The President has failed us

This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election. Read more

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

Coldwater, Mi

#6023 Jul 25, 2012
LMFAO at U wrote:
<quoted text>
You really prove that you're incapable of intelligent debate. All you do is go around posting your race baiting & hate articles and when anyone rebukes them or your own mundane comments, you show your double digit IQ and post an ignorant comment.
Keep up the stupid, we're all laughing at you.
You and who else, is laughing, IA?

“Try Reuters.”

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Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#6024 Jul 25, 2012
Obama is not a Socialist. This is what I object to in your posts. Obama is a Centrist according to a survey of Economists. He has been a much better friend to business than he has been given credit. No, I have looked at Romney and Obama, and I find Romney lacking. I see no reason to change course with Romney. Better luck next time.

Yes, our focus should be squarely on Congress. If they've sold out, vote them out, and don't be afraid to elect a member of the other party just to get the trash out of D.C.. Don't be afraid to believe in and support a Third Party candidate. Just look for ethics and somebody with clear vision and clear goals that you share - guy or gal, young or old. New blood is sorely needed. Be realistic. The American regulars so need a victory - any victory that puts us back toward optimism. We so much need to know that we can improve our lots in life. That means whatever we do, we MUST reduce corporate influence in the legislative process. It has become the root of all evil - because it has worked for them but not for most Americans. We must restrain them.
Jeff T in MPLS wrote:
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How sad that you would characterize my independent thinking as "twist, warp and mischaracterize"d.
Is that how you view anyone who is opposed to the socialist policies of Obama? That does not speak to the depth of your alleged "Republican until 2008" roots, unless that was disingenuous.
Also, isn't it interesting that you have no problem taking Romney or Bush to task, but not Obama. Again, your "slip" is showing.
Why are you so concerned with "wealth changing hands"? I don't think we need to address that as much as (and I agree with you on this) keeping the Plutocrats from hindering others not of their "group" to create their own wealth.
The seeming curse of wealth is the selfishness and self-centeredness that is borne of those seven, eight and more figured estates. The phenomena of retarding others growth is most evident in our ONE PARTY GOVERNMENT in the marriage of Washington DC and Wall Street.
What is lacking on BOTH sides of the isle and at both ends of the spectrum is integrity. Yet, we elect, and then look to re-elect people that have PROVEN they don't have integrity.
But want to blame other people. How sad.
X Obama Supporter

Coffeyville, KS

#6025 Jul 25, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know Romney did nothing illegal? Pure speculation. It was illegal to sign SEC filings indicating you were Managing Director when you say you weren't. Is it criminal? I don't know. But, I do know hundreds of ethical CEOs would never have done that. They would have called a Board meeting and elected an interim Acting Managing Director or some figurehead who WAS in control during the time Romney was on leave. That person (in this case, Romney, himself) would be attesting to the accuracy of the filing and its' truthfulness. How could a guy with no involvement at all sign on the dotted line without knowing the scoop? Either he knew and approved, or he was foolish to sign in ignorance and be held legally responsible for any misrepresentations.
Sounds kind of like Obama and the F&F situation. Obama has taken actions to make it difficult to find out exactly who signed on the dotted line for F&F. He and Holder are hiding everything they can on that. Wonder why???? What Romney did with his own money I couldn't care less, neither could most American's and the polls show it. It's the economy and Obama is losing on it. Obama takes OUR TAX DOLLARS and outsources jobs everyday through his "green jobs" bs and at least Romney made good investments with his own money, Obama's investments with our money keeps coming up bankrupt. How is Obama a better person to handle the economy than a successful businessman?

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Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#6026 Jul 25, 2012
jusathought wrote:
living in a notoriously blue state, i have had a lot of time to witness and reflect on the damage that is caused by too much of one political parties policies. pratically every politician in my state from governor to the local councils all have a (D) before their name. yet, the GM plant my grandparents retired from closed up shop...the police and fire departments are taking unpaid days off...the fire dept. is closing 3 stations in baltimore city...the steel mill(fmr. bethlehem steel) has closed down... the school teachers are losing retirement...all organizations listed are wall to wall union that support democrats. even before the steel mill shut down, democrats were stepping on their own feet, the upper third of the chesapeake bay has been given a failing grade and has been labeled unsafe to swim. the people living within 5 miles of the steel mill live on average 5 years less than those in the rest of the state, yet when the issue came up to clean up the waste and pollution created by the steel mill, the steel workers union fought pollution regulation saying it would cost jobs..???? so after witnessing the destruction caused by decades of democrat's rule, and seeing the crazy shit obamas doing and trying to do...i for one am voting him out before the east and west coasts(blue nanny states) are given a failing grade and labeled unsafe
I know how you feel living in California. The Democrats have called the shots here for years and the result? We have the largest debt of any state, we have been so badly overan by illegal aliens the rest of the Country might as well give California back to Mexico, we have three cities file for Bankruptcy, unable to pay for all the hand outs they give to the illegal aliens.
We have a massive drop out rate. Every industry that can move out of California has. The Good year plant that used to make tires, the Lockheasd plant that made Airliners, the auto plants that made cars all closed. Thank the liberals that run this State.

“Get RIGHT or be left”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

www.dreamindemon.com

#6027 Jul 25, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Listen, loser. I've been here in opposition to a trove of trolls without respite. You're the coward who has to create another identity to hide behind so that you can call other women wh*res and the like. Then, you support yourself under a different ID by stating what a "sweet woman" you are. I'm not "sweet". I'm a woman who isn't intimidated by trolls. I don't need a back-up to speak my mind. Every once in awhile, if somebody balanced and rational comes onto the thread and posts some truth or supports my efforts, I want them to know I thank them. I don't believe for a second that I'm the only poster on these threads who holds the opinions I do. I think most of them are much more part of mainstream consciousness than the stuff you right wing lunatics post.
Where is that intelligent man who said he supported Romney and said why? Aside from him,(and I did disagree but he made me think for about ten minutes), the rest of you don't even know why you support him or what he's about. I have genuine concerns about what he's about, and the huge sums of money flowing into his campaign chests from corporate America does nothing to allay my concerns. Worse, he has said nothing tangible to make me have a different opinion. I don't think he's trustworthy. So, I don't want to leap out of the slowly plodding jalopy we're in and into his pretty boat that may very well come wired with an IED.
But, if he should win this election, I will support him as our President and treat him as the office dictates he should be treated.
"the stuff you right wing lunatics post." <smirk> Really? You were a Republican until 2008? Like your hero Obama, you are a liar.

"I have genuine concerns about what he's about, and the huge sums of money flowing into his campaign chests from corporate America does nothing to allay my concerns"

But you have no problem with a PROVEN liar and deceiver requesting (the first EVER) BILLION dollar war chest for his campaign?

" Worse, he has said nothing tangible to make me have a different opinion."

And Obama has PROVEN that is not worthy of the office he holds, but you support him. How is that "transparent government" coming along, 3.5 years in? How is that economy? Corporate bailouts? All things that SHOULD be high on your radar screen, you give a pass to Obama, a PROVEN failure!

"I don't want to leap out of the slowly plodding jalopy we're in and into his pretty boat that may very well come wired with an IED."

Hint: You statement is supposition. I don't know if you have noticed, but the jalopy you are in RIGHT NOW is on fire! People like you are pouring gas on yourselves and it is splashing up on others. But you don't care about that, do you. You just want your "wealth distribution" plan that you believe (and are a little disappointed in) Obama was to have enacted.

What would be REALLY interesting and would tell the TRUE story of you would be a complete list of the charities and non-profits you have donated to in the last couple of year.

I suspect, and this is supposition on my part, that even prior to 2008 there are no "Republican" causes in your donation roster.

I am not a Romney supporter myself. But Obama has proven himself not to be Presidential material. Yet you are an Obama apologist.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

Coldwater, Mi

#6028 Jul 25, 2012
Romney is a job killer wrote:
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Obama is much more transparent than Romney is.
Romney didn't promise transparency to the American people......If he delivered then Romney would comply.....
Razors Edge

Oak Lawn, IL

#6029 Jul 25, 2012
Obama has..........

- Waged war on Libya without congressional approval
- Started a covert, drone war in Yemen
- Escalated the proxy war in Somalia
- Escalated the CIA drone war in Pakistan
- Will maintain a presence in Iraq even after "ending" war
- Sharply escalated the war in Afghanistan
- Secretly deployed US special forces to 75 countries
- Sold $30 billion of weapons to the dictatorship in Saudi Arabia
- Signed an agreement for 7 military bases in Colombia
- Touted nuclear power, even after the disaster in Japan
- Opened up deepwater oil drilling, even after BP disaster
- Did a TV commercial promoting "clean coal"
- Defended body scans and pat-downs at airports
- Signed the Patriot Act extension into law
- Continued Bush's rendition program

Did I miss anything?

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Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#6030 Jul 25, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>It's really like illegal immigrants themselves - supply and demand. As long as there's a demand, they'll find a way to supply.
Solutions:
Decriminalize marijuana and allow states to grow it here and control it like we do tobacco with tax revenues from users. Let the states where it grows well get back into hemp production - a $3.2 Billion dollar market for China that should be OUR market and our products produced on shore.(I'm conflicted on other drugs, but marijuana should be a given).
Demand Congress pass mandatory E-Verify as the law of the land, and brutally punish employers who violate it. If there are no "good" jobs, the border becomes a much more manageable place.
Ok I will agre with you there Drug are are dumb and a waste of money. If some body was to fry his brain, well its his brain and as long as he does send me the bill I could care less. I am Libertarian in this and other things.
But to say we would make any money by legalizing weed is also false since its so easy to grow most people would do that grow their own and not pay taxes on it.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

Coldwater, Mi

#6031 Jul 25, 2012
Interesting wrote:
<quoted text>
We no longer buy into your victim card.
Please don't speak for me...."I" would be a more appropriate word to use, don't you think...?

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Since: Feb 09

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#6032 Jul 25, 2012
As I said befor I dont really like Romney and will be holding my Nose when I vote for him.
I wish that like most European countries we had a better choice then between tweettledumb and tweetledumber.
But Oboma has proven he cannot govern even with having a large majority in both Houses , which he had for his first two years. If Oboma win again we are going to have four years of gridlock and nothing getting done. So if that sounds good vote Oboma.

“Try Reuters.”

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Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#6033 Jul 25, 2012
To Bonnie_Blue:

This is YOUR final warning. Do not annoy me, contact me or threaten me again - ever. I am forwarding this PM to Topix. I have faith that the Topix mods can figure out what's going on here. YOU once again started with me. I simply followed up with you. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen with your personal attacks and your vulgar posts under your -US Patriot- ID. When you call another woman a wh*re, don't expect she'll tolerate your abuse. This one will not.
..........

On July 25, 12, Bonnie_Blue wrote:
> Look you hateful old condescending heifer I'm damn tired of your attacks. I may
> not have the education you've had, but I'm not an idiot, and I'm damn tired of
> you treating like one. I've reported you to topix, so if I were you I'd back
> off now.
>
> Now that being said you leave me alone and I will do the same for you!

..........

Just so we all understand that some people are not equipped to deal with the stuff they start with other people. They have to go crying to the mods. This is what is known as "character defect". If you don't want to be "bothered", don't start stuff.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

Coldwater, Mi

#6034 Jul 25, 2012
Interesting wrote:
<quoted text>
What were his courses? Seriously he became a lawyer. What classes do you think he took? Mechanical engineering?
LMFAO!!
I don't care what he became....He became president too..
What I want to know is what he will become....
I don't know what classes he took...I can only speculate...
This is why I ask....
This is why many ask...
This is why my nation needs to know.....

“Try Reuters.”

Level 8

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#6036 Jul 25, 2012
californio wrote:
<quoted text> Ok I will agre with you there Drug are are dumb and a waste of money. If some body was to fry his brain, well its his brain and as long as he does send me the bill I could care less. I am Libertarian in this and other things.
But to say we would make any money by legalizing weed is also false since its so easy to grow most people would do that grow their own and not pay taxes on it.
Yes, but if we decriminalize it, we don't have to waste taxpayer dollars locking people up in jails and feeding and housing them on our dime. So, even if they start growing it themselves, we won't be wasting tax dollars on the stuff. And, once that happens, the Cartels won't find it attractive to bring their criminal pot enterprise into America along with the violence and corrupting influence. It won't be lucrative anymore, and U.S. dollars won't be flying out of the country propping up criminals. Strictly from the economics of it, the exchange will likely stay right here and the money be circulated in THIS economy. LOL (Gosh, that sounds so materialistic, huh?)

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

Coldwater, Mi

#6037 Jul 25, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>He was vetted, nominated and elected. This is only a re-election campaign. He doesn't start from scratch. You have no valid argument.
Not completely. He promised transparency..
My nation has the right to know and doesn't lose that right when someone is elected....

“Get RIGHT or be left”

Level 1

Since: Nov 07

www.dreamindemon.com

#6038 Jul 25, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
Obama is not a Socialist. This is what I object to in your posts. Obama is a Centrist according to a survey of Economists. He has been a much better friend to business than he has been given credit. No, I have looked at Romney and Obama, and I find Romney lacking. I see no reason to change course with Romney. Better luck next time.
Yes, our focus should be squarely on Congress. If they've sold out, vote them out, and don't be afraid to elect a member of the other party just to get the trash out of D.C.. Don't be afraid to believe in and support a Third Party candidate. Just look for ethics and somebody with clear vision and clear goals that you share - guy or gal, young or old. New blood is sorely needed. Be realistic. The American regulars so need a victory - any victory that puts us back toward optimism. We so much need to know that we can improve our lots in life. That means whatever we do, we MUST reduce corporate influence in the legislative process. It has become the root of all evil - because it has worked for them but not for most Americans. We must restrain them.
<quoted text>
"Obama is not a Socialist"

Government take over of private business (GM, Banks, etc)

Socialized medicine (ObamaCare)

Government intervention in business (TARP)

What were you saying?

"Obama is a Centrist according to a survey of Economists."

Could you post a link to support this statement?

Possibly some other entity than the Economic Policy Institute or the Brookings Institution?

Exactly how do you find Romney "lacking"?

I ask because there are many things about him with which I am not comfortable.

Regarding Congress, we agree!
Rico the Californian

Venice, CA

#6039 Jul 25, 2012
californio wrote:
<quoted text> I know how you feel living in California. The Democrats have called the shots here for years and the result? We have the largest debt of any state, we have been so badly overan by illegal aliens the rest of the Country might as well give California back to Mexico, we have three cities file for Bankruptcy, unable to pay for all the hand outs they give to the illegal aliens.
We have a massive drop out rate. Every industry that can move out of California has. The Good year plant that used to make tires, the Lockheasd plant that made Airliners, the auto plants that made cars all closed. Thank the liberals that run this State.
We have the largest debt of any state becuase we're the largest economy & state in the Union. I have to agree with you that California is a rather liberal with the checkbook and is why I have voted NO on every proposition that attempts to raise taxes.

I did not vote for Gov. Brown, I voted for Nightengale becuase even I feel that the state needs to put the brakes on its spending. As for the counties that are going BK in California, well they were screwed up from the get go.

Regarding the aerospace industry, that crap really pizzes me off as I went to A&P school back in the mid 90's and then all of the industry moves out mostly to Texas. Grrrr!!!

So California has allot to improve on but regardless, I love this place.

“Liberalism = Communism”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#6040 Jul 25, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
To Bonnie_Blue:
This is YOUR final warning. Do not annoy me, contact me or threaten me again - ever. I am forwarding this PM to Topix. I have faith that the Topix mods can figure out what's going on here. YOU once again started with me. I simply followed up with you. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen with your personal attacks and your vulgar posts under your -US Patriot- ID. When you call another woman a wh*re, don't expect she'll tolerate your abuse. This one will not.
..........
On July 25, 12, Bonnie_Blue wrote:
> Look you hateful old condescending heifer I'm damn tired of your attacks. I may
> not have the education you've had, but I'm not an idiot, and I'm damn tired of
> you treating like one. I've reported you to topix, so if I were you I'd back
> off now.
>
> Now that being said you leave me alone and I will do the same for you!
..........
Just so we all understand that some people are not equipped to deal with the stuff they start with other people. They have to go crying to the mods. This is what is known as "character defect". If you don't want to be "bothered", don't start stuff.
I may have annoyed you, but I did not threaten you liar. If you're doing nothing wrong I wouldn't have any reason to report you now would I? I tried to be civil and speak to you in private, but you have to prove you're the low life scumbag that I thought you were by posting it here. So don't try to act like you're so damned perfect, because you're no lady either!!

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higgans

Marion, IN

#6041 Jul 25, 2012
Bonnie_Blue wrote:
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ODUMBO doesn't want to provide jobs for the American people. In fact he is trying to shut down the fracking for oil in North Dakota where my husband is working. That would put thousands of hard working people out of work, and make us more dependent on foreign oil.
It has been proven that there is more high grade oil in ND,SD,NE,MT WY, and Canada than in all of the middle east. So why would anyone with half a brain want to close it?
let's face facts, OUR Government, en masse and irregardless of Party, does not want to provide jobs for Americans.
we have NO protective tariffs...
we constantly are fed FREE trade deals that are anything BUT fair to domestic jobs...
the Dept of Energy has only INCREASED our dependency on imports...
obviously, destroying jobs is good enough for the Feds. during the past 30-50 years, IT has instituted programs, policies and laws that have systemetically destroyed:
marriage (welfare)
the work ethic (welfare and SSI)
reasonable HC cost (Medicaid and Medicare)
jobs (NAFTA, etc...)
public education (NSLB, etc...)
college ed (student loans, diminished enrollment standards, etc...)
savings and loans (remember THAT 'crisis'?)
home values
race relations (look at the present divide AFTER electing our first black Pres!)
National and domestic security (terrorists aren't 'terrorists', profiling is BAAAD, crappy Foreign Policy, over extended Military, loose borders, Fast and Furious, etc...)
personal rights and freedoms (the Patriot Act, Homeland Scty, FEMA, HHS, HC Reform Act, etc...)
activist Fed Courts with NO Congressional oversight
Federal meddling in abortion and gay rights/marriage issues
hand-picked Federal exemptions to 'favored' entities
selective Executive Law enforcement
illegal, UNdeclared wars...constatntly, it seems, since the 80's
$9TRILLION in National Debt with NO end in sight
kowtowing to outside governing bodies (like the UN, NATO, China, etc...)
and, NOW, Class Warfare!
and sooo many morons posting here and everywhere else that STILL think MORE Government is the answer. or, that RE-electing the same anti-American incompetents will improve things for ANY Class of citizens.
LESS, limited government was the template. it was what worked for the first 100+ yrs... that and businesses NOT hiding behind impersonal and unaccountable corporations. and, before the rise of the elitist, statist Political Class. therefore...
less IS better
Rico the Californian

Venice, CA

#6042 Jul 25, 2012
Jeff T in MPLS wrote:
<quoted text>
"Obama is not a Socialist"
Government take over of private business (GM, Banks, etc)
Socialized medicine (ObamaCare)
Government intervention in business (TARP)
What were you saying?
"Obama is a Centrist according to a survey of Economists."
Could you post a link to support this statement?
Possibly some other entity than the Economic Policy Institute or the Brookings Institution?
Exactly how do you find Romney "lacking"?
I ask because there are many things about him with which I am not comfortable.
Regarding Congress, we agree!
Ironically these "socialist" policies would not be possible had it not been for Congress voting and appropriating the funding to "take over" these private businesses or even Obamacare, which turns out to be perfectly constitutional. Let not pretend that Obama did it all on his own.
racer42

Oakland, CA

#6043 Jul 25, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Polls are used by both parties in assessing how well their candidate is making his/her case before the American people. In the case of Real Clear Politics polls, they average numerous polls conducted by various news sources - useful in seeing the public's shift in support for a candidate.
They don't have a crystal ball, and they can't provide us with any absolutes, but they are useful and informative. Every campaign has eyes on every major poll which they use to calculate the weaknesses and strengths of their candidates.
If nothing else, they usually tell me that events of that week have favored one candidate over the other if the numbers increase for one and decline for the other. This is a very tight race.
Polls and the way they are used and abused are nothing more than proof positive that "figures never lie and liars always figure". Not sure who that quote is from.

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