Is immigration reform dead in the Hou...

Is immigration reform dead in the House?Is immigration reform dead in ...

There are 431 comments on the USA Today story from Nov 14, 2013, titled Is immigration reform dead in the House?Is immigration reform dead in .... In it, USA Today reports that:

House Speaker John Boehner startled immigration advocates this week when he said his chamber would never consider a sweeping immigration bill passed by the Senate and wouldn't commit to voting on Despite a rush to write the obituary for immigration reform, House Speaker John Boehner has not closed the door on the issue entirely.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#453 Nov 23, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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And just what is wrong with that? Is it wrong for Mexicans to want to retain their Hispanic identity and the Spanish language, hypocrite? How about China and Japan is it wrong for them to want to retain their languages and Asian identity as a country, hypocrite? No country in the world would want to lose those things via illegal immigration. Interesting how you left that out.
Ethnocentricism is putting one's ethnic group above our laws like they are special or something. It is also racist.
Yes, you're a racist and there IS something wrong with that.

You've made it quite clear you're absolutely terrified of the possibility of not being in the majority anymore.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#454 Nov 23, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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You mean those polls held in Florida which is heavily Hispanic dominated or those where the questions were asked in Spanish? LOL! Game over or not I am glad that we still have some politicians who respect our immigration laws and care about the American people. What does it say about American citizens who don't? You know...like you!
No, I mean every poll.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#455 Nov 23, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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According to the KKK they're just "normal people objecting to illegal immigration too. You're no different.
The only reason I look forward to the coming Hispanic majority in America is I know how much it absolutely terrifies racists like you!
I mean just look how apoplectic you've become at even the thought of not being part of the majority anymore!!
Maybe if you hold your breath and stick your fingers in your ears you can prevent it from happening!!!
No the KKK is not normal. They are racists but just because they may also object to illegal immigration doesn't mean that normal people are wrong for doing so or that they agree with the other viewpoints of the KKK. You act more idiotic in here with every post. You're starting to foam at the mouth now. La Raza is just the brown version of the KKK, hypocrite!

You're the racist to want to see our demographics, culture and language changed DUE TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. I have no problem with legal immigration and the melting pot. You can's seem to decipher between legal immigration which is desirable and illegal immigration that is not and it is also unlawful. You make me sick! Look in the mirror at your own racism, you effing hypocrite!

Would you call Mexicans in Mexico racists for not desiring an unnatural change to their country via ILLEGAL IMMiGRATION? Of course not because you are a hypocrite! GFY!!!!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#456 Nov 23, 2013
I couldn't care less which race is dominant in this country. I am not hung up on skin color or race. It is about preserving our culture, identity as a country and our nation's language. That won't be the case with continued illegal immigration into our country. It is neither natural nor lawful.
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#457 Nov 23, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
I couldn't care less which race is dominant in this country. I am not hung up on skin color or race. It is about preserving our culture, identity as a country and our nation's language. That won't be the case with continued illegal immigration into our country. It is neither natural nor lawful.
nothing wrong with how you feel.these people on here are anti american or hispanic.ignore and laugh.I do.
sandy1

Southold, NY

#458 Nov 23, 2013
wild child wrote:
<quoted text> nothing wrong with how you feel.these people on here are anti american or hispanic.ignore and laugh.I do.
Yes,they are. I crack up when I read their posts.

P.S. I made sure my spelling was correct.

ROTFLMAO!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#459 Nov 23, 2013
wild child wrote:
<quoted text> nothing wrong with how you feel.these people on here are anti american or hispanic.ignore and laugh.I do.
What I don't understand is how they can look themselves in the mirror being the lying, hateful hypocrites that they are. They act so adolescent with their constant accusations of racism with no basis for it whatsoever. It is merely to cover up their own racism. They must have been born without a conscience.

I am not racist against anyone. I am not looking to preserve a white majority but to preserve our country's identity, culture and language and not lose it via ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION which is neither natural nor lawful. These same hypocrites would never call Mexicans in Mexico racists for objecting to the same thing and you know damned well they would and rightly so!

I embrace legal immigration in numbers that will benefit our country and not burden it and I don't give a damn what skin color or race they are either. One criteria would also be that they respect our country, our laws and its culture and language. I would and do welcome those kinds of immigrants.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#460 Nov 23, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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No the KKK is not normal. They are racists but just because they may also object to illegal immigration doesn't mean that normal people are wrong for doing so or that they agree with the other viewpoints of the KKK. You act more idiotic in here with every post. You're starting to foam at the mouth now. La Raza is just the brown version of the KKK, hypocrite!
You're the racist to want to see our demographics, culture and language changed DUE TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. I have no problem with legal immigration and the melting pot. You can's seem to decipher between legal immigration which is desirable and illegal immigration that is not and it is also unlawful. You make me sick! Look in the mirror at your own racism, you effing hypocrite!
Would you call Mexicans in Mexico racists for not desiring an unnatural change to their country via ILLEGAL IMMiGRATION? Of course not because you are a hypocrite! GFY!!!!
Neither are you; that was kinda my point. YOU think you're normal, just as the KKKers think they're normal. That would be yet another thing you have in common with them. I'm sure if I cared to delve any deeper into your psyche (which I don't), we'd discover even more things you have in common with the KKKers- like an opposition to marriage for same-sex couples. Yep, you're just a pillowcase hood away from full membership.

And yes, Mexicans are racist if their opposition to immigration- legal or otherwise- is based on race. Of course they can't hold a candle to US immigration policy which was based entirely on race, ethnicity, & country of origin to maintain the white "melting pot".

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#461 Nov 23, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
I couldn't care less which race is dominant in this country. I am not hung up on skin color or race. It is about preserving our culture, identity as a country and our nation's language. That won't be the case with continued illegal immigration into our country. It is neither natural nor lawful.
You mean preserving our white culture & identity, and English as our language regardless of the majority.

Whether natural or lawful, our culture & identity & language is changing regardless.

You can fight it to your last dying gasp (which will likely be soon), and rail against the injustice of it all, or you can accept it and move on.

The choice is yours.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#462 Nov 23, 2013
wild child wrote:
<quoted text> nothing wrong with how you feel.these people on here are anti american or hispanic.ignore and laugh.I do.
And how successful was your ignorance & laughter at preventing non-hispanic whites from becoming just another minority in California?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#463 Nov 23, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
I embrace legal immigration in numbers that will benefit our country and not burden it and I don't give a damn what skin color or race they are either. One criteria would also be that they respect our country, our laws and its culture and language. I would and do welcome those kinds of immigrants.
Wow, for a non-racist, that's a WHOLE LOT of qualifiers to ensure the white culture & identity & English language remains the majority.

Yep, that's the exact same logic behind the previous immigration policies of the US which banned Asians and other non-whites from becoming US citizens.

The more things change...

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#464 Nov 23, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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What I don't understand is how they can look themselves in the mirror being the lying, hateful hypocrites that they are. They act so adolescent with their constant accusations of racism with no basis for it whatsoever. It is merely to cover up their own racism. They must have been born without a conscience.
I am not racist against anyone. I am not looking to preserve a white majority but to preserve our country's identity, culture and language and not lose it via ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION which is neither natural nor lawful. These same hypocrites would never call Mexicans in Mexico racists for objecting to the same thing and you know damned well they would and rightly so!
I embrace legal immigration in numbers that will benefit our country and not burden it and I don't give a damn what skin color or race they are either. One criteria would also be that they respect our country, our laws and its culture and language. I would and do welcome those kinds of immigrants.
So you're not a racist, but you just want to use immigration laws to ensure America remains a white majority English speaking country?

Oh yeah, nothing racist about that...

Gee, that would be ANOTHER thing you have in common with your KKKer buddies.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#465 Nov 23, 2013
Mexicans and other Latinos enjoy the largest quotas by far for legal immigration into our country. There is no discrimination against them no matter what the liars say.

http://blog.ohmygov.com/blogs/general_news/ar...

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

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Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#466 Nov 23, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
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I'm retired but feel for our American blue-collared workers who have lost their jobs to illegal aliens or had their wages reduced. Why do you continue with the nonsense that Americans lack skills, are lazy and are lacking in education? You're such a damned hateful liar! How many times do you have to told that it is simply because illegals work cheaper to fatten the wallets of their greedy employers and that is the real reason they hire them? WTH is wrong with you that you hate Americans so much? Move to Mexico if you are so in love with Hispanics including their lawbreaking illegal kind. You don't belong in this country, you traitor!
May I suggest a few things?

Illegals for the most part do not perform what one would consider "skilled labor", but work that no Americans want to do. This was proven in Georgia, when the state took a hard line against illegal immigrants working the agricultural fields. The result?

Rotting crops due to farmers not being able to hire Americans to perform. So what did they do then? They went to the governor, asking for inmates to perform the duties - basically, free labor.

"In spring 2011, the Georgia Legislature approved an anti-immigration bill that made migrant workers so scarce crops rotted in fields due to a lack of harvesters, creating a $500 million revenue vacuum."

http://www.producenews.com/index.php/news-dep...

Secondly, your argument regarding Americans not lacking skill sets required is also false. We currently have roughly 3.5 million skilled labor jobs - machinists, engineering, all vacant due to a severe shortage of skilled labor. I work in this field, so believe me, these are facts I deal with every day with my clients.

"Even with almost 13 million Americans looking for work and 8 million more settling for part-time jobs, almost half the 1,361 U.S. employers surveyed in January by ManpowerGroup say they canít find workers to fill positions. At the same time, American employers are less likely than their counterparts overseas to invest in training, the Milwaukee-based staffing company reported last month.
Companies have reported more than 3 million job openings every month since February 2011, according to the Department of Labor."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-25/comp...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/05/...

Illegals were enticed here as far back as the early 1980's due to corporations desires to get the best bang for their buck - and political will is in fact owned by corporate interests.

I've yet to see an illegal immigrant come here and take a skilled job away - maybe in construction, and those owners should be heavily fined or jailed for doing so. Aside from that, they do all the crop picking, the landscaping for literally 70% of this country, jobs no American wants to do - even in hard times, which is sad.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#467 Nov 24, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
Mexicans and other Latinos enjoy the largest quotas by far for legal immigration into our country. There is no discrimination against them no matter what the liars say.
http://blog.ohmygov.com/blogs/general_news/ar...
Except of course that the majority of legal immigrants are STILL white people primarily from European countries.

Only 15% of legal immigrants come from Mexico.

Less that 50% come from non-white majority countries.

Yes, the govt STILL has a finger on the scale trying to ensure whites remain a majority in the country.

Yes, that's racist.
Dee Dee Dee

Coopersburg, PA

#468 Nov 24, 2013
Actually more legal immigrants come from Mexico (over 146,000 a year) than any other country. Almost twice as many as all of Europe.
There are no statistics on how many "white people immigrate legally.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#469 Nov 24, 2013
TonyT, who do you think you are fooling? Construction, landscaping and any other assortment of blue-collared jobs are skilled jobs that Americans have always done for a fair wage until the arrival of cheap, illegal labor. The only reasons that employers hire them is to increase their profits and they don't give a damn about quality of work. There is a whole tract of homes across the street from me built by illegal labor and they all fell apart and many of the owners just up and left them.
As for crop picking only 3% of illegals are doing that. The other 97% are doing jobs that Americans have always done. Some of the less skilled ones used to be held by our American youth as entry level jobs. Even for crop picking there are unlimited visas for LEGAL foreign workers but some of the growers can increase their profits by using cheap, illegal labor instead. In Georgia where they were busted they used the lame excuse that the crops were rotting on the vines when if they had used those visas instead it wouldn't have happened.
You're full of crap! Those skilled jobs that you say aren't being filled an illegal couldn't fill them anyway as they are the uneducated and unskilled themselves. If we truly had a shortage of skilled American labor then the employers would be begging to increase the visas for them but they are not and it is simply because they want the cheap, illegal labor instead to fatten their wallets.
It is mostly smaller businesses that hire illegals not large corporations so much. Many of them are owned by Hispanics also. At any rate they need to be fined out of existence and their cheap labor deported. It is just plain nonsense that Americans won't do construction, landscaping, etc. for a fair wage. Who do you think did them before the arrival of cheap, illegal labor?
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#470 Nov 24, 2013
Most white immigrants today became U.S. citizens so they aren't "immigrants" anymore. The fact remains that Mexicans and other Latinos enjoy the highest quotas for legal immigration into our country today and have for decades. White immigrants are hardly even on the radar in comparison. Ted Kennedy made sure of that back in 1965.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#471 Nov 24, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
Actually more legal immigrants come from Mexico (over 146,000 a year) than any other country. Almost twice as many as all of Europe.
There are no statistics on how many "white people immigrate legally.
You're right and within the link that I posted you will see how many white Europeans migrate here today compared to Mexicans and other Latinos. They pale in comparison. What happened to diversity in our legal immigration quotas?
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#472 Nov 24, 2013
Wow, expecting immigrants to come here that will be a benefit rather than a burden to our country and expecting them to honor our laws and assimilate into our society is a lot of qualifiers? And is racist? Unbelievable!

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