Is immigration reform dead in the Hou...

Is immigration reform dead in the House?Is immigration reform dead in ...

There are 431 comments on the USA Today story from Nov 14, 2013, titled Is immigration reform dead in the House?Is immigration reform dead in .... In it, USA Today reports that:

House Speaker John Boehner startled immigration advocates this week when he said his chamber would never consider a sweeping immigration bill passed by the Senate and wouldn't commit to voting on Despite a rush to write the obituary for immigration reform, House Speaker John Boehner has not closed the door on the issue entirely.

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Cat74

United States

#301 Nov 19, 2013
Staying in one place for a few months does not form a country. They lived all over the place. They went from place to place. What civilizations? Those places they cut out of the mountains? Go look at them. Some still tell the stories of the people who were there. You are a victim of altered history.
Cat74

United States

#302 Nov 19, 2013
You watch too many cowboy movies.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#305 Nov 19, 2013
Read some history on the Spanish conquests. They conquered all the way to the Phillipines and just about everywhere else. They aren't the innocents here.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#306 Nov 19, 2013
Beginning with the 1492 arrival of Christopher Columbus (an Italian sailing FOR Spain) and continuing for over four centuries, the Spanish Empire would expand across most of present day Central America, the Caribbean Islands, Mexico, and much of the rest of North America including the Southwestern, Southern coastal, and California's Pacific Coast regions of the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_coloniza...

I rest my case. What was that about the non-Hispanic Europeans again?
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#308 Nov 19, 2013
More on the Spanish conquests of the Western World including Mexico. Read it if you dare and pay attention to the map provided. The Spanish were far more guilty of conquests than any other white European country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_coloniza...

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#310 Nov 19, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
So, it is YOU that thinks laws are ok to be broken today while you chastise white Americans for supposedly doing the same thing long ago? Do you realize that makes you a hypocrite???
Since mestizo Mexicans are part white Spaniard themselves then they have no room to talk about what Anglo-Americans did or didn't do long ago. The white Spaniards were just as guilty of anything you accuse anglo-whites of. That makes you a hypocrite twice now!!
How is it bigoted to not desire an unnatural and unlawful change to our demographics, culture and language in that manner? Why do you continually bring up white people as if other non-Hispanic Americans would be ok with that? As I said, seek counseling for your apparent hatred of white Americans and your anti-American stance of defending illegal immigration to seek the genocide of non-Hispanic white Americans.
No, I agree with you that what happened in the past is irrelevant. So I'll oppose anyone who broke the immigration law TODAY, but anyone who broke it yesterday or before that no longer matters- because it's in the past.

Armed revolution is unlawful as well, but you seem to have no problem if they went that route.

It's bigoted because we all know you wouldn't be saying a word if all the illegals were whites coming from Europe. I'm sure you'd see it as a good way to save the white race.

Hispanics aren't killing off the whites; we're becoming a minority as a race in America because we have a lower birthrate than blacks & Hispanics. Even if you managed to deport every illegal immigrant, whites will STILL become a minority- it'll just take a little longer.

Obviously it the thought of being a minority that is the real issue for you and other racist whites. You're terrified the new majority might decide to treat you as bad as they were treated why whites.
spud

Blakeslee, PA

#311 Nov 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I agree with you that what happened in the past is irrelevant. So I'll oppose anyone who broke the immigration law TODAY, but anyone who broke it yesterday or before that no longer matters- because it's in the past.
Armed revolution is unlawful as well, but you seem to have no problem if they went that route.
It's bigoted because we all know you wouldn't be saying a word if all the illegals were whites coming from Europe. I'm sure you'd see it as a good way to save the white race.
Hispanics aren't killing off the whites; we're becoming a minority as a race in America because we have a lower birthrate than blacks & Hispanics. Even if you managed to deport every illegal immigrant, whites will STILL become a minority- it'll just take a little longer.
Obviously it the thought of being a minority that is the real issue for you and other racist whites. You're terrified the new majority might decide to treat you as bad as they were treated why whites.
As much as you'd like to think so, this has nothing to do with race, dog. This is about learning from history. You see what happened to the Indians and the Mexicans because they had bad immigration policies. You see what happened in 86 when all those enforcement promises that were part that amnesty were broken? Smart people learn from past mistakes. I guess that leaves you out.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#312 Nov 19, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>As much as you'd like to think so, this has nothing to do with race, dog. This is about learning from history. You see what happened to the Indians and the Mexicans because they had bad immigration policies. You see what happened in 86 when all those enforcement promises that were part that amnesty were broken? Smart people learn from past mistakes. I guess that leaves you out.
So your plan is to leave the 11+ million illegals as illegals?

Brilliant plan.

How does that solve anything?
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#313 Nov 19, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>As much as you'd like to think so, this has nothing to do with race, dog. This is about learning from history. You see what happened to the Indians and the Mexicans because they had bad immigration policies. You see what happened in 86 when all those enforcement promises that were part that amnesty were broken? Smart people learn from past mistakes. I guess that leaves you out.
exactly, they can all go home.the way it looks thats how it will go.obama is in no position to pass anything else ever again.his healthcare was the last thing he should pass.that will kill its self.americans dont want it.
CRIMMIGRANTS

United States

#314 Nov 19, 2013
NO amnesty LOL LOL LOL!

detect
detain
DEPORT!!
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#316 Nov 19, 2013
CRIMMIGRANTS wrote:
NO amnesty LOL LOL LOL!
detect
detain
DEPORT!!
lol right on .no amnesty.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#317 Nov 19, 2013
Let me set a few things straight to the liars and false accusers in here. I am opposed to illegal immigration no matter what skin color/race/ethnicity/nationali ty they are. I have never indicated otherwise in here. But what would the defenders of illegal aliens have if they didn't hurl out the race card. It is what they do!

I oppose all law breaking past, present and future. But nothing can be done about dead people who may or may not have broken the law long ago. I live in the present and honor our immigration laws in place today. Nothing in the past justifies breaking them today.

No country of citizens of any race in the world would want their demographics, culture and language altered in such an unlawful way. Does that make them racists? What an idiotic insult to make!

What should be done to rid ourselves of illegals is to remove the magnets that keep them here such as jobs via e-verify benefits and birthright citizenship. Many if not most would self-deport. It would also be a deterrant against the flow continuing. That IS the solution.

If one learned all about their Spanish conquistador ancestors and the atrocities that they committed then where do they get off demonizing non-Hispanic whites for their role in history but not their Spanish ancestors? HYPOCRITES!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#319 Nov 19, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
Let me set a few things straight to the liars and false accusers in here. I am opposed to illegal immigration no matter what skin color/race/ethnicity/nationali ty they are. I have never indicated otherwise in here. But what would the defenders of illegal aliens have if they didn't hurl out the race card. It is what they do!
I oppose all law breaking past, present and future. But nothing can be done about dead people who may or may not have broken the law long ago. I live in the present and honor our immigration laws in place today. Nothing in the past justifies breaking them today.
No country of citizens of any race in the world would want their demographics, culture and language altered in such an unlawful way. Does that make them racists? What an idiotic insult to make!
What should be done to rid ourselves of illegals is to remove the magnets that keep them here such as jobs via e-verify benefits and birthright citizenship. Many if not most would self-deport. It would also be a deterrant against the flow continuing. That IS the solution.
If one learned all about their Spanish conquistador ancestors and the atrocities that they committed then where do they get off demonizing non-Hispanic whites for their role in history but not their Spanish ancestors? HYPOCRITES!
How'd that self-deport thing work out for Romney & the GOPasaurs in '12?

Yes, resistance to cultural and language changes is racist, because it's based on your admitted desire for whites to remain the majority.

I agree, the past is the past. So anyone who came in illegally before today is okay, because that's in the past and isn't relevant anymore.
Holla Isabella

Ardsley, NY

#320 Nov 19, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
Let me set a few things straight to the liars and false accusers in here. I am opposed to illegal immigration no matter what skin color/race/ethnicity/nationali ty they are. I have never indicated otherwise in here. But what would the defenders of illegal aliens have if they didn't hurl out the race card. It is what they do! I
I oppose all law breaking past, present and future. But nothing can be done about dead people who may or may not have broken the law long ago. I live in the present and honor our immigration laws in place today. Nothing in the past justifies breaking them today.
No country of citizens of any race in the world would want their demographics, culture and language altered in such an unlawful way. Does that make them racists? What an idiotic insult to make!
What should be done to rid ourselves of illegals is to remove the magnets that keep them here such as jobs via e-verify benefits and birthright citizenship. Many if not most would self-deport. It would also be a deterrant against the flow continuing. That IS the solution.
If one learned all about their Spanish conquistador ancestors and the atrocities that they committed then where do they get off demonizing non-Hispanic whites for their role in history but not their Spanish ancestors? HYPOCRITES!
Why, why, why are you wasting your time trying to explain anything to ignorant, uneducated, ethnocentric wet backs? They have no knowledge of history, spout La Raza BS and hate all Americans (but, of course, are not racists).

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#321 Nov 19, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
Let me set a few things straight to the liars and false accusers in here. I am opposed to illegal immigration no matter what skin color/race/ethnicity/nationali ty they are. I have never indicated otherwise in here. But what would the defenders of illegal aliens have if they didn't hurl out the race card. It is what they do!
I oppose all law breaking past, present and future. But nothing can be done about dead people who may or may not have broken the law long ago. I live in the present and honor our immigration laws in place today. Nothing in the past justifies breaking them today.
No country of citizens of any race in the world would want their demographics, culture and language altered in such an unlawful way. Does that make them racists? What an idiotic insult to make!
What should be done to rid ourselves of illegals is to remove the magnets that keep them here such as jobs via e-verify benefits and birthright citizenship. Many if not most would self-deport. It would also be a deterrant against the flow continuing. That IS the solution.
If one learned all about their Spanish conquistador ancestors and the atrocities that they committed then where do they get off demonizing non-Hispanic whites for their role in history but not their Spanish ancestors? HYPOCRITES!
Oh, and good luck getting the constitution amended to get rid of birthright citizenship. I'd actually support that because then everyone (including white people) would have to earn their citizenship instead of just having it handed to them on a platter because they came out of a vagina in the US.

But it'll never happen, so it's neither here nor there.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#322 Nov 19, 2013
We don't have to get rid of the Constitution to re-interpret the true meaning of the 14th amendment on birthright citizenship. All it would take is for the SC to re-visit it. Most all countries do not allow birthright citizenship to the offspring of illegal aliens. One, or both parents have to be legal resident or citizen of their country. That just make sense.

Again, with the white people demonizing. Do you racists ever stop? I wouldn't advocate for children of white illegals to gain birthright citizenship either so you can stuff your accusations where the sun don't shine.

It's going to happen. It's only a matter of a short time now and you can take that to the bank. No more anchor babies. Buh, bye.
spud

Blakeslee, PA

#324 Nov 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
How'd that self-deport thing work out for Romney & the GOPasaurs in '12?
Yes, resistance to cultural and language changes is racist, because it's based on your admitted desire for whites to remain the majority.
I agree, the past is the past. So anyone who came in illegally before today is okay, because that's in the past and isn't relevant anymore.
If they passed the Everify law and made it mandatory for all employment, housing rentals and government assistance, they would have definitely self deported. The Democratic party along with the neocon leadership of the Republican made sure Everify didn't pass. There's a name for people like that but there are also rules against saying words like that on here. I guess we can just call them idiots and sugarcoat it.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#325 Nov 19, 2013
Holla Isabella wrote:
<quoted text>
Why, why, why are you wasting your time trying to explain anything to ignorant, uneducated, ethnocentric wet backs? They have no knowledge of history, spout La Raza BS and hate all Americans (but, of course, are not racists).
Nope, we only hate the ignorant uneducated ethnocentric white Americans.

The rest of white America is fine.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#326 Nov 19, 2013
Oldglory wrote:
We don't have to get rid of the Constitution to re-interpret the true meaning of the 14th amendment on birthright citizenship. All it would take is for the SC to re-visit it. Most all countries do not allow birthright citizenship to the offspring of illegal aliens. One, or both parents have to be legal resident or citizen of their country. That just make sense.
Again, with the white people demonizing. Do you racists ever stop? I wouldn't advocate for children of white illegals to gain birthright citizenship either so you can stuff your accusations where the sun don't shine.
It's going to happen. It's only a matter of a short time now and you can take that to the bank. No more anchor babies. Buh, bye.
Getting rid of birthright citizenship would apply to everyone born in America- Hispanic, black, white, Asian, native American, etc.

If you think the SCOTUS is going to reinterpret the 14th amendment, you better hurry while you still have 5 conservative justices on the court. Though I seriously doubt Kennedy or even Roberts is going to go along with the other 3 conservative nutjobs on that issue.

But you can keep on wishing....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#327 Nov 19, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>If they passed the Everify law and made it mandatory for all employment, housing rentals and government assistance, they would have definitely self deported. The Democratic party along with the neocon leadership of the Republican made sure Everify didn't pass. There's a name for people like that but there are also rules against saying words like that on here. I guess we can just call them idiots and sugarcoat it.
That's kinda the whole point- it has ZERO chance of passing unless it's part of a comprehensive immigration bill which includes amnesty for the 11+ million illegals already here.

That's why I say it's simply not realistic to think those 11+ million are going to self-deport.

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