Immigration activists push for citizenship, nothing less

Feb 8, 2013 Full story: Detroit News 527

Immigration activists say they won't settle for anything short of a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants in a bill emerging in Congress.

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#1 Feb 8, 2013
Legalization for immigrants to gain green cards after background checks,pay fees and back taxes with path to citizenship after 5 years of good behavior...
SI Se Puede!
SI SE PUEDE

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Feb 8, 2013
It started in 1492 wrote:
Legalization for immigrants to gain green cards after background checks,pay fees and back taxes with path to citizenship after 5 years of good behavior...
SI Se Puede!
Claro que se puede brother!
El Cid

Austin, TX

#3 Feb 8, 2013
No, criminal behaviour should never be rewarded. Reagan gave amnesty to almost 9 million criminals and these 9 million were allowed to bring in roughlt 15 million more of their family or whoever they claimed to be family to sopp at the taxpayer wallets. 30 years later between 14 and 29 million more illegal aliens are here demanding their amnesty.
immigraniada

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Feb 8, 2013
but if you give me de invitation to hear the bells of freedom chime,To Hell with your "double standard# We coming rougher every time emigrada immigraniada da!
http://youtu.be/zKoQgODwveE
hardworker

Dallas, TX

#5 Feb 8, 2013
Citizenship , nothing else ....si se puede!!
allornothing

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Feb 8, 2013
immigraniada wrote:
but if you give me de invitation to hear the bells of freedom chime,To Hell with your "double standard# We coming rougher every time emigrada immigraniada da!
http://youtu.be/zKoQgODwveE
"I'm gonna get representation to be accepted in this Nation,where after efforts of a hero,Welcome start again from Zero!" Emigrada Immigraniada da!
El Cid

Austin, TX

#7 Feb 8, 2013
Just because you are eating bean at home and smell steak from your neighbors house is not an invitation to break into your neighbors house for something better to eat.

“Rico's Are Everywhere”

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Since: Dec 09

Gangland, North America

#8 Feb 8, 2013
I would prefer some kind of legal status but not citizenship.

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#9 Feb 8, 2013
El Cid wrote:
Just because you are eating bean at home and smell steak from your neighbors house is not an invitation to break into your neighbors house for something better to eat.
But if your brothers let the cook to cook for everybody and pays him cheap wages under the table,so He can only afford to eat beans,he can share some beans and your brother can share some meat and other some tortillas,so everybody would enjoy eating the tacos without guilt of being a hypocrite...
El Cid

Austin, TX

#10 Feb 8, 2013
It started in 1492 wrote:
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But if your brothers let the cook to cook for everybody and pays him cheap wages under the table,so He can only afford to eat beans,he can share some beans and your brother can share some meat and other some tortillas,so everybody would enjoy eating the tacos without guilt of being a hypocrite...
I presume from your post that the cook is an illegal alien who has consented to work for the wages so therefore if it is beans that the wages afford then that is what it is. If the cook steals meat in order to eat better then he is a criminal, on top of being an illegal alien, on top of illegally working without a valid Social Security number, and likely on top of not paying taxes on wages earned. Of course the employer too is a criminal for knowingly hiring an illegal alien.
Now if a person legally enters the country and works to better the country and themselves then I welcome any such person but illegal aliens are to be arrested, jailed, then deported as the common criminals they are.

“Rico's Are Everywhere”

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Since: Dec 09

Gangland, North America

#11 Feb 8, 2013
El Cid wrote:
Just because you are eating bean at home and smell steak from your neighbors house is not an invitation to break into your neighbors house for something better to eat.
Don't worry little buddy... you'll get your food stamps eventually.

“Rico's Are Everywhere”

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Since: Dec 09

Gangland, North America

#12 Feb 8, 2013
It started in 1492 wrote:
<quoted text>
But if your brothers let the cook to cook for everybody and pays him cheap wages under the table,so He can only afford to eat beans,he can share some beans and your brother can share some meat and other some tortillas,so everybody would enjoy eating the tacos without guilt of being a hypocrite...
Don't waste your time with these people. They're all hypocrites on welfare because they rather stay at home instead of going out and getting a job. That's the difference between the illegals and these azzholes that claim to be patriotic Americans on Topix.
nope to dope

Houston, TX

#13 Feb 8, 2013
Rico from East Los II wrote:
I would prefer some kind of legal status but not citizenship.
They have "status" and "citizenship" in their home countries. They can all return whence they came.

“Legals against Illegals!”

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Since: Dec 11

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#14 Feb 8, 2013
I say all we have to do is treat you illegals exactly like your POS country does.
We will reform our laws to match mexico's law word for word and enforce them just as strongly as your pos country does!

you ignorant morons!

http://www.topix.com/forum/us/illegal-immigra...
Lillyflower1

United States

#15 Feb 8, 2013
"illegal aliens are to be arrested, jailed, then deported as the common criminals they are." El Cid, have you considered that majority of the times its foreigners that come to this great country and do the work that those who were born here don't want to do? Majority of the illegal individual in this country do want to work and pay their taxes. They just don't have a legal status that allows them to operate legally. So its a very wise and practical decision to grant them with the citizenship they need to function effectively in this country, which will help both them and the USA economy.
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>
I presume from your post that the cook is an illegal alien who has consented to work for the wages so therefore if it is beans that the wages afford then that is what it is. If the cook steals meat in order to eat better then he is a criminal, on top of being an illegal alien, on top of illegally working without a valid Social Security number, and likely on top of not paying taxes on wages earned. Of course the employer too is a criminal for knowingly hiring an illegal alien.
Now if a person legally enters the country and works to better the country and themselves then I welcome any such person but illegal aliens are to be arrested, jailed, then deported as the common criminals they are.
Lillyflower1

United States

#16 Feb 8, 2013
"illegal aliens are to be arrested, jailed, then deported as the common criminals they are." El Cid, have you considered that majority of the times its foreigners that come to this great country and do the work that those who were born here don't want to do? Majority of the illegal individual in this country do want to work and pay their taxes. They just don't have a legal status that allows them to operate legally. So its a very wise and practical decision to grant them with the citizenship they need to function effectively in this country, which will help both them and the USA economy.
El Cid

Austin, TX

#17 Feb 8, 2013
Rico from East Los II wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't worry little buddy... you'll get your food stamps eventually.
LOL, hardly need them. I spend more on single malt scotch and cigars for myself in a week than 5 minimum wage workers make working full time in a week.
rose

United States

#18 Feb 8, 2013
I believe obma Avery things change cry baby
El Cid

Austin, TX

#19 Feb 8, 2013
Lillyflower1 wrote:
"illegal aliens are to be arrested, jailed, then deported as the common criminals they are." El Cid, have you considered that majority of the times its foreigners that come to this great country and do the work that those who were born here don't want to do? Majority of the illegal individual in this country do want to work and pay their taxes. They just don't have a legal status that allows them to operate legally. So its a very wise and practical decision to grant them with the citizenship they need to function effectively in this country, which will help both them and the USA economy. <quoted text>
Wrong on so many levels.
I worked in the melon and peanut fields in Pearsall, Texas when I was in high school and was paid the $3.35 an hour minimum wage, like hundreds of other teens and adults.
Illegals started showing up in the mid 1980s and were working for $1.00 and hour so the next season guess what? No more work for Americans, more illegals were around and they were working for $1.00 and hour. It is not that Americans were unwilling or unable to do the work at all. My brother finished trade school as a a carpenter and worked on houses for many years in San Antonio, making over $18.00 and hour, no benefits though. In 2003 he was laid off and his boss told him and the 5 others that he has hired 16 illegal aliens to do the work the 6 Americans were doing but was paying them only $8.00 and hour each. So it takes 16 illegal aliens to do the work that Americans did but at a fraction of the cost.
American can do the work and did it before but when the wages are so low because illegals do the work then Americans cannot afford to do the jobs.
Illegals as a rule do not pay any taxes other than local sales taxes when they buy this and that. If they are paying Federal taxes then it is mostly because of identity theft buy using the SS# of someone else. True some file using a Taxpayer ID but they claim well below earnings to warrant paying in so they collect billions in refunds and add their kids on to make more in refunds. Taxpayer IDs are also not for illegals at all and even the IRS admits Illegals are doing this and it is against the law but the the IRS states that IRS does not enforce immigration law. Does not seem they enforce their own either by this clear tax fraud.
I ended up joining the military and they/taxpayers paid for my university education. I recently retired after 25 years of service and am an MD, Psychiatrist who has my own practice now.
hardworker

Dallas, TX

#20 Feb 8, 2013
El Cid wrote:
Just because you are eating bean at home and smell steak from your neighbors house is not an invitation to break into your neighbors house for something better to eat.
OMG !! What a extreme argument!! You compare Apples with oranges...

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