A Texas-sized silence as immigration talks ramp up

Feb 9, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Deseret News

In this Jan. 29, 2013 file photo, Gov. Rick Perry delivers the state of the state address in the house chambers at the state capitol, in Austin, Texas.

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Halito

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Feb 9, 2013
 
Who will make Don Julios chips for Native American scolarships?
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It's not just border States that are feeling the pain. In Utah the Gov. is watching very carefully what's happening in Arizona and Texas. But we have become a Sanctuary city due to the dominant Religion. Mormon Missionaries indoctrinate millions in 3rd world country's. Once they are Babtized, they try to figure out how to get to the U.S. It's not just Mexico, but China, Japan, and many many other Country's. We simply need to stop allowing faith based Organizations from making promise's to these people and encouraging them to break our law's. We cannot afford millions more coming in. Rick Perry is too soft on illegal immigration and needs to get down to business protecting our border. No reform without border control period!!!
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Halito wrote:
Who will make Don Julios chips for Native American scolarships?
woulda U better take chips on the ships or chup fo the boat?!!;)

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Just as I have been saying.

Those Texas legislators, regardless of party, realize that the Texas economy relies on those "illegal" workers.

Whether it be for the huge farm and ranch operations, building, food processing, oil and gas, or even just small contractors and homeowners hiring workers for jobs around the house.

Texas Republicans who are lower on the socio-economic ladder complain about "illegals," but those at the top (including those who make the laws- from Governor Perry on down) will, at most, give it lip service. They WANT those illegals, even if they won't come out and say so for fear of turning off the white trash Republicans who feel they are losing jobs to illegals.
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Feb 10, 2013
 
Howze about we solve this problem. The only way most immigrants survive to "send home that money", as we have heard time and time again, is to receive money to live here. Whether by hard labor or crime.

About time we did a top to bottom purge of American businesses, large and small, and jailed every last one that hires these illegal workers. Let's start with 20 year sentences, no parole.

They cry socialism while they screw America in the back. Time to whip some small business azz over this illegal hiring issie.

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reeldeel wrote:
Howze about we solve this problem. The only way most immigrants survive to "send home that money", as we have heard time and time again, is to receive money to live here. Whether by hard labor or crime.
About time we did a top to bottom purge of American businesses, large and small, and jailed every last one that hires these illegal workers. Let's start with 20 year sentences, no parole.
They cry socialism while they screw America in the back. Time to whip some small business azz over this illegal hiring issie.
The problem is proving they knew they were hiring illegals.

Could YOU tell the difference between real documents and faked ones?

Are yhou willing to bet a 20 year prison sentence on it in case you're wrong?
Austinite

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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The problem is proving they knew they were hiring illegals.
Could YOU tell the difference between real documents and faked ones?
Are yhou willing to bet a 20 year prison sentence on it in case you're wrong?
Most do not have any docuents when hired so the employer knows right off what they are doing as they themselves profit from the usual lower wages, paying no state business tax on the employee, no state workers comp or unemployment insurance on the employee. Is a win win for the employer. Is a big loss for the state and even the city this is happening in.
If the ilegal commits identity theft and uses false papers then it can be hard for an honest employer to know. The employer will, eventually start getting No Match letters from Social Security regarding the employee and if the employer is honest will comunicate with them on this matter but most ignore them and act surprised when ICE shows up and raids them. Often the employer will warn the illegal who then goes elsewhere and gets work and a few more months or a year goes by before that employer gets the No Match letter.

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Most of the men and women who moved to the Texas territory were colonizers
Once in Texas, they also realized there was much money to be made in Mexico's cotton industry. Their problem of labor involved was quickly solved through slavery which Mexico had banned.

Shocked by the rapidly rising rate of white immigration and disgusted by their use of slavery, the Mexican government started slapping on restrictions, which were ignored. The battle of the Alamo was fought over issues like Federalism, slavery, immigration rights, the cotton industry and above all, money.
http://www.aaregistry.org/historic_events/vie...

Silent for no small reason, it'd be like the pot calling the kettle black to the 1000th power. Or perhaps silent because "Remember the Alamo" enthusiasts finally caught a glimpse of how them "Mexicans" felt back in 1836. And still do.
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Most of the men and women who moved to the Texas territory were colonizers
Once in Texas, they also realized there was much money to be made in Mexico's cotton industry. Their problem of labor involved was quickly solved through slavery which Mexico had banned.
Shocked by the rapidly rising rate of white immigration and disgusted by their use of slavery, the Mexican government started slapping on restrictions, which were ignored. The battle of the Alamo was fought over issues like Federalism, slavery, immigration rights, the cotton industry and above all, money.
http://www.aaregistry.org/historic_events/vie...
Silent for no small reason, it'd be like the pot calling the kettle black to the 1000th power. Or perhaps silent because "Remember the Alamo" enthusiasts finally caught a glimpse of how them "Mexicans" felt back in 1836. And still do.
Left alot out, hopefully not on purpose so let me fill in the many blanks.
Mexico was then as now corrupt and inept of leadership, and broke after their war with Spain.
Mexican and anglo colonists in Texas were allowed to form their own militias to protect themselves from indians and Mexican bandits since the Mexican soldiers in the are were criminals, given option of prison or join the military and be sent to Texas.
New taxes and tariffs became an increasing burden on both Mexican and anglo colonists in Texas.
Slavery was a contentious issue but far from the major reason of the revolt by Mexican and anglo colonists.
After a few government changes in Mexico the new President, Santa Anna abolished the constitution of 1824, assumed dictatorial powers, atempted to disarm the colonial militias, and started having farmers put in prison if they did not raise the crops desired by Mexico for their consumption in leu of export for monies split between the colonists and Mexican government.
Cotton was in high demand so colonists needed labor and since Mexico banned further immigration and most Mexicans did not want to live in Texas slaves were introduced to meet the stiff quotas of the Mexican government. This of course did not sit well but the choice was prison for not raising the quota of crops or prison for having slaves and meeting the quota of crops.
Mexican and anglo colonists in Texas held their version of the Boston Tea Party known as the Anahuac Disturbances in response to increased cutoms duties and tariffs/taxes by the Mexican government.
By this time Mexico had moved from a Federal government to a Central one and ordered the professional military into Texas in early 1835 to repress with all force all who do not comply.
The actual fighting started pretty much after that and the rest is history.
In a way it kind of rings alot like the colonies revolution against the crown back in England.
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Halito wrote:
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Don Julio upgrading tortilla 'press'

At Don Julio Foods Inc., a new $3 million press that can make 3,800 dozen flour tortillas an hour is expected to improve efficiency

Read more: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700253120/...
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Feb 10, 2013
 
I guess the politicians in Texas are wimps too, much like the rest of the country. They're gutless to express an opinion that would be good for the country because they're too worried about what the hispanic vote will think. I thought, of all states, Texas would have the balls to do what's right. I never thought I'd see the day when Texas was afraid to enforce the law. The Texas people deserve better representation.

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Mayela wrote:
Silent for no small reason, it'd be like the pot calling the kettle black to the 1000th power. Or perhaps silent because "Remember the Alamo" enthusiasts finally caught a glimpse of how them "Mexicans" felt back in 1836. And still do.
While you won't see it in the 1950's John Wayne movie, Tejanos ("Hispanic" residents of Texas) fought and died defending the Alamo. Other Tejanos served with Sam Houston at San Jacinto and other battles. Some, like Juan Seguin, later took important positions in the government of the new Republic of Texas.
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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The problem is proving they knew they were hiring illegals.
Could YOU tell the difference between real documents and faked ones?
Are yhou willing to bet a 20 year prison sentence on it in case you're wrong?
Can't tell the difference? I believe you're being serious aren't you? And the libs are out of touch with reality? can't tell the difference, good f'ing grief, wake up dude, it's morning son.

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Can't tell the difference? I believe you're being serious aren't you? And the libs are out of touch with reality? can't tell the difference, good f'ing grief, wake up dude, it's morning son.
Why do you find it so hard to believe anyone with a decent laser printer, a laminating machine, a computer and an IQ over 100 could make a quality fake that would fool most citizens?

The counterfeiters use the same technology the government does. The counterfeiters have had the ability to produce top quality fakes for years.

Seriously, look at your Social Security card, birth certificate, or driver's license. There's nothing there that a half-way clever college kid with a decent color laser printer couldn't fake in his dorm room.

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