Is immigration reform dead in the Hou...

Is immigration reform dead in the House?Is immigration reform dead in ...

There are 431 comments on the USA Today story from Nov 14, 2013, titled Is immigration reform dead in the House?Is immigration reform dead in .... In it, USA Today reports that:

House Speaker John Boehner startled immigration advocates this week when he said his chamber would never consider a sweeping immigration bill passed by the Senate and wouldn't commit to voting on Despite a rush to write the obituary for immigration reform, House Speaker John Boehner has not closed the door on the issue entirely.

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Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#72 Nov 15, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree with your assertion that the Latino is a one-issue voter. Many are below middle class economically, as are so many others in this country, and they have seen graphic evidence of Republican indifference to their needs. The amnesty issue just adds more fuel to the fire.
True they do like the freebees as many of those below middle class but as Hispanics become more affluent and realize who pays for the "free stuff" that changes not to mention the pro-life stance that this primarily Catholic group favor.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#73 Nov 15, 2013
Nyctophiliac_Beast wrote:
<quoted text>
You got the f*cking answer deep down your throat! The only one has "special" needs here is YOU. Tard.
Oh, so now you are going to resort to childish insults and foul language? My how adult of you.

I want you to admit that the majority of Latinos think their ethnic group is special and should be above our immigration laws and rewarded for breaking them and then explain why they/you think they are so special. That is the main reason they are voting Dem no other issue compares. They have no "special" needs otherwise. It is ethnocentric and racist to be so self-serving that they don't give a damn about anyone else including what is best for this country. You won't admit to any of the above though, will you. It's ok we for the rule of law know how the majority of Latinos think and yet we should legalize millions more of them with that anti-American, selfish mindset? And by the way, the truth is not racist.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#74 Nov 15, 2013
Nyctophiliac_Beast wrote:
<quoted text>
Which means Republicans are either not as well educated as Democrats or are just plain ingnorant, arrogant, sexist, homophobic, and racist. LOL
You and your fellow travelers are so full of sh*t and hatred it isn't even funny. It is your group that is dividing this country. For ignorance, arrogance, racism, etc. look in your own backyards.

“Happiness comes through giving”

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Since: Feb 08

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#76 Nov 15, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
<quoted text>
That's utter BS! I am not wealthy and I certainly agree with most of the GOP's views. That goes for millions more Americans that aren't wealthy either. Stop drinking the leftist Kool-Aid.
What's an "undocumented immigrant"? The topic is illegal aliens. Yes, they would be rewarded for breaking our immigration laws by granting them amnesty.
I have never advocated rounding up 12 millions or so ILLEGAL ALIENS. What I advocate for is removing all incentives for them to remain here. Most would leave on their own.
They don't deserve our citizenship. How have they earned it? By stealing American jobs and taxes? By thumbing their noses at our immigration laws? Is that what you call reason to grant someone our citizenship?
First of all, if you were born in the United States, you haven't necessarily done anything to earn your citizenship either.

Second, I'm well aware that you agree with most of the GOP's views. The question is, what influenced you toward those beliefs? Could it have been a windfall of GOP money eating into your brain? Look, the same holds true of Democrat money. It's just that they get less of it.

I'm of the opinion that most Americans have little time to pay much attention to the issues. That is why money can make such a difference, with advertising, and with media overall. Politicians on all sides are trying to tell us what to think. Therefore, the more exposure a politicians can buy vs. their opponents, the greater their chances of convincing you of their views.

I see you subscribe to Romney's plan of self-deportation. How do discover who those 12 million are? Then how many incentives can you remove to make self-deportation more desirable to them, since most came here from a hellhole?

Finally, "undocumented immigrant" is the term we civilized liberals use to describe "illegal aliens". I guess it's just our bleeding hearts.

“Happiness comes through giving”

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#78 Nov 15, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
<quoted text>
True they do like the freebees as many of those below middle class but as Hispanics become more affluent and realize who pays for the "free stuff" that changes not to mention the pro-life stance that this primarily Catholic group favor.
If Hispanics become more affluent, it won't happen as a result of anything the Republicans did for them. And they'll know it.

And yes, Catholic Hispanics are generally pro-life. See how that helped the GOP in the last election. I'll save you the trouble:
Obama ...75%
Romney...21%
imaginaryfriend

Plymouth, MI

#79 Nov 15, 2013
The Block party won't pass anything that Americans want such as ENDA, the Jobs Bill, immigration, increasing the minimum wage, etc.
It is time to oust them from office for extreme contempt for the American People. bring your pitchforks and escort them out of their offices.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#80 Nov 15, 2013
Nyctophiliac_Beast wrote:
<quoted text> I find that pretty funny, i could have sworn it was you and yours that where full of all those things. It's the Republicans that are dividing this country by not willing to work with the Democrats on multiple issues.
Then you either have been brainwashed or misinformed. So the Republicans should work on legislation proposed by the Democrats that isn't good for our country just so they can say they worked with the Democrats? It works both ways bud. The Democrats have been just as obstinant past, present and future in working with the GOP when it doesn't fit their agenda. Pot, kettle, black.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#81 Nov 15, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>If Hispanics become more affluent, it won't happen as a result of anything the Republicans did for them. And they'll know it.
And yes, Catholic Hispanics are generally pro-life. See how that helped the GOP in the last election. I'll save you the trouble:
Obama ...75%
Romney...21%
What is it specifically that the GOP is supposed to do for Hispanics?

Obama - amnesty promises

Romney - none

There lays your reasons that Hispanics voted Dem. They will vote for a candidates who will put their ethnic group above our immigration laws and reward them for breaking them. What does that say about Latinos? What does that say about a party who won't honor our immigration laws just to get votes?
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#82 Nov 15, 2013
Nyctophiliac_Beast wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, i will finally admit it! We as Latin Americans ALL feel like we are above your immigration laws and should be rewarded for breaking them simply because we are in fact indigenous to the continent, Full blooded or Mixed blooded we are still The Indigenous Peoples Of The Americas. Don't believe me? look it up!
You are not indigenous to this continent. You migrated here just as the Europeans did. You are not citizens of the U.S. and every country on this continent has immigration laws. The descendants of the tribes who settled within our borders are citizens of this country. The tribal ancestors of the Mexicans did not and therefore have no claims on this country or any other country on this continent other than Mexico.
Even the individual tribes from long ago did not allow other tribes to venture onto their claimed lands. No tribe could claim they owned the entire continent. They all warred with each other over land. Are you nuts?
It is you who needs to pick up a history book and drop out of your Chicano studies class while you are at it.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#83 Nov 15, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, if you were born in the United States, you haven't necessarily done anything to earn your citizenship either.
Second, I'm well aware that you agree with most of the GOP's views. The question is, what influenced you toward those beliefs? Could it have been a windfall of GOP money eating into your brain? Look, the same holds true of Democrat money. It's just that they get less of it.
I'm of the opinion that most Americans have little time to pay much attention to the issues. That is why money can make such a difference, with advertising, and with media overall. Politicians on all sides are trying to tell us what to think. Therefore, the more exposure a politicians can buy vs. their opponents, the greater their chances of convincing you of their views.
I see you subscribe to Romney's plan of self-deportation. How do discover who those 12 million are? Then how many incentives can you remove to make self-deportation more desirable to them, since most came here from a hellhole?
Finally, "undocumented immigrant" is the term we civilized liberals use to describe "illegal aliens". I guess it's just our bleeding hearts.
You are living in 2013 not 1413. For hundreds of years anyone born in a country is deemed a citizen of that country and particular if they were born from citizen parents and that is all they have to do to earn citizenship. Just what have illegal aliens or their kids done to earn our citizenship?

You don't have to discover illegal aliens if they have no incentives to remain here so WTH are you talking about? Jobs, benefits and birthright citizenship are the magnets that keep them here. Remove them all and most will leave. And no, most aren't coming from hellholes they just like the better paying jobs here and the freebies they can get.

The immigration law term for those in our country illegally is "illegal alien". There is nothing uncivilized about that term.
Alien = foreigner. Illegal = the adjective that describes their status here. You libs can whitewash that term with PC ones all you want and you can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig as the analogy goes. We know what you are up to. You are trying to erase from people's minds that they are immigration lawbreakers. They have documents anyway....all fake or stolen! So no, they aren't "undocumented".
liberty

Rockmart, GA

#84 Nov 15, 2013
THESE PEOPLE SHOULD RECEIVE NOTHING EXCEPT A RIDE BACK BEEN READING ALL THE COMMENTS AND ANYONE THAT IS FOR IT MUST BE ONE OF THEM THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THEM HERE AND TO END UP PAYING FOR THEM OR THEIR CHILDREN WHY WOULD A COUNTRY WANT TO TAKE ON A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO FIX THEIR OWN COUNTRY THEY WANT NOTHING FROM THIS COUNTRY BUT THE FREEBIES LETS SEE THEM GET FREEBIES FROM THEIR COUNTRY NO THEY ARE TO STUPID ANT THE THING IS THEY WILL NOT EVER BE TOTALLY LOYAL TO THE U.S. OR DEFEND IT AS OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN DO THEY WANT TO FLY THEIR STUPID FLAG AND NOT LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH AND BRING ALL THEIR FILHY CUSTOMS WITH THEM IF THEY WANT TO LIVE BY THEIR COUNTRYS STANDARDS GO BACK AND LIVE THAT WAY ALL THEIR CUSTOMS ARE STUPID WE DO NOT NEED THEM HERE WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN AND IF THEY ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO COME HERE TO HAVE THEIR CHILD THEN YELL THE CHILD IS A CITIZEN THEN OPEN ORPHANGES FOR THESE KIDS O STAY IF THE PARENTS WONT TAKE THEM BACK WHO CARES IF THEIR FAMILY IS TOGETHER THEY BROKE THE LAW START REFUSING THEM ANYTHING NO FREEBIES,NO JOBS,DO NOT RENT TO THEM OR ANYTHING MAKE IT SO HARD FOR THEM THEY WANT TO GO BACK RIGHT NOW OUR PUBLIC SERVICE IS WASTING MONEY ON A AMBER ALERT FOR ONE OF THEIR KIDS THEY WILL PROBABLY END UP ON THE NEWS TALKING THEIR JIPJAP ON THEIR MISSING CHILD SO WHO CARES I WOULD NOT CALL IF I SEEN THE VEHICLE LESS PUBLIC ASSISTANCE YOU KNOW IT IS NOT RIGHT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IF THEY GET TO STAY THE TOPIC THE PRESIDENT HAS FAILES US WELL IF THEY GET TO STAY THEN ALL OF D.C. HAS FAILED ITS OWN PEOPLE THE REAL AMERICAN PEOPLE

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#85 Nov 15, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
There cannot be Amnesty for 30 million people who came into this country illegally. We cannot afford to feed, cloth, and attempt to educate them. No other country in the world would allow the scum of the earth take over their country.
we cannot do that and then do the same for the 33 million new greencard holders the bill also want to bring in on top of it. add in family member or so called family members and the number go sky high.

what would that do to those citizens already out of work and those under employed waiting for a new job opening. what about the returning vets,this bill even shafts those folks who were fighting for us .
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#86 Nov 15, 2013
liberty wrote:
THESE PEOPLE SHOULD RECEIVE NOTHING EXCEPT A RIDE BACK BEEN READING ALL THE COMMENTS AND ANYONE THAT IS FOR IT MUST BE ONE OF THEM THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THEM HERE AND TO END UP PAYING FOR THEM OR THEIR CHILDREN WHY WOULD A COUNTRY WANT TO TAKE ON A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO FIX THEIR OWN COUNTRY THEY WANT NOTHING FROM THIS COUNTRY BUT THE FREEBIES LETS SEE THEM GET FREEBIES FROM THEIR COUNTRY NO THEY ARE TO STUPID ANT THE THING IS THEY WILL NOT EVER BE TOTALLY LOYAL TO THE U.S. OR DEFEND IT AS OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN DO THEY WANT TO FLY THEIR STUPID FLAG AND NOT LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH AND BRING ALL THEIR FILHY CUSTOMS WITH THEM IF THEY WANT TO LIVE BY THEIR COUNTRYS STANDARDS GO BACK AND LIVE THAT WAY ALL THEIR CUSTOMS ARE STUPID WE DO NOT NEED THEM HERE WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN AND IF THEY ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO COME HERE TO HAVE THEIR CHILD THEN YELL THE CHILD IS A CITIZEN THEN OPEN ORPHANGES FOR THESE KIDS O STAY IF THE PARENTS WONT TAKE THEM BACK WHO CARES IF THEIR FAMILY IS TOGETHER THEY BROKE THE LAW START REFUSING THEM ANYTHING NO FREEBIES,NO JOBS,DO NOT RENT TO THEM OR ANYTHING MAKE IT SO HARD FOR THEM THEY WANT TO GO BACK RIGHT NOW OUR PUBLIC SERVICE IS WASTING MONEY ON A AMBER ALERT FOR ONE OF THEIR KIDS THEY WILL PROBABLY END UP ON THE NEWS TALKING THEIR JIPJAP ON THEIR MISSING CHILD SO WHO CARES I WOULD NOT CALL IF I SEEN THE VEHICLE LESS PUBLIC ASSISTANCE YOU KNOW IT IS NOT RIGHT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IF THEY GET TO STAY THE TOPIC THE PRESIDENT HAS FAILES US WELL IF THEY GET TO STAY THEN ALL OF D.C. HAS FAILED ITS OWN PEOPLE THE REAL AMERICAN PEOPLE
that was perfect, every word was true, thank you.

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#88 Nov 15, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
<quoted text>
What is it specifically that the GOP is supposed to do for Hispanics?
Obama - amnesty promises
Romney - none
There lays your reasons that Hispanics voted Dem. They will vote for a candidates who will put their ethnic group above our immigration laws and reward them for breaking them. What does that say about Latinos? What does that say about a party who won't honor our immigration laws just to get votes?
It's not a matter of what the GOP should do for Hispanics, but one of what they should do to improve the lives of average Americans in general. I'd appreciate your telling me what positive things the GOP has done for average Americans in the last 30 years. Essentially, with perhaps a few exceptions, the GOP is the party of the wealthy and the exploited ignorant.
liberty

Rockmart, GA

#89 Nov 15, 2013
THANK YOU WILD CHILD BRENDA WELCOME BACK WE NEED TO STICK TOGETHER THE TRUE AMERICANS
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#90 Nov 15, 2013
Nyctophiliac_Beast wrote:
<quoted text>
You are dumb as* f*ck! watch the videos on the Latin Americans: foreigners on their own land! You do realize lots of full blooded native americans and mestizos got ran off to Mexico if not killed off right? F*ck the Mexican-American War, it was more like the slave owning Nazi-British Confederate Rag waving redneck inbred INVASION! even the African Slaves had to escape to Mexico if they could!
P.S. Your History books are full of shit just as much as you and yours are!
Whatever you say, Mr. foul mouthed, racist Reconquista.
Dan Salazar

AOL

#91 Nov 15, 2013
The President proved himself untrustworthy which will make most any thing he says suspect for the rest of his term. He probably won't resign so we are just stuck in neutral for the the next three years.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#93 Nov 15, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>It's not a matter of what the GOP should do for Hispanics, but one of what they should do to improve the lives of average Americans in general. I'd appreciate your telling me what positive things the GOP has done for average Americans in the last 30 years. Essentially, with perhaps a few exceptions, the GOP is the party of the wealthy and the exploited ignorant.
This is the illegal immigration forum. It isn't here to discuss the pluses and minuses of either party unless it is illegal immigration related. Take it to the proper forum.
liberty

Rockmart, GA

#94 Nov 15, 2013
THERE GOES THAT STUPID AMBER ALERT AGAIN GOING OFF BEEN GOING OFF ALL DAY CHECK ICE OR THE BORDER PATROL
ronnie

Brigham City, UT

#95 Nov 15, 2013
Nyctophiliac_Beast wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, i will finally admit it! We as Latin Americans ALL feel like we are above your immigration laws and should be rewarded for breaking them simply because we are in fact indigenous to the continent, Full blooded or Mixed blooded we are still The Indigenous Peoples Of The Americas. Don't believe me? look it up!
My God, you need to study anthropology Mister. Indeginous Hispanics 10.000 years ago came to South America via China. You are descended from Asians as the Continents were connected. American Indians were not Hispanic or Latino. Your indigenous brother's were never above the Rio Grande, until Cortex and Spanish conquerors sent them up to build Spanish Missions. American Indians drove Latinos back to their homeland, kinda like we, the conquerors of North America are trying to do in order to get rid of South Americans again. I'm sorry you're resentful of America, you cannot compete legally with our Country and have chosen to simply steal parts of this Country and it's rich's. Remember something my friend, it's not your fatherland that enrichs you, it's us racist white and black Americans that civilized and developed this part of the continent. Grow up, accept the reality that liberals,have always voted Dem. and they are all still poor. Wonder why?

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