The President has failed us

The President has failed us

There are 403300 comments on the Times News story from Jun 9, 2012, titled The President has failed us. In it, Times News reports that:

This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election.

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Huntscoyotes

Lexington, KY

#112575 Mar 6, 2013
chris wrote:
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nothing wrong with stereotyping, just when police and government recognize they are wrong, cease looking to justify charging something with to make thir stop worthwhile, after all if a blue car was seen leaving the bank robbed, why waste time looking for white cars, time to get real in this land and get crime under control, crime is not a video game, victims are injured on way or another
You're confusing "stereotyping" with "scope of the search" and "prima facie evidence" http://www.answers.com/topic/prima-facie-evid...
among other terms. Try google and get back to us.
Lock N Load

Riverside, CA

#112577 Mar 6, 2013
Florida bill would require anger management courses for bullet buyers

By Joshua Rhett Miller

Published March 06, 2013

FoxNews.com

A Florida legislator wants anyone trying to buy ammunition to complete an anger management program first, in what critics say is the latest example of local lawmakers reaching for constitutionally-dubious solutions to the problem of gun violence.

The bill filed Saturday by state Sen. Audrey Gibson, D-Jacksonville, would require a three-day waiting period for the sale of any firearm and the sale of ammunition to anyone who has not completed anger management courses. The proposal would require ammo buyers to take the anger management courses every 10 years.

“This is not about guns," Gibson said. "This is about ammunition and not only for the safety of the general community, but also for the safety of law enforcement.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/06/fl...

“Try Reuters.”

Level 8

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#112580 Mar 6, 2013
Teumessian Fox wrote:
<quoted text>
Her it is but you claim to have already read it,
State's main witness in George Zimmerman murder case lied
"Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, the state's most important witness in the George Zimmerman murder case, was caught in a lie, it was revealed Tuesday.
It was not the first piece of misinformation tied to her, but it was the most damaging to date and left prosecutors in a very awkward position.
They had to publicly acknowledge that their star witness had lied under oath and had to answer questions about what they intend to do about it.
Reporters asked: Will you charge the 19-year-old Miami woman with perjury?
The state's lead prosecutor, Bernie de la Rionda, gave an ambiguous answer: "You can all read the law and make your own decision."
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/bre...
Now go ahead and split hairs and twist it and tell us it doesn't say what it says but don't expect us to read that babble again.
She lied about her excuse for not being at his funeral. Embarrassment? Fear of media? Insecurity? Anxiety?

She has been consistent (by and large) on what took place in their telephone conversation leading up to the phone being disconnected.

You want her arrested because she wasn't in the hospital on the day of his funeral but didn't attend the funeral? <eyes roll>
ima

El Paso, TX

#112582 Mar 6, 2013
La Santa Muerte wrote:
<quoted text>
The Washington Examiner has a story today that points out how our so-called president is intentionally causing as much pain as possible on the American people just for political expediency.
Unbelievable, but too much evidence points directly at that fact.
"There is no common ground. There's no desire for bipartisanship. He doesn't want to come to bipartisan agreements. In fact, Boehner once gave Obama everything he asked for in a fiscal cliff deal, and Obama changed the terms of the deal. He demanded an additional trillion dollars in tax increases from Boehner, and that's when Boehner walked away. He didn't want a deal. He doesn't want any agreement. He doesn't want his name attached to any policy going forward because the intention here is for there to be more pain."
I agree 100%!! This evil person in our WH is a dictator NO MATTER HOW MUCH HE DENIES IT.

“Try Reuters.”

Level 8

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#112584 Mar 6, 2013
---Wild Irish Rose--- wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know, NTR.
But it seems to me if Zimmerman had the ability to pull out his gun, shoot Martin at point blank range, and then shove his body off of him, he would have had the same energy to fight back without having shot him.
It's a chilling description for sure, and it's really only Zimmerman's word against the dead boy what really took place during those minutes before and after the shooting.
But you would think that a man who feared for his life would have been more visibly upset after the shooting instead of straddling the body like a cop would do who had just shot an assailant. There are lots of holes in his story.
Huntscoyotes surely knows what touched me about this.

When somebody has a loaded gun pointed straight at you and a murderous or very angry look in his eyes, you may not be able to articulate clearly. There is the "animal" instinct of "I'm going to die" that releases in the form of a moan or a whine - a form of human pleading. I've said this before. I heard that sound from my sister just before she fell to the ground in abject terror of imminent death while a loaded twelve gauge was leveled on her, myself and my crazy little belligerent mother. The "other" instinct welled up in me. Tell the shooter how "right" he is, and tell him NOW that you are on his side. That's what I did. That time, it worked.
chris

Lafayette, LA

#112585 Mar 6, 2013
Lock N Load wrote:
Florida bill would require anger management courses for bullet buyers
By Joshua Rhett Miller
Published March 06, 2013
FoxNews.com
A Florida legislator wants anyone trying to buy ammunition to complete an anger management program first, in what critics say is the latest example of local lawmakers reaching for constitutionally-dubious solutions to the problem of gun violence.
The bill filed Saturday by state Sen. Audrey Gibson, D-Jacksonville, would require a three-day waiting period for the sale of any firearm and the sale of ammunition to anyone who has not completed anger management courses. The proposal would require ammo buyers to take the anger management courses every 10 years.
“This is not about guns," Gibson said. "This is about ammunition and not only for the safety of the general community, but also for the safety of law enforcement.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/06/fl...
safety of law enforcement, well how about hardlining on crime, eliminate juvinell law, put away violent criminals at a young age and all will be safe not just law enforcemnet, the standard that the public have no rights or standing under this system while government employees are worth early retirement valued life etc is ridiculous and the people in this land need to complain to the united nations on the same note, fix you policing and judicial system guns are not the problem criminals are

Level 6

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#112587 Mar 6, 2013
Teumessian Fox wrote:
<quoted text>
Her it is but you claim to have already read it,
State's main witness in George Zimmerman murder case lied
"Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, the state's most important witness in the George Zimmerman murder case, was caught in a lie, it was revealed Tuesday.
It was not the first piece of misinformation tied to her, but it was the most damaging to date and left prosecutors in a very awkward position.
They had to publicly acknowledge that their star witness had lied under oath and had to answer questions about what they intend to do about it.
Reporters asked: Will you charge the 19-year-old Miami woman with perjury?
The state's lead prosecutor, Bernie de la Rionda, gave an ambiguous answer: "You can all read the law and make your own decision."
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/bre...
Now go ahead and split hairs and twist it and tell us it doesn't say what it says but don't expect us to read that babble again.
"Us"? You keep speaking in the plural sense. How many people you got in there with you Cybil?

Anyway, I read it, but I had to go find what I was looking for myself and here's what I found.

The lie she is accused of was in a sworn statement, not in a court of law. That was what had me confused between what I had read previously and what was being said here.

I'm still not sure what the range of possible penalties are for that, but I do know that if you lie in court to a judges face (like both Zimmerman and his wife did) jail time is a safe bet.

Different situations, different standards.

I also found that Zimmerman's attorney says the state did what they were supposed to when they found out what she said in the statement was not true.

He also said that he wasn't sure if this would harm her credibility as a witness...

"The state did what it was supposed to do and let us know there was a problem with their witness. We now know it and have an opportunity to talk to her," he said. "Credibility is always an issue with any witness. And if it rises to the level where it is evidentiary, then we'll go from there. And if it doesn't rise to that level, we deal with it."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/06/teenage-...

Call it splitting hairs if you want, but so far I've seen nothing that says she should go to jail for the question about that specific part of her statement and even Zimmerman's lawyer is not sure it rises to the level where it impacts her credibility as a witness.

“ON THE PROWL”

Level 9

Since: May 08

Rest well Brother

#112588 Mar 6, 2013
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>She lied about her excuse for not being at his funeral. Embarrassment? Fear of media? Insecurity? Anxiety?
She has been consistent (by and large) on what took place in their telephone conversation leading up to the phone being disconnected.
You want her arrested because she wasn't in the hospital on the day of his funeral but didn't attend the funeral? <eyes roll>
So its okay for her to make a mistake (LMFAO of being in a hospital) as opposed to Z wife not knowing the difference in a legal fund.. That b!tch belongs in the legal system like Z's wife does.. Thats the end of story..

Eagle
American Lady

Danville, KY

#112589 Mar 6, 2013
Teumessian Fox wrote:
<quoted text> "seconds" 86,400 "seconds" in a day.
;0)

YepperZ...
Try slapping someone ...
SEE how long it takes :)

Put the "hurt" on someone ...before two seconds are EVEN counted.

“ON THE PROWL”

Level 9

Since: May 08

Rest well Brother

#112591 Mar 6, 2013
---Wild Irish Rose--- wrote:
<quoted text>
The jury isn't even going to care once the trial is underway. It's irrelevant, and you're making it much more important than it really is.
Same with the lies the girlfriend told. They were irrelevant to the crime itself. There is so much more that really is relevant and important though, and it sure as hell isn't the FBI files or the girlfriend lying about her age or that she was in the hospital.
The state lays out its case and the defense lays out their.. What is going to be the last they hear rosie?? YUP the girlfriend lied under oath and the FBI refuses to release their file.. Thats that and a not guilty verdict.. ;-)

Eagle
Javert

Canyon Country, CA

#112593 Mar 6, 2013
Quirky wrote:
<quoted text>
Rose is a Lying , Liberal , Socialist , Ignorant , Instigator.
The complete truth.
There are a few others this discription fits here too. Yep!
You're the Topix Village Idiot.

Level 6

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#112594 Mar 6, 2013
Teumessian Fox wrote:
<quoted text>
Good catch but lying on a sworn statement regarding this case is still very serious and she needs the appropriate charges. No free passes just because the prosecution and you want her to appear snowy white.
I'm just interested in the truth.

I know that's hard for you to believe, but thanks for admitting it matters.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#112595 Mar 6, 2013
Javert wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the Topix Village Idiot.
Must have STUNG "you" when he said it!
You flinched!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#112596 Mar 6, 2013
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Huntscoyotes surely knows what touched me about this.
When somebody has a loaded gun pointed straight at you and a murderous or very angry look in his eyes, you may not be able to articulate clearly. There is the "animal" instinct of "I'm going to die" that releases in the form of a moan or a whine - a form of human pleading. I've said this before. I heard that sound from my sister just before she fell to the ground in abject terror of imminent death while a loaded twelve gauge was leveled on her, myself and my crazy little belligerent mother. The "other" instinct welled up in me. Tell the shooter how "right" he is, and tell him NOW that you are on his side. That's what I did. That time, it worked.
I've looked DEATH in the FACE three times and STILL here to talk about this!

Must be doing something RIGHT .... huh?
By the Grace of God, go I!

Level 6

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#112597 Mar 6, 2013
EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
<quoted text>
So its okay for her to make a mistake (LMFAO of being in a hospital) as opposed to Z wife not knowing the difference in a legal fund.. That b!tch belongs in the legal system like Z's wife does.. Thats the end of story..
Eagle
It's only the end of the story if you ignore the facts Eagle.

Level 9

Since: Jun 10

Redwood City, CA

#112598 Mar 6, 2013
Teumessian Fox wrote:
<quoted text> No, I want her charged with perjury because she apparently lied under oath at lest twice so far with her dealing on this case.
It is imperative to have a fair trail that she that the oath seriously and tell the truth. A man is being tried for murder here and no one wants to take a chance on getting a conviction that is based on lies. Well no one that is fair.
Irrelevant and immaterial. Dismissed.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

Trump 2016 and beyond

#112599 Mar 6, 2013
Teumessian Fox wrote:
<quoted text> No, I want her charged with perjury because she apparently lied under oath at lest twice so far with her dealing on this case.
It is imperative to have a fair trail that she that the oath seriously and tell the truth. A man is being tried for murder here and no one wants to take a chance on getting a conviction that is based on lies. Well no one that is fair.
It's the right thing to do. She lied under oath.

Level 9

Since: Jun 10

Redwood City, CA

#112600 Mar 6, 2013
EAGLE EYE1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The state lays out its case and the defense lays out their.. What is going to be the last they hear rosie?? YUP the girlfriend lied under oath and the FBI refuses to release their file.. Thats that and a not guilty verdict.. ;-)
Eagle
WHAT??

Those are not the last things the jury will hear. They will hear the closing arguments from both sides. And I highly doubt the defense's closing argument will include anything to do with the FBI OR the girlfriend.

You have no idea what the verdict will be.

“Try Reuters.”

Level 8

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#112601 Mar 6, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
I've looked DEATH in the FACE three times and STILL here to talk about this!
Must be doing something RIGHT .... huh?
By the Grace of God, go I!
Dead Trayvon Martin - There, but for the grace of God, go you too. It could have been any of our children or grandchildren just running to the store and back. Sigh.

Too much violence, too many half-cocked people with guns in their hands. I'm not worried about the hunters and their children. I know what is taught - absolute respect and responsibility. I'm worried about the wannabe cowboys and drunks and drug users playing with guns like life is a video game and that death isn't permanent. I'm worried about former soldiers suffering from PTSD who aren't getting the kinds of COUNSELING and therapy they need. I'm worried about extremists who see a terrorist behind every tree and anybody of a different hue or dress as a potential threat and a target. I'm worried about the psychopaths who want to make a "name" for themselves blowing up government buildings and firing on innocent school children. I'm worried about racists and haters.

I'm not real worried about what my President's intentions are. I hope he can carry out his objectives in the next four years, because I also worry about greedy SOBs who don't care who shoots who as long as they get theirs' and all that you worked to save as well. Never too much.

Level 8

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#112602 Mar 6, 2013
---Wild Irish Rose--- wrote:
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WHAT??
Those are not the last things the jury will hear. They will hear the closing arguments from both sides. And I highly doubt the defense's closing argument will include anything to do with the FBI OR the girlfriend.
You have no idea what the verdict will be.
These righties love to pretend they can predict the future.

They don't know shite. Just ask (((president))Romney. lol

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