The President has failed us

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positronium wrote:

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http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/immigration/T...
Yes, I have.
You don't see what I look like nor see how I swim.
You don't hear what I sound like.
How do you assume what it probably is based on the content of its "quack" alone?
To qualify you to be without mistake.
Tell me RICO.

You're so easy to fck with!!!!!

Look... we might not agree on much but I know we share a similar position on gun control... it means using both hands.

And what makes you think I'm Rico??? Is my screen name an obvious give away or did you use the famous ISP detection software.... or maybe your "firm" did the footwork????

ROLF!!!

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La Santa Muerte wrote:

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Post all the "official" government stats you want. I look at reality, not their OR your "foolishness."

I would not expect an Obama hater like you to accept reality or facts provided by the Office of Management and Budget or the latest CBO report for 2012-2022.

It's pretty obvious that when the right wing nut demagogues handed out the kool-aid, you brought a tanker truck and have been bonging the Kool-aid ever since.

Oficial numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historic...

The Budget and Economic Outlook: Fiscal Years 2012 to 2022
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/42905

[La Santa Muerte]

NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>Maybe they figure you lunatics are going to overthrow the government with your assault rifles and machine guns - so why worry about tomorrow? That seems to be the thinking of the corporatists. They'll get theirs now and to h*ll with their country or the people in it. It's all expendable. Right?
Let's all focus on guns and fear and strangers and illegals and our differences and our suspicions - anything but inequality and disparate treatment or class warfare. If centrists or democrats or moderates attempt to bring equity to the formula or close the gap, let's accuse them of being communists or socialists. Let's accuse the victims of corporatists of being lazy good for nothings and pretend that all the lazy good for nothings are minorities and illegal immigrants who are screwing up "our" great nation. Who is forcing employers to hire illegals or eliminate benefits and pay CEOs 467X their average workers? Liberals? How does that work?
You, for one, continue promoting the insane idea that all this spending you talk about is the province of dems when facts tell a very different story. The vast majority of that missing money was spent by Republicans and lost to unfunded wars and lack of Congressional oversight under the tenure of a Republican. By and large, only stimulus spending to boost the economy and health care legislation can be attributed to Obama.
Neither party in Congress will accept any formula that seems to impact their own bottom lines. It's Government of the wealthy, by the wealthy and primarily for the wealthy. It's testament to the dumbing down of America that this reality is completely ignored in favor of admiration for the real crooks and criminals in this picture - corrupt predator globalists with laws on their side as they continue picking the pockets of America's labor force assisted by THEIR congressional representatives - bought out lock, stock and barrel.
That brings us back to talk of guns, insurrection and government overthrow.
...rolling eyes.....

The problem is YOU "lunatics" who make assumptions about people who don't agree with you on every topic.

Your post is bursting with so many ridiculous misconceptions about me and where I stand on the issues and problems facing "our" country I won't even waste my time arguing with you.

Why not? Your mind is made up. You've judged me without prejudice. Your ignorance and mindset is disappointing.

[La Santa Muerte]

gotoguy FL wrote:

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Oh, bullsh*t. You're just covering for the drunken sailor we have as our Child-President. What matters is that he's SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE! The debt has gone up under Obama more than under any President ever, no matter how you measure it. If you spend a lot more than you take in, you get enormous debt: pretty simple really.
The Senate, totally controlled by Democrats, has not passed a budget since Obama took office. NOT ONCE! It doesn't take four years to find your ass with both hands, yet the Senate and Obama can't seem to do just that.
$17 trillion in debt and no end in sight. That's due to Obama, the child who must finally admit that his dog did NOT eat his homework.
Nice job presenting only the numbers that you want us to notice while ignoring all the rest, including the most important ones. You have a job waiting for you in government as a BS artist. You can even start as a GS-12, as you have a gift for obfuscation. You are a talented ObamaZombie, a step above the usual transparent liars we see in their ranks.(Or did you copy & paste your DNC talking points from somebody else?)

Forget it. Anyone still blaming Bush is a lost (and indoctrinated) cause.

Or maybe it's "Bush's fault" Obama's Inauguration speech failed to mention America’s fiscal problems and focused instead on making the nation’s top priority "social justice."

Want to know how the left sees everyone that disagrees with them? Read "NTRPRNR1" critique of me, a person she's never met or discussed current affairs with. See what I mean?

[La Santa Muerte]

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The Budget and Economic Outlook: Fiscal Years 2012 to 2022
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/42905

You want me to read the CBO's prediction (guess) for the next decade and do what, breathe easy? Say "Hallelujah Obama!"?

LMAO...and you call me a "kool aid" drinker?

Fool.

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gotoguy FL wrote:

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Oh, bullsh*t. You're just covering for the drunken sailor we have as our Child-President. What matters is that he's SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE! The debt has gone up under Obama more than under any President ever, no matter how you measure it. If you spend a lot more than you take in, you get enormous debt: pretty simple really.
The Senate, totally controlled by Democrats, has not passed a budget since Obama took office. NOT ONCE! It doesn't take four years to find your ass with both hands, yet the Senate and Obama can't seem to do just that.
$17 trillion in debt and no end in sight. That's due to Obama, the child who must finally admit that his dog did NOT eat his homework.
Nice job presenting only the numbers that you want us to notice while ignoring all the rest, including the most important ones. You have a job waiting for you in government as a BS artist. You can even start as a GS-12, as you have a gift for obfuscation. You are a talented ObamaZombie, a step above the usual transparent liars we see in their ranks.(Or did you copy & paste your DNC talking points from somebody else?)

It's reached the point that our Fedral Gov't cannot properly function without borrowing. Look... if cutting the deficit was so important to Congress then why is it that Republicans don't cut military spending, oil/farm subsidies.... corporate welfare or any of their "pork? All you see is constant attacks on social spending of poor people.

I guess some people want to live in a society were the poor die on the streets... but hey, those are some nice F-22 Raptor fighter jets collecting dust over in that Skunkworks hangar.

What you guys keep doing is capitalizing on Obama's first term where he had to make some tough financial & expensive choices in saving the US economy from what almost every economist calls the worst recession since the great depression.

Look at unemployment, it doesn't matter if you use the U-3 or U-6 charts, unemployment has gone down, down, down. The stock market is up, government spending is down.... come on, either you're shunning reality or you're pulling a Mitch McConnel ploy of....

"We can’t let you (Obama/Biden) succeed in anything. That’s our ticket to coming back".
-- Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Republican)

[NTRPRNR1]

La Santa Muerte wrote:

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The problem is YOU "lunatics" who make assumptions about people who don't agree with you on every topic.
Your post is bursting with so many ridiculous misconceptions about me and where I stand on the issues and problems facing "our" country I won't even waste my time arguing with you.
Why not? Your mind is made up. You've judged me without prejudice. Your ignorance and mindset is disappointing.

That's correct. I did judge you without prejudice simply based on reading your posts over time. You do little more than diss the Administration and your President - but say nothing about inequality in America. You seem to assume all problems will vanish if we just gut the government and leave the vulnerable to sink or swim on their own regardless of a dearth of jobs or opportunity, much less acknowledge the fact that children can't work (legally anyway) in America. What do you want to do about them? Nothing?

[NTRPRNR1]

gotoguy FL wrote:

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Jeez...take a breath, would you? You are another liberal who doesn't understand that human reality is experienced in a linear fashion. We go from the past, to the present and proceed on into the future. Yes, it's true that our spending problems are not ENTIRELY the fault of Obama and the Democrats. However, they have two distinct advantages: They are in charge now AND they can see what mistakes were made in the past!
Let me repeat that, because you are kind of dim-witted: The Democrats & Obama are in charge NOW! Plus, they can see what problems were caused in the PAST by our foolish spending.
That was then, this is now... get it?
If you come upon a group of drunken sailors lying passed out in an alley with no money left in their pockets, what do you do? Buy several huge barrels of booze, get rip-roaring drunk and then see if you can SURPASS those poor, dumb, drunken fools by wasting even MORE money than they did?
No, you do not. Unless you are an immature child, like Obama.
Maybe I should put it to you like one would to a child: If the Republicans jumped off the roof, will you jump off the roof too?
Jeez... this is not complicated: The larder is empty, our bank account is running dry, we are going broke, there's no more money, you can't spend like a drunken sailor forever. Etc, etc, etc.
How many ways do we have to put this before somebody in charge (that's the President, in case you didn't know) behaves like an adult and stops this foolishness?
If Obama can't stop spending like a drunken sailor, then what is he but just another drunken sailor? Does it really matter that he got off a ship after a bunch of other drunken sailors?
GROW UP!
rolling eyes, puking and laughing at how childish you are....

You describe your President as an "immature child"? Don't expect to be taken seriously. I just can't do it. Find somebody who thinks you have functioning neurons with whom you can interact.

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La Santa Muerte wrote:

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Forget it. Anyone still blaming Bush is a lost (and indoctrinated) cause.
Or maybe it's "Bush's fault" Obama's Inauguration speech failed to mention America’s fiscal problems and focused instead on making the nation’s top priority "social justice."
Want to know how the left sees everyone that disagrees with them? Read "NTRPRNR1" critique of me, a person she's never met or discussed current affairs with. See what I mean?

Well.... we cannot blame Bush anymore as under Obama.... he has saved the US Economy and capitalism as we know it. You know... the sh(t Bush screwed up!!!

[NTRPRNR1]

gotoguy FL wrote:

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I'm sorry, didn't I also say that YOU are an immature child?
You can't add 2 + 2 and come up with 4!
ObamaZombies are immature children following an infant down the road to La La Land and financial ruin. Sorry if you don't like reality, but it'd be unkind of me to go along with your delusional fantasies. You need a dose of what's true, not more BS. BS you can get off the DNC or White House websites.
That you can't handle truth is not suprising, just kind of sad and pathetic. But I can't lie to you: you and Obama are indeed immature and childish.

Okay. Got that wrong. Shouldn't skim your posts, but "financial ruin" "La La Land"....etc. BS waste of space. I read widely, but what I DON'T read is either The White House or the DNC websites. Neither are in my bookmarked sites as each clearly presents the party line. If I want to clear up something with respect to the President's position, I might google and go there. That's it.

I'm sorry if you're offended by my opinion of you and your perspectives, but my comment is sincere. If you ever demonstrate some balance in your criticisms, I'd be happy to compliment that.

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La Santa Muerte wrote:

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The problem is YOU "lunatics" who make assumptions about people who don't agree with you on every topic.
Your post is bursting with so many ridiculous misconceptions about me and where I stand on the issues and problems facing "our" country I won't even waste my time arguing with you.
Why not? Your mind is made up. You've judged me without prejudice. Your ignorance and mindset is disappointing.

Sorry.......... but who ever told you that your shit smells like roses?

How easy it is for you to label anyone who would take the time to try & understand both sides of any conflict as "lunatics", un-American, liberals, communist or a terrorist sympathizers.... and you do that shit all the time....... so I would argue that people like you are nothing more than bigots and there is nothing really patriotic about you.

You're simply a bigot comfortably wrapped in a cocoon of American flags, mottos and slogans.

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La Santa Muerte wrote:

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You want me to read the CBO's prediction (guess) for the next decade and do what, breathe easy? Say "Hallelujah Obama!"?
LMAO...and you call me a "kool aid" drinker?
Fool.

Considering the fact that you've made the allegations about Obama, I would have expected you to at least read up for 2012 to 2016 regarding the CBO outlook as that's all Obama will be under. Moreover, we have a Republican controlled House of Representatives who ultimately hold the power of the purse and can limit Obama at any time on spending but they don't... and that's becuase spending under Obama is falling at a 1.4% annual pace.

Unfortunately, you're incapable of comprehending the concept of statistics and how they're used in society today.

Sure, the CBO is an estimate but facts & figures are used and that alone is far more reliable than what you've presented with the simple denial of facts, figures and reality.

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>Exactly. We had an assault weapons ban. Didn't mean a thing except perhaps the acquisition mentality slowed. Good as far as I'm concerned. There is such a thing as too many weapons which certainly aren't cheap. Anyhow, you can blow a lot of dough on artillery to lock up somewhere and only bring out over a beer to show the boys how macho you are. Ridiculous. This is the "He who has the most toys at the time of his death is the winner" mentality. You can only use one at a time anyway, UNLESS you plan to shoot up a mall or a school or the neighborhood.

Something the left does not seem to understand is it is NOT about having "a beer to show the boys how macho you are". It is more about the times we live in. Countries with nuclear bombs and chemical weapons, the constant turmoil in the middle east, the possibility of total economic collapse, the ever growing Al Qaeda network, etc.

Some believe these fears to be irrational, but are they really? Is it possible any of these examples could result in major chaos? Of course it is.

Is it likely our home will burn down? No but we still obtain insurance in case it does. It is the same premise with our guns. Will a hand gun, rifle, or shotgun be enough if we have gangs of people searching for food? We have the constitutional right to protect ourselves and our families no matter who the "enemy" may be.

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>Okay, we tried it before, then released the hold when we let it expire, subsequently flooded the market, provided the guns manufacturers record profits, armed the cartels, etc., etc.
Republicans don't want to help the mentally ill. They live in protected environments and don't care if criminals kill each other and innocent bystanders. They won't care until it spills into their neighborhoods. Oops! Just did, didn't it? But, still, nobody wants to help with mental health care. Nope. They want to leave the most unstable out there to prey on the rest of us.
And, what if you're wrong, and crimes involving those kinds of weapons DO decline? Would it then be worth it? Why don't we find out if new mandatory background checks for purchase, and an end to the flood of assault weapons being sold that probably DO go out of this country to supply insurgents and Al Qaeda operatives and cartel drug dealers, etc. could make a difference in the stats? Could you draw a line in the sand if we resumed the ban we had before? Could you compromise there and with high capacity magazines? If you could, I'll get behind you if there are any further intrusions or suggestions we should ban more. A one time only deal.

"Republicans don't want to help the mentally ill. They live in protected environments and don't care if criminals kill each other and innocent bystanders."

Link please.

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--Old Man-- wrote:

<quoted text>NPR can't control her own life or what goes down under her own roof. Topix is the only place where she can feel she's in control..
She reminds me of Lily Tomlin in this clip from Laugh In.
Lily Tomlin & Cher Bono Gossip
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Always having her nose in other people's business. Then having the audacity to try and deny them of their opinion. She's just not worth your time. She is only here to vent, fight and argue with others. Her position is well known. It's all about her.. And ONLY her!
They all lie. It's the reson they prjudge others. They can't handle that others have it going on and they don't.

100% hyperbole & conjecture based on your unhealthy obsession & hate for NTR!!!

Keep it up and you'll lose that account too.

[Jaxxon]

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100% hyperbole & conjecture based on your unhealthy obsession & hate for NTR!!!
Keep it up and you'll lose that account too.

That's why he uses this account for these kinds of posts.

[NTRPRNR1]

Republican Honey wrote:

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"Republicans don't want to help the mentally ill. They live in protected environments and don't care if criminals kill each other and innocent bystanders."
Link please.

First, Republicans have been on record as wanting and planning to overturn the ACA under a Romney presidency. It didn't happen, but the intent has been made clear. Overturning the ACA would put millions out of the loop for mental health care of any kind. I may not be satisfied with the degree and scope of the ACA, but it sure beats a blank, and as of this moment, I've not heard from the Republicans any plan that would replace or improve what we have to date. Next, let's return to the wealthy in Congress (both parties) who are oblivous to the predicament of low wage and middle class Americans in need of health care (including mental health services):

Report: Nearly Half Of Congress, 67% Of Senate Are Millionaires
by Frances Martel | 10:14 am, November 20th, 2011

http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-nearly-...

...According to the study, though, 110 Democrats and 140 Republicans in Congress are millionaires.

What’s more, the numbers are conservative, since the top income bracket for their spouses is listed as “$1 million or more,” and the financial disclosure forms don’t include assets like the personal home of a member of Congress......(cont.)

..........

Millionaire Freshmen Make Congress Even Wealthier
By Communications on January 16, 2013

Ninety-four new senators and House members joined the 113th Congress. But if voters felt the last group of lawmakers was out of touch with "real America," the new class may not be better. In fact, according to a new analysis by the Center for Responsive Politics, the median estimated net worth of the incoming freshmen is almost exactly $1 million more than that of the typical American household.(cont.)

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2013/01/new-c...

[Jaxxon]

Republican Honey wrote:

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"Republicans don't want to help the mentally ill. They live in protected environments and don't care if criminals kill each other and innocent bystanders."
Link please.

Beyond Gun Control: Republicans Routinely Sabotage Mental Health And Police Budgets

...State Republicans have frustrated another major attempt to increase access to mental health services...

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/12/18/1...
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Snyder eyes mental health makeover, GOP skeptical

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/viewart/20...
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Dozens of States Rethink Recent Mental Health Budget Cuts

The reversal is especially jarring in statehouses dominated by conservative Republicans, who aggressively cut welfare programs but now find themselves caught in a crosscurrent of pressures involving gun control, public safety and health care for millions of disadvantaged Americans.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20130124/NEW...
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Some republican lawmakers are getting the message and reversing course, but the simple truth is that GOP politicians have led a concerted effort nationwide to cut mental health care funding.

[Jaxxon]

--Old Man-- wrote:

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No obsession at all. You guys think your shit don't stink. You put everybody down who has a differing opinion than you do. Here you are.. Still blaming Bush.. Well "Hispanic Rico" what are you
b!tches gonna do to fix the poblems? Continue to cry about Bush? Slander, fight, argue with anonymous posters on Topix?
C'mon big bad azz Rico, what ya gonna do? Yeah, we all know.. You and your buds are gonna go whining to Topx Moderators. LMAO..
Do you really think I care if you get this account banned? LMFAO.
So much for "sh!ts and giggles".
:)

Yawn

[NTRPRNR1]

--Old Man-- wrote:

<quoted text>NPR can't control her own life or what goes down under her own roof. Topix is the only place where she can feel she's in control..
She reminds me of Lily Tomlin in this clip from Laugh In.
Lily Tomlin & Cher Bono Gossip
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Always having her nose in other people's business. Then having the audacity to try and deny them of their opinion. She's just not worth your time. She is only here to vent, fight and argue with others. Her position is well known. It's all about her.. And ONLY her!
They all lie. It's the reson they prjudge others. They can't handle that others have it going on and they don't.

How's the illegal prescription drug running out of Mexico biz going these days? Up or down or about the same? I assume you "have it goin' on" still?

If you don't want me to smack the h*ll out of you repeatedly, I suggest you cease and desist mentioning me in your idiotic posts. Thanks.