The President has failed us

This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election. Full Story
Sir William Ferrell

Los Angeles, CA

#187034 Sep 24, 2013
just a sista wrote:
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OMG, do you know how stupid you sound? First off, Romney's health care law in Massachusetts is the blueprint for Obamacare. Secondly, why would you look to him for jobs when he sent jobs out of the country, by closing plants here? You really didn't listen to facts during the campaign did you?
Do you know how ghetto and food stampish you sound?

Of course you'll never bite the hand that feeds you.

Even animals don't do that. Obama has you dependent and beholding.

Right where he wanted you.

That's where he wants all of us eventually, under his 100% Marxist socialism plan for America.

“RELAX”

Level 8

Since: Dec 12

EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT

#187035 Sep 24, 2013
Sir Ghost Rider wrote:
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"Drinking and posting under the influence causes that. You would be surprised how many props I get from drunks like yourself."
Childest at best.. You and x-man remind me of the puzzy STV who left tuck tail...
Go blow your b.s. elsewhere..
You're nothing but an uneducated azzhole (who knows how to google) trying to be worldly who thinks others will believe the sh*t you are trying to get to stick to the wall....
I'm not the issue here goat rider. The issue we are trying to discuss is "The President has failed us". I'm not the president. Neither are you.

Why do you even pretend to be here to discuss issues? You never do. You clumsily give props accidentally as you rush to reply to a comment made by a poster that you don't like. Your rude replies usually have nothing to do with the issue being discussed either. You disrupt the thread with page after page of off topic insults and when you are busted out for it, you accuse your victims of doing exactly what you have been doing all along.

It must be humiliating to get PwnD by uneducated azzholez on the intertubes.

Like I said earlier, put down the bottle and sober up goat

“I Survived Immigration Reform”

Level 9

Since: Jun 10

Forum

#187037 Sep 24, 2013
Can it be stopped? 8 answers on Obamacare and the shutdown

By Z. Byron Wolf, CNN

Tue September 24, 2013

Washington (CNN)-- Over the next few days, the drama of a potential government shutdown will collide with the promise of a new health insurance system known as Obamacare.

Here are answers to eight of the most pressing questions about both:

1. What happens on October 1 with Obamacare and the government shutdown?

First, the health insurance exchanges established by the Affordable Care Act -- or Obamacare -- will be open for business. Millions of uninsured Americans will be able to enroll in health plans before the law kicks in on January 1, 2014. Second, the U.S. government might "shut down" if lawmakers can't agree to pass a funding bill that has attached to it a provision to defund Obamacare. These two events are linked. The reason both houses of Congress may not be able to agree on a funding bill -- also known as a continuing resolution -- is that some senators and representatives see this as their last chance to stop Obamacare. But that's really where the link ends.

2. Does a government shutdown shut down Obamacare?

Not really. Most of the funding for Obamacare comes from new taxes and fees, from cost cuts to other programs like Medicare and other types of funding that carry on even in the event of a government shutdown. Congress' research arm, the Congressional Research service, prepared a memo for Republican Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, that suggested an effort to use the government shutdown as leverage to force Democrats to delay implementing the law would not really work because the law will continue regardless of a shutdown. Plus, the law would still be in effect, so its many new requirements -- everything from forcing insurance companies to cover anyone who wants insurance to forcing everyday Americans to carry health insurance or pay a fine -- would still be in effect, too.

3. Do I have to sign up for a new health insurance plan on October 1 when open enrollment for Obamacare begins?

Maybe -- Take this quick survey and we'll find out:

A. Do you get health insurance from your employer?
If the answer is yes -- and this is by far the No. 1 way Americans get health insurance -- go on about your business. Obamacare doesn't really affect you.

At least not yet. A lot of people think that because of Obamacare, fewer companies will offer health insurance, particularly to low-paid workers and retirees. There is some evidence of this. These employers would have to pay a per-worker fine to the government, but it might be cheaper for them in the long run to pay this fine to the government rather than offer insurance. Other companies might cut hours for some workers, making them part-timers working fewer than 30 hours a week in order to avoid helping pay their health insurance. But it will take some years to see if it really comes to pass.

However, if you get health insurance at work, you could probably drop that coverage and buy health insurance on the Obamacare exchanges. But you might not want to. You won't qualify for any government help to buy your insurance and your employer wouldn't be contributing any of the money it is now.

B. Do you get health insurance from the government?
If the answer is yes, go on about your business.

Obamacare doesn't really affect you. At least not yet. While Obamacare relies on making Medicare more efficient as a way to pay for some new services for younger people, it is not supposed to change the services offered by Medicare. One big test of this promise is Medicare Advantage. These are privately administered insurance plans that provide Medicare services to seniors. They cost the government more per person to provide Medicare. So, Obamacare seeks to bring their spending back in line with the rest of Medicare....(cont.)

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/24/politics/obamac...

“Tutte le strade portano a Roma”

Level 4

Since: Aug 13

Mt Vesuvius

#187038 Sep 24, 2013
It is the Law MF's!

Hillary Clinton defends Obamacare, slams defunding efforts



Hillary Clinton made a forceful case in support of Obamacare’s implementation and slammed the “noisy minority” of Senate Republicans advocating defunding the program, saying a government shutdown will be blamed on Republicans and “we’ve seen that movie before.”

“I find the debate over the issue to be quite unfortunate,” Clinton said at an afternoon panel at the Clinton Global Initiative in Manhattan, two hours before her husband and President Obama were set to take the stage to discuss the health care initiative. The remarks represented some of Clinton’s most political commentary since she left the State Department early this year, including her passionate defense of the Voting Rights Act at the American Bar Association.

“On the one hand a law was passed, it was upheld by the Supreme Court, it is the law of the land,” she said, contrasting the situation with President George W. Bush’s efforts to expand Medicare Part D, which brought about a different response from congressional Republicans.

She added,“I think there are all sorts of threats going on by particularly some of the Republicans in the House and a few notables in the Senate. I think they ought to go back and read history … it wouldn’t be the worst thing for Democrats if they tried to shut the government down. We’ve seen that movie before. It didn’t work out too well [for Republicans].”

In fact, she argued, Republicans would be making a grave mistake to force a shutdown or, even worse, a default on the nation’s debt in order to try and force Democrats’ hand on the health care law. Clinton, of course, devoted the early part of her husband’s presidency to an ultimately failed effort to enact comprehensive health care reform — and was a vocal advocate for overhaul during her 2008 presidential campaign.

“This president is not going to agree to defund … if they want to shut the government down that’s on their head and their responsibility,” Clinton said.

“If they go even further” by going to the mat on the debt ceiling, she added,“that is not just partisan politics that is going at the heart of our credibility around the world …. so I hope that our friends at the other side of the aisle, and it’s a minority but it’s a noisy minority …[realize that] it’s not right to do and this is bad politics for them to do.”

She added,“If they go forward we will figure out how to piece it back together but we will have suffered some unnecessary … wounds.”

“Nobody is saying [Obamacare is] a perfect bill,” Clinton added.“But it was a very important step forwaard on behalf of our country” to lessen health care costs and get people ensured.

People who disagree with portions of the bill, she added, have said they like other elements.

“People agree with the specifics but as I found back in the 90s with our effort they have been in effect convinced that the overall program is not to their liking,” she said.“So we’re in this kind of bipolar political world.

“Socks, socks, everywhere socks”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#187039 Sep 24, 2013
Sir William Ferrell wrote:
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Do you know how ghetto and food stampish you sound?
Of course you'll never bite the hand that feeds you.
Even animals don't do that. Obama has you dependent and beholding.
Right where he wanted you.
That's where he wants all of us eventually, under his 100% Marxist socialism plan for America.
Wow, project much? Sorry to disappoint you but I don't live nor have I ever lived in a ghetto and I've never received food stamps. I bet you can't say the same....at least with a straight face. The hand that feeds me is my own, so no, I won't be biting it since I'm not some psycho animal, like your ilk. You are such a silly ass it's almost ridiculous to respond to your silliness, but I will. Big business has made record profits in the last few years, while Obama has been in office so IF he's a Marxist socialist as you and your pathetic ilk claim, he must be the worst Marxist socialist EVER. I think you are competing with your buds for the most stupid posts on the internet. No fear, I bet you could all share the prize.

“I Survived Immigration Reform”

Level 9

Since: Jun 10

Forum

#187040 Sep 24, 2013
EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
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I ask you a honest question now that you knew the facts.. You still refuse to answer in a honest way..
Eagle
I support the Affordable Care Act. What more is there to say?

You want to argue about it simply because you don't approve of it? What's the point? You're not going to convince me or persuade me to change my mind, and I have no interest in changing yours.

Nice to see you've joined forces with your arch nemesis the Goat Rider just so you can feel all badazz again. LOL!

You want to argue about ACA? Do it with someone else. I've posted several articles on the issue which delineate the FACTS. I support them. And it's the law and it will not be defunded by the Republicans no matter how long Cruz bellows and barks.
Sir William Ferrell

Los Angeles, CA

#187041 Sep 24, 2013
---Wild Irish Rose--- wrote:
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LMAO! NTR is by no means stupid, and it's her superior intelligence in fact that intimidates you and causes you to dislike her and badmouth her the way you do.
For anyone to read any of NTR's posts and conclude that she is "stupid" is proof of their own ignorance.
What a weak and childish reply, you silly thing.
Posting those cut paste DNC website feel good stories makes her "smart"?....lolololo lolololololololol

She has her old posts from way before she got "sick" in the mind with her mental troubles, she plasters those up on occasion, so she doesn't look so "obvious" as I recognize some of her blatherings these days from 6-7 years ago....lololololol....true.

No wonder you two hang together like the support hose grannies you are.

You're both a couple of faded, 1960's bra burning primadonnas who lost there way 50 years ago, when they were 15, and you've both never found it again is more like it.

Try to envision the 21st century already you two?
This aint 1968 anymore. You two are way out of your element.

“ON THE PROWL”

Level 9

Since: May 08

Big Birds Nest..

#187042 Sep 24, 2013
Sir Ghost Rider wrote:
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LOL...
I suppose CNN could be seen as "current n------ network.....
LMAO.. So true so true..:-)

Eagle
Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#187043 Sep 24, 2013
More Proof: Dumbing Down America

Parent arrested for questioning "Common Core"

A Baltimore-area police chief is reviewing the arrest of a man who rose at a town hall-style meeting to challenge the national Common Core standards and wound up in an angry confrontation with an off-duty police officer.

Robert Small, 46, showed up at the public forum Thursday night in Towson, but when he began asking questions about Common Core, the police officer, who was providing security at the meeting, shut him down.

“My question is how does lowering educational standards prepare kids for ... college, because that’s what it’s all about?” Small asked in a scene caught on videotape.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/23/pare...
Sir William Ferrell

Los Angeles, CA

#187044 Sep 24, 2013
just a sista wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, project much? Sorry to disappoint you but I don't live nor have I ever lived in a ghetto and I've never received food stamps. I bet you can't say the same....at least with a straight face. The hand that feeds me is my own, so no, I won't be biting it since I'm not some psycho animal, like your ilk. You are such a silly ass it's almost ridiculous to respond to your silliness, but I will. Big business has made record profits in the last few years, while Obama has been in office so IF he's a Marxist socialist as you and your pathetic ilk claim, he must be the worst Marxist socialist EVER. I think you are competing with your buds for the most stupid posts on the internet. No fear, I bet you could all share the prize.
Bullchit.

“Tutte le strade portano a Roma”

Level 4

Since: Aug 13

Mt Vesuvius

#187045 Sep 24, 2013

“ON THE PROWL”

Level 9

Since: May 08

Big Birds Nest..

#187046 Sep 24, 2013
Sir Ghost Rider wrote:
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I don't think being a neo-nazi supremacist qualifies one for medicaid.. But I guess while obama is still in office, anything is possible.. God only knows, he has ignored the black community, why should he care about any neo-nazis supremacists unless of course, they are stopping a black person from doing a crime against society or a community... lol
Oh wait a second.. If thy shoot a black thug it will fall into a hate crime since it could have been obama's son.. Rest assured he would get holder on the job.. LOL..

Eagle

“Tutte le strade portano a Roma”

Level 4

Since: Aug 13

Mt Vesuvius

#187047 Sep 24, 2013
Sir William Ferrell wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullchit.
She rendered you speechless, Id!ot.
LOL!
Quirky

Denver, CO

#187048 Sep 24, 2013
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>You still don't know my party and your claimed education, no matter how superior than what mine might be, you still can't determine my party
That fat little Puerto Rican Pooto don`t know Sh!t.
Level 1

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#187049 Sep 24, 2013
just a sista wrote:
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...while Obama has been in office so IF he's a Marxist socialist as you and your pathetic ilk claim, he must be the worst Marxist socialist EVER.
A capitalist would NEVER state:“I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money.” That is the ultimate Marxian slip.

A capitalist would NEVER support a federal government takeover of the health care industry. Single-payer is what Obama and his far left minions want.

It's all about power, control, and money. Hardly the "worst", he's doing as much damage as he can.

“I Survived Immigration Reform”

Level 9

Since: Jun 10

Forum

#187050 Sep 24, 2013
VorenusI wrote:
It is the Law MF's!
Hillary Clinton defends Obamacare, slams defunding efforts
Hillary Clinton made a forceful case in support of Obamacare’s implementation and slammed the “noisy minority” of Senate Republicans advocating defunding the program, saying a government shutdown will be blamed on Republicans and “we’ve seen that movie before.”
“I find the debate over the issue to be quite unfortunate,” Clinton said at an afternoon panel at the Clinton Global Initiative in Manhattan, two hours before her husband and President Obama were set to take the stage to discuss the health care initiative. The remarks represented some of Clinton’s most political commentary since she left the State Department early this year, including her passionate defense of the Voting Rights Act at the American Bar Association.
“On the one hand a law was passed, it was upheld by the Supreme Court, it is the law of the land,” she said, contrasting the situation with President George W. Bush’s efforts to expand Medicare Part D, which brought about a different response from congressional Republicans.
She added,“I think there are all sorts of threats going on by particularly some of the Republicans in the House and a few notables in the Senate. I think they ought to go back and read history … it wouldn’t be the worst thing for Democrats if they tried to shut the government down. We’ve seen that movie before. It didn’t work out too well [for Republicans].”
In fact, she argued, Republicans would be making a grave mistake to force a shutdown or, even worse, a default on the nation’s debt in order to try and force Democrats’ hand on the health care law. Clinton, of course, devoted the early part of her husband’s presidency to an ultimately failed effort to enact comprehensive health care reform — and was a vocal advocate for overhaul during her 2008 presidential campaign.
“This president is not going to agree to defund … if they want to shut the government down that’s on their head and their responsibility,” Clinton said.
“If they go even further” by going to the mat on the debt ceiling, she added,“that is not just partisan politics that is going at the heart of our credibility around the world …. so I hope that our friends at the other side of the aisle, and it’s a minority but it’s a noisy minority …[realize that] it’s not right to do and this is bad politics for them to do.”
She added,“If they go forward we will figure out how to piece it back together but we will have suffered some unnecessary … wounds.”
“Nobody is saying [Obamacare is] a perfect bill,” Clinton added.“But it was a very important step forwaard on behalf of our country” to lessen health care costs and get people ensured.
People who disagree with portions of the bill, she added, have said they like other elements.
“People agree with the specifics but as I found back in the 90s with our effort they have been in effect convinced that the overall program is not to their liking,” she said.“So we’re in this kind of bipolar political world.
Exactly, V and she stated the argument perfectly. I think her role as Secretary of State made her stronger and more confident. I hope she runs in 2016.

“Socks, socks, everywhere socks”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#187051 Sep 24, 2013
EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
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Yea yea yea.. Just tell us all why you support obamacare then?? Usually someone supports a law or don't regarding how it will effect their personal lives.. Do you only support it because obama?? You don't think about the rest of America and her citizens??
Eagle
I will state why I support Obamacare, and have so from the very beginning. Because it will help curb the quickly rising costs of health care. It will force those who are using hospitals and Urgent treatment Centers as doctor's offices, then stiffing them, leaving us to foot their bill, to pay their own way. Another reason I support Obamacare is that it stops insurance companies from dropping people for certain conditions and discriminating against people for pre existing conditions. With more people in the pool, insurance companies will have to be more competitive and people will get better rates (individually) than they were before. I have supported some sort of health care reform for a long long time. It will not benefit me personally, as far as I know, other than maybe eventually bringing down the cost of insurance for us all, or at least reduce the rate at which it rises. I find it despicable that you would recommend to others something you didn't do for yourself, not have health insurance. And you still have it through medicare. I not only think it's despicable, I find it shameful. I wonder if you are a paid poster, someone who receives a stipend to post negative and misleading information on political subjects.

“I Survived Immigration Reform”

Level 9

Since: Jun 10

Forum

#187052 Sep 24, 2013
Sir William Ferrell wrote:
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Posting those cut paste DNC website feel good stories makes her "smart"?....lolololo lolololololololol
She has her old posts from way before she got "sick" in the mind with her mental troubles, she plasters those up on occasion, so she doesn't look so "obvious" as I recognize some of her blatherings these days from 6-7 years ago....lololololol....true.
No wonder you two hang together like the support hose grannies you are.
You're both a couple of faded, 1960's bra burning primadonnas who lost there way 50 years ago, when they were 15, and you've both never found it again is more like it.
Try to envision the 21st century already you two?
This aint 1968 anymore. You two are way out of your element.
Bullchit.

“ON THE PROWL”

Level 9

Since: May 08

Big Birds Nest..

#187054 Sep 24, 2013
Sir Ghost Rider wrote:
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No one is trying to control you, you paranoid nutcase...
Eagle asked you a non-threatening question.. Face it, Rose, you don't want to discuss the issues as you do not want to open yourself up to someone having a differing viewpoint than you and challenging you on your opinion...
YOUR LOSS!
Now, back to your disruptive behavior.... <shaking head>
She never wants to discuss the topic at hand.. Thats okay..

Eagle

“Socks, socks, everywhere socks”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#187056 Sep 24, 2013
Ray Donovan wrote:
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A capitalist would NEVER state:“I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money.” That is the ultimate Marxian slip.
A capitalist would NEVER support a federal government takeover of the health care industry. Single-payer is what Obama and his far left minions want.
It's all about power, control, and money. Hardly the "worst", he's doing as much damage as he can.
You'd prefer to give your allegiance to corporations who have no national loyalty, and their only concern is the bottom line, not this country, not it's people, not even their own workers. Capitalism is a necessary evil, but it's hardly something to defend over fellow Americans and this country. If you do, you are as anti-American as what you claim socialists to be. At least those who support social programs do so because they have their fellow Americans in mind, not some foreign company or some "American" company in a foreign nation.

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