Immigration activists push for citize...

Immigration activists push for citizenship, nothing less

There are 527 comments on the Detroit News story from Feb 8, 2013, titled Immigration activists push for citizenship, nothing less. In it, Detroit News reports that:

Immigration activists say they won't settle for anything short of a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants in a bill emerging in Congress.

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El Cid

Austin, TX

#21 Feb 8, 2013
hardworker wrote:
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OMG !! What a extreme argument!! You compare Apples with oranges...
Not at all.
hardworker

Dallas, TX

#22 Feb 8, 2013
El Cid wrote:
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Wrong on so many levels.
I worked in the melon and peanut fields in Pearsall, Texas when I was in high school and was paid the $3.35 an hour minimum wage, like hundreds of other teens and adults.
Illegals started showing up in the mid 1980s and were working for $1.00 and hour so the next season guess what? No more work for Americans, more illegals were around and they were working for $1.00 and hour. It is not that Americans were unwilling or unable to do the work at all. My brother finished trade school as a a carpenter and worked on houses for many years in San Antonio, making over $18.00 and hour, no benefits though. In 2003 he was laid off and his boss told him and the 5 others that he has hired 16 illegal aliens to do the work the 6 Americans were doing but was paying them only $8.00 and hour each. So it takes 16 illegal aliens to do the work that Americans did but at a fraction of the cost.
American can do the work and did it before but when the wages are so low because illegals do the work then Americans cannot afford to do the jobs.
Illegals as a rule do not pay any taxes other than local sales taxes when they buy this and that. If they are paying Federal taxes then it is mostly because of identity theft buy using the SS# of someone else. True some file using a Taxpayer ID but they claim well below earnings to warrant paying in so they collect billions in refunds and add their kids on to make more in refunds. Taxpayer IDs are also not for illegals at all and even the IRS admits Illegals are doing this and it is against the law but the the IRS states that IRS does not enforce immigration law. Does not seem they enforce their own either by this clear tax fraud.
I ended up joining the military and they/taxpayers paid for my university education. I recently retired after 25 years of service and am an MD, Psychiatrist who has my own practice now.
If you had could pay your bills working for $1.00 an hour at that time . I'm pretty sure you would do it . Employers abuse goes on both sides ...
Big Al

Dover, DE

#23 Feb 8, 2013
That cockroach Orin Hatch is pushing for an additional 300,000 h1 visas. This at a time when there is NO shortage of high tech workers.
El Cid

Austin, TX

#24 Feb 8, 2013
hardworker wrote:
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If you had could pay your bills working for $1.00 an hour at that time . I'm pretty sure you would do it . Employers abuse goes on both sides ...
I would but that does not excuse the criminality of the business by paying less than the required wage nor the criminality of the illegal alien being here. They now actually pay by the basket/box which is even worse. What happened after that was a flood that soon burst at the seams the local hospitals, schools, jail, and so on as they had to be expanded in the next decade to absorb this influx. The town even got their first public housing units for all the illegal alien mothers birthing babies on American soil, which led to the creation of and later expansion of the welfare office as well. Mother with small child and no means of support in public housing and getting food stamps, WIC and all that while working out in the fields and so gets the free to practically free daycare to boot.
Yup, illegals really contribute.
nike

Bronx, NY

#25 Feb 8, 2013
Rico from East Los II wrote:
I would prefer some kind of legal status but not citizenship.
exactly, i am happy that they are championing path to citizenship, but 99.9% of illegal immigrants would be very happy with having just legal status.
Magadala

Auburn, WA

#26 Feb 8, 2013
"Are there options we should consider between the extremes of mass deportation and a pathway to citizenship for those not lawfully present in the United States?"

Why is it they shy away from the most effect and least costly control of illegal immigration! Attrition!!! Internal enforcement of our laws! What's wrong with enforcing e-verify as fast as the obam signed DACA?!!! What's wrong with no rent, no contract, etc, laws and enforcement of them? Try on our federal government NOT filing suit against states who are trying to enforce FEDERAL immigration laws?!!!
Magadala

Auburn, WA

#27 Feb 8, 2013
It started in 1492 wrote:
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But if your brothers let the cook to cook for everybody and pays him cheap wages under the table,so He can only afford to eat beans,he can share some beans and your brother can share some meat and other some tortillas,so everybody would enjoy eating the tacos without guilt of being a hypocrite...
That's ONE of the problems, you think everyone should be like you! We all don't want your meat 'n tortillas! Calm down and go to where that sort of stuff is enbraced. Pleeze don't make the mistake of thinking you are going to turn America into mexico! You have no idea of the backlash that is swelling against hispanics, particularly mexican illegal aliens, if 11 million people are dumped overnight with green cards on America's unemployed!

Just say'in!
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#28 Feb 8, 2013
These so-called activist's do not speak for millions of Legal Americans and thousands of Legal immigrant's, and those waiting in line legally. You simply cannot honor theft. Just amnesty is all they want. Too Bad....You haven't earned the right's that Legal Americans, and thousands of Veterans, that paid the ultimate for our right's and freedom's. Why is this concept so difficult for these Law breakers and their anchors to understand. No amnesty Period.!!!!
hardworker

Dallas, TX

#29 Feb 8, 2013
Magadala wrote:
"Are there options we should consider between the extremes of mass deportation and a pathway to citizenship for those not lawfully present in the United States?"
Why is it they shy away from the most effect and least costly control of illegal immigration! Attrition!!! Internal enforcement of our laws! What's wrong with enforcing e-verify as fast as the obam signed DACA?!!! What's wrong with no rent, no contract, etc, laws and enforcement of them? Try on our federal government NOT filing suit against states who are trying to enforce FEDERAL immigration laws?!!!
Government see the whole picture , they govern for everyone but at the same time they will never accept what extreme nativist , restrictionists americans want to do with immigrants ..get it ..don't you presume that this is the most democratic country??
Barry bama baby

United States

#30 Feb 8, 2013
Would all party crashers (illegals)PLEASE EXIT the premises and LEAVE immediately! IF you are NOT invited...GET THE *BLEEP* OUT!!!!
The sign says DO NOT ENTER! UNDERSTAND????
Barry bama baby

United States

#31 Feb 8, 2013
ronnie wrote:
These so-called activist's do not speak for millions of Legal Americans and thousands of Legal immigrant's, and those waiting in line legally. You simply cannot honor theft. Just amnesty is all they want. Too Bad....You haven't earned the right's that Legal Americans, and thousands of Veterans, that paid the ultimate for our right's and freedom's. Why is this concept so difficult for these Law breakers and their anchors to understand. No amnesty Period.!!!!
BEAUTIFUL! RIGHT ON!!!
hardworker

Dallas, TX

#32 Feb 8, 2013
El Cid wrote:
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I would but that does not excuse the criminality of the business by paying less than the required wage nor the criminality of the illegal alien being here. They now actually pay by the basket/box which is even worse. What happened after that was a flood that soon burst at the seams the local hospitals, schools, jail, and so on as they had to be expanded in the next decade to absorb this influx. The town even got their first public housing units for all the illegal alien mothers birthing babies on American soil, which led to the creation of and later expansion of the welfare office as well. Mother with small child and no means of support in public housing and getting food stamps, WIC and all that while working out in the fields and so gets the free to practically free daycare to boot.
Yup, illegals really contribute.
You are so selfish...all of that is the social help that government gives to everyone living, working , contributing to the economy in the way that they can. If for some reason they qualify for government assistance due to their income loss or reduced . How that affect you?.. just because they are immigrants? Because they crossed the border with no papers?... because you believe they take away everything from americans ? Do you think all immigrants are 'takers'? You are wrong and only like to see the bad side in this human issue..
Barry bama baby

United States

#33 Feb 8, 2013
I bet there are AT LEAST 40 million illegals and their anchors in the USA using up our water, landfill space, schools, food, medical services, quality air space, roads, etc.....
Soon it will all be gone and we will be like INDIA or China and we will suffer!
hardworker

Dallas, TX

#34 Feb 8, 2013
Barry bama baby wrote:
Would all party crashers (illegals)PLEASE EXIT the premises and LEAVE immediately! IF you are NOT invited...GET THE *BLEEP* OUT!!!!
The sign says DO NOT ENTER! UNDERSTAND????
One sign says DO NOT ENTER and the other says HELP WANTED!!! Delete one ...Lol..!!
hardworker

Dallas, TX

#35 Feb 8, 2013
Barry bama baby wrote:
Would all party crashers (illegals)PLEASE EXIT the premises and LEAVE immediately! IF you are NOT invited...GET THE *BLEEP* OUT!!!!
The sign says DO NOT ENTER! UNDERSTAND????
Americans are not invited to the poor countries that they make war ...immigrants will conquer you with not even a single bullet used...be ready...
Barry bama baby

United States

#36 Feb 8, 2013
Immigrants from third world hell holes that they helped make into shi**y messes will destroy the USA!
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Illegal immigrants and their kids are like roaches and thieves that break into your home and destroy everything you have worked so hard for.
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Illegals are a menace to the USA and need to GET OUT!
Oh and just to let you know...I am BLACK!
Befree

Brooklyn, NY

#37 Feb 8, 2013
What my brother want and need is just a paper that allows then to work legally, and to go back and forth to visit their love ones. Citizenship comes secondary, I don't care about Citizenship but is I was given the opportunity do become a Citizen I would do it.
Let's not be racist about it people this will only help the economy
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#38 Feb 8, 2013
hardworker wrote:
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Americans are not invited to the poor countries that they make war ...immigrants will conquer you with not even a single bullet used...be ready...
If you think you can conquer and take over, why is you're own Country a sewer. You couldn't even care for yourselves in your homeland. You don't seriously believe that toilet cleaning and yard work will allow a take over of our Sovereignty? You have zero right's here. Go home fix the toilet you came out of, life will be good for us Americans... Thank you!
Barry bama baby

United States

#39 Feb 8, 2013
Because of the illegals, African Americans have been stripped of the resources that should have come to us to help and preserve our race in the USA!
Hispanics have destroyed our chances for safe cities, quality educations, and jobs.
HISPANIC ILLEGALS GO HOME!!!
hardworker

Dallas, TX

#40 Feb 8, 2013
Barry bama baby wrote:
Immigrants from third world hell holes that they helped make into shi**y messes will destroy the USA!
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Illegal immigrants and their kids are like roaches and thieves that break into your home and destroy everything you have worked so hard for.
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Illegals are a menace to the USA and need to GET OUT!
Oh and just to let you know...I am BLACK!
I tought you consider yourself american (no matter your race), if not I feel sorry for you...

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