term "undocumented aliens" who are often called "border crossers."

Proper terms are "illegal alien" or "undocumented alien" but not "undocumented immigrant." Although not commonly used, the term "documented
alien" accurately refers to foreign nationals whohave an unexpired non-immigrant visa such as H-1B.

Most U.S. citizens do not use the term "undocumented immigrant"
and prefer, instead, the more descriptive and accurate term "illegal alien".



The term "undocumented immigrant" is used by those who believe in "open borders", i.e., non-regulation of foreigners entering into and assuming residence in the U.S., including even those foreigners who owe allegiance to a foreign government and/or who may intend harm to the U.S.

http://www.adversity.net/Terms_Definitions/TE...

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#94 Nov 20, 2013
Illegal, but Not Undocumented: Identity Theft, Document Fraud, and Illegal
Employment

The findings include:

a.. Illegal immigrants are not "undocumented." They have fraudulent
documents such as counterfeit Social Security cards, forged drivers
licenses, fake "green cards," and phony birth certificates. Experts suggest
that approximately 75 percent of working-age illegal aliens use fraudulent
Social Security cards to obtain employment.

b.. Most (98 percent) Social Security number (SSN) thieves use their own
names with stolen numbers. The federal E-Verify program, now mandated in
only 14 states, can detect this fraud. Universal, mandatory use of E-Verify
would curb this and stop virtually 100 percent of child identity theft.

c.. Illegal immigration and high levels of identity theft go hand-in-hand.
States with the most illegal immigration also have high levels of
job-related identity theft. In Arizona, 33 percent or all identity theft is
job-related (as opposed to identity theft motivated simply by profit). In
Texas it is 27 percent; in New Mexico, 23 percent; in Colorado, 22 percent;
California, 20 percent; and in Nevada, 16 percent. Eight of the 10 states
with the highest percentage of illegal aliens in their total population are
among the top 10 states in identity theft (Arizona, California, Florida,
Texas, Nevada, New York, Georgia, and Colorado).

d.. Children are prime targets. In Arizona, it is estimated that over one
million children are victims of identity theft. In Utah, 1,626 companies
were found to be paying wages to the SSNs of children on public assistance
under the age of 13. These individuals suffer very real and very serious
consequences in their lives.

e.. Illegal aliens commit felonies in order to get jobs. Illegal aliens
who use fraudulent documents, perjure themselves on I-9 forms, and commit
identity theft in order to get jobs are committing serious offenses and are
not "law abiding."

f.. Illegally employed aliens send billions of dollars annually to their
home countries, rather than spending it in the United States and helping
stimulate the American economy. In October 2008 alone,$2.4 billion was
transferred to Mexico.

g.. Tolerance of corruption erodes the rule of law. Corruption is a
serious problem in most illegal aliens' home countries. Allowing it to
flourish here paves the way for additional criminal activity and increased
corruption throughout society.

h.. Leaders support perpetrators and ignore victims. Political, civic,
religious, business, education, and media leaders blame Americans for
"forcing" illegal aliens to commit document fraud and identity theft. No
similar concern is expressed for the American men, women, and children whose
lives are destroyed in the process.

i.. The Social Security Administration and Internal Revenue Service
facilitate illegal immigrant-driven identity theft. Both turn a blind eye to
massive SSN fraud and take no action to stop it. The Social Security
Administration assigns SSNs to new-born infants that are being used
illegally. The IRS demands that victims pay taxes on wages earned by illegal
aliens using their stolen SSNs, while taking no action to stop the identity
theft.

j.. State and local governments need to adopt tougher laws to supplement
federal efforts. The Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is
targeting large document fraud rings and the most egregious employers, but
their resources are limited and stretched across multiple priorities. In
2007, identity theft cases represented only 7 percent of the total ICE case
load.

k.. Employers must do their part. They can ensure that they have a legal
workforce by using a combination of the federal government's E-Verify and
Social Security Number Verification Service systems and by signing up for
the federal government's IMAGE program or privately conducted audits.

http://www.cis.org/IdentityTheft
angel

Boise, ID

#95 Nov 20, 2013
These idiot xenaphobic tea bagging culls cant face the fact that they are finished.
Their halt and Lame in-bred uneducated white base is aging and dying and shrinking.
And their evil idealogy is headed to the sh*theap of history where it belongs right along with Glenn Beck Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#96 Nov 20, 2013
Agents of Corruption wrote:
Mexican-American college football legend honored at UT Hall of Honor
http://nbclatino.com/2013/11/01/mexican-ameri...
On Friday, Ramirez, now in his 70s, is among four former football players and eight other individuals to be inducted into the UT Men’s Athletics Hall of Honor.
“It was very rare to have a Mexican-American on the team back then,” says David McWilliams, director of the Longhorn Association which organizes the Hall of Honor.“To my knowledge he was the only one at the time.”
“We’re proud to have him in the Hall of Honor,” says McWilliams.“Now you find more Mexican-Americans playing — Texas has Espinosa on the team now — not only at UT, but in the state of Texas and across the nation.”
Was he an illegal alien?

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#97 Nov 20, 2013
Agents of Corruption wrote:
<quoted text>
President Powers Responds to YCT: Immigration Event is not in Line with UT Austin Values
http://www.utexas.edu/news/2013/11/18/yct-gam...
If the members of YCT carry out their plan for “Catch an Illegal Immigrant,” they are willfully ignoring the honor code and contributing to the degradation of our campus culture. And once again, they will have resorted to exercising one of the university’s core values to the detriment of others. Such actions are counterproductive to true dialogue on our campus, and it is unrepresentative of the ideals toward which our community strives.
But it's OK for the UT Austin to turn a blind eye to the illegal aliens on campus??

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#98 Nov 20, 2013
Nyctophiliac_Beast wrote:
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If the Miembros of YCT carry out their Xenophobic Agenda to catch an undocumentado extraterrestre they are willingly Ignorando el código de honor and contribuyendo to la degradación de their campus cultura. And once again they will have recurrido to ejercitar one of the universidades valores to the detrimento of others. Such acciones are counterproductivas to true dialogo on nuestro campus, and it is representable of los ideales toward cuales our communidad strives.
Miss your English LANGUAGE class again??
angel

Boise, ID

#99 Nov 20, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
But it's OK for the UT Austin to turn a blind eye to the illegal aliens on campus??
I do hope the Right continues its mindless racist pogrom against Hispanics.
We wont see another Repub in the Whitehouse in our lifetimes.
Brilliant stategy you Teabagging Culls!LMAO!

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#100 Nov 20, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Yep, the GOPasaurs are intent on becoming their own minority party- the racist white minority.
Saul Alinsky

Rule # 5

5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

It ain't working.

LOL!!!

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#101 Nov 20, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>

Yep, that's the basis of racial profiling.
Congrats on being just another ignorant bigot.
Saul Alinsky

Rule # 5

5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

It ain't working.

LOL!!!

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