Second-generation immigrants better o...

Second-generation immigrants better off than parents

There are 112 comments on the Marshfield News-Herald story from Feb 7, 2013, titled Second-generation immigrants better off than parents. In it, Marshfield News-Herald reports that:

Second-generation immigrants are faring far better than their parents, earning more money, owning more homes and getting more college degrees, according to a report released Thursday.

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Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#21 Feb 10, 2013
" And I thought,“What are we doing that’s so wrong, so pathetic?”

Spending too much time and money on ESL and Hispanic studies and not enough on educating immigrant and American students. Illegal aliens do not just do economic damage, decrease wages and increase in crime. They are causing damage that will affect us and this nation for generations to come.

Thank you for all of the information you have posted showing the damage that illegal aliens cause. Keep up the good work!
Mayela

Atlanta, GA

#22 Feb 10, 2013
Cuban immigrants are protected from deportation under the “wet foot, dry foot policy,” which means once they reach American shore they cannot forcibly be returned to their country.

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/201...

Why this difference? Why this bias? What is the reason for this preferential treatment? Once this preferential treatment ends, perhaps some of the other inequalities will begin to level off. A Cuban fleeing on a raft reaches the beach and is "safe and secure", eligible for any government benefit, meanwhile a Guatemalan woman, whose husband has been killed, whose farm has been burned has traversed on foot for THOUSANDS of miles, is considered or referred to as an "Illegal"? Only because Castro forbids Cubans from speaking freely? Come on. So does the Chinese government, so does the Vietnamese government and so does the Taliban. Cubans rub this on the face of that Guatemalan "illegal", and her children. Cubans think this is something to boast about?
Mayela

Atlanta, GA

#23 Feb 10, 2013
However, unlike the Cuban immigrants, Haitian immigrants, derogatively referred to as "the boat people," faced insurmountable racism and alienation for their entry into the United States.
http://www.examiner.com/article/hispanic-amer...

Hmmm, you can't help but wonder. So curious to try and find out the REASON or REASONS for the level of "insurmountable racism and alienation" Haitian immigrants are subjected to.
Anonymous

Wilmette, IL

#24 Feb 10, 2013
Mayela wrote:
Cuban immigrants are protected from deportation under the “wet foot, dry foot policy,” which means once they reach American shore they cannot forcibly be returned to their country.
Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/201...
Why this difference? Why this bias? What is the reason for this preferential treatment? Once this preferential treatment ends, perhaps some of the other inequalities will begin to level off. A Cuban fleeing on a raft reaches the beach and is "safe and secure", eligible for any government benefit, meanwhile a Guatemalan woman, whose husband has been killed, whose farm has been burned has traversed on foot for THOUSANDS of miles, is considered or referred to as an "Illegal"? Only because Castro forbids Cubans from speaking freely? Come on. So does the Chinese government, so does the Vietnamese government and so does the Taliban. Cubans rub this on the face of that Guatemalan "illegal", and her children. Cubans think this is something to boast about?
I have yet to see a Cuban behave in the manner Mexicans do.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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#25 Feb 10, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
<quoted text>
If so many immigrant children speak English why do so many children of illegal aliens not speak English? It is true that honest hard working people devote more time and money to their children than criminals do.
One must remember that ESL was not offered to German immigrants in the 1800's or 1900's though German families rarly allowed their children to speak anything but English in or out of the home. The same is true for Italians and most other immigrants or the period.
True enough...it started in the 60's.

http://www.slideshare.net/legal5/legal-histor...
Mayela

Atlanta, GA

#26 Feb 10, 2013
These four migrations have brought substantial numbers of Cubans to the United States

While the earliest migrants were drawn from the highly educated and conservative middle and upper classes—those who had the most to lose from a socialist revolution—more recent migrants have been poorer and less educated. In the past several decades, the migrant population has come to look more like the Cuban population as a whole and less like the highest socioeconomic stratum of that population.
Read more: http://www.everyculture.com/multi/Bu-Dr/Cuban...

Picture becoming clearer, clearer.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#27 Feb 10, 2013
Mayela wrote:
However, unlike the Cuban immigrants, Haitian immigrants, derogatively referred to as "the boat people," faced insurmountable racism and alienation for their entry into the United States.
http://www.examiner.com/article/hispanic-amer...
Hmmm, you can't help but wonder. So curious to try and find out the REASON or REASONS for the level of "insurmountable racism and alienation" Haitian immigrants are subjected to.
There is no wonder. It is not that illegal Haitian immigrants are subjected to "insurmountable racism and alienation". Illegal aliens from Haiti are treated like illegal aliens from any other country are treated. They are considered criminals and treated as such. It is that illegal Hispanics are given preferential treatment in comparison to African, Asian and European illegal aliens. Remember nobody is courting their votes. Very few Asians, Europeans or blacks have illegal friends and relatives or support amnesty.
Mayela

Atlanta, GA

#28 Feb 10, 2013
This book looks at Mexican Americans as active agents in history and documents their quest for educational equality in Texas--a state notorious for its record of inferior and separate schooling for Mexican Americans, and the first state in which Mexican Americans organized a statewide struggle for equality in the public schools. The book is divided into three historical periods. Part I, 1910-40, overviews the historical context of Mexican American education, describes educational policies and practices developed by state and local officials as Mexican American enrollment increased, and focuses on the founding of the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) in the 1920s. Part II traces educational developments during 1940-65; discusses effects of the Good Neighbor Policy during World War II on public policy and the status of Mexican Americans; describes legal, administrative, and political mechanisms used by LULAC to fight school segregation; and examines LULAC's efforts to provide English instruction to preschool children. Part III, 1965-81, describes important civil rights, educational, and poverty legislation of the 1960s; the emergence and efforts of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF); and the role of Mexican Americans in the evolution of bilingual education policy. The final chapter concludes that, despite notable accomplishments, Mexican Americans have failed to eradicate educational discrimination in Texas
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/search/d...

Racism, intolerance and discrimination alive and well in the U.S.
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#29 Feb 10, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
<quoted text>
The article tells you where the numbers come from:
"The median annual household income for the U.S.-born children of immigrants is $58,100, a marked improvement over the $45,800 their parents generated and nearly as high as the $58,200 median income for all U.S. adults, according to a report by the Pew Research Center."
Does it really surprise you that second generation immigrants earn, on average, almost the same amount as Americans in general?
You've been listening to too many of the nutty right wing radio talkers who try and convince you that "Mexicans never learn English- even after the third or 4th generation"- which is total nonsense. I don't know any 2nd generation Mexican-American who doesn't speak English as his primary language, and by the third generation, they generally speak ENGLISH ONLY.
If the pew weren't skewed I might believe that. If 2nd and 3rd Generation Mexicans spoke English why is it in most Faith based Organizations do they have separate factions and meeting's for non-english speaking groups? I've know many Mexican family's third generation, and worked with them, and they still use Spanish as their primary language. Pew isn't always right as proven by many other research groups. They are firstly wrong about this 11 million number being vetted for amnesty. There are probably 20 million at best.
Mayela

Atlanta, GA

#30 Feb 10, 2013
"The problem is not the unwillingness of Mexican Americans to adopt Americans values and culture but the failure of societal institutions, particularly public schools, to successfully integrate them as they did the descendants of European immigrants."
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-stu...

The picture becomes clearer and clearer.
Anonymous

Wilmette, IL

#31 Feb 10, 2013
ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>If the pew weren't skewed I might believe that. If 2nd and 3rd Generation Mexicans spoke English why is it in most Faith based Organizations do they have separate factions and meeting's for non-english speaking groups? I've know many Mexican family's third generation, and worked with them, and they still use Spanish as their primary language. Pew isn't always right as proven by many other research groups. They are firstly wrong about this 11 million number being vetted for amnesty. There are probably 20 million at best.
You are right,I agree.
One thing I want to add.
It's all about Mexico to these Mexicans, but what is funny about the way they act,speak their language in public and force their ways upon us,,, is that many , many other groups of Hispanics out there have assimilated,learned the language and still( I say still) keep their culture/tradition/habits/relig ion etc. They know no one can take that away from them. There is no need to whip the flag out,play your music and scream at the top of ur lungs,"viva Mexico". They are not out there speaking Spanish in public,forcing their ways upon others.They are well aware that in order to progress they need to assimilate,learn the language/American way .They practice their Culture,etc. at home , in the privacy of their own home,,, not flaunting it around as if they are about to lose it!
This is what get's to me when it comes to the Mexican population,they have no respect for America,her ways,her language,,,, they only want the money/my money/your money.
sickofit

Northfield, MN

#32 Feb 10, 2013
Mayela wrote:
"The problem is not the unwillingness of Mexican Americans to adopt Americans values and culture but the failure of societal institutions, particularly public schools, to successfully integrate them as they did the descendants of European immigrants."
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-stu...
The picture becomes clearer and clearer.
What so many forget is that back when the so called European people immigrated they kept there traditions and language and values...In many towns in midwest you will still find swedish and norweigen club houses and society groups....Yet people dont compain about them just the mexicans...THINK ITS RACISM.
Magadala

North Bend, WA

#33 Feb 10, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
<quoted text>
Despite the rantings of a conspiracy theorist radio talk show host (the "source" blog you quote), literacy in Mexico is over 90%. Less than the USA, yes, but certainly not extraordinarily low.
90%, REALLY?!!! I guess my theory is true! mexico flushed its toilet and the sewage flowed to America! School districts (FL) are lowering their standards so that they can graduate hs! LA has an almost less than 50% hs graduation rate for illegal aliens!
I got it, the stupid ones come here!!!
Mayela

Atlanta, GA

#34 Feb 10, 2013
many in the military resented Zoot suiters because their dress placed them in direct defiance of the war boards rationing act, a law that forbade the use of excess garment material

press accounts favored the sailors, so did the police department

they would go around and arrest the Mexicans, and put them in jail for disturbing the peace

emboldened military personnel continued their rampage through Los Angeles for two more days

President Roosevelt ordered the Navy to control it’s sailors

It’s a misnomer to call the zoot suit riots, the zoot suit riots, because it was really a MILITARY riot

the servicemen would go and strip adolescents of their zoot suits, and they would beat the kids up

the riots illuminated the racial divides during the 1940s, for “Pachucos” and their families, they left bitter memories of a country that had promised so much


Racist and jealous U.S. MILITARY PERSONNEL beat up ADOLESCENTS because they dared to walk around showered and wearing clean pressed clothes. Oh yeah let's emphasize the fact that the KIDS being beat up were MEXICANS not Cubans. The LAPD arrested the MEXICAN Adolescents!
Magadala

North Bend, WA

#35 Feb 10, 2013
Suadela wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right,I agree.
One thing I want to add.
It's all about Mexico to these Mexicans, but what is funny about the way they act,speak their language in public and force their ways upon us,,, is that many , many other groups of Hispanics out there have assimilated,learned the language and still( I say still) keep their culture/tradition/habits/relig ion etc. They know no one can take that away from them. There is no need to whip the flag out,play your music and scream at the top of ur lungs,"viva Mexico". They are not out there speaking Spanish in public,forcing their ways upon others.They are well aware that in order to progress they need to assimilate,learn the language/American way .They practice their Culture,etc. at home , in the privacy of their own home,,, not flaunting it around as if they are about to lose it!
This is what get's to me when it comes to the Mexican population,they have no respect for America,her ways,her language,,,, they only want the money/my money/your money.
mexicans are America's real terrorist! They are trying to overrun our country with their numbers and have tried to seize control of our government! As you know, in spite of at least 40% of mexicans being in US illegally, they want FULL representation of their numbers, and demand it from our government. They don't care about the state of the US, they just want us to give them what they want regardless of its impact on American citizens...11million green cards issued overnight on over 22 million umemployed! They are even circling the Lincoln Center because it hasn't give enough awards to hispanics...even though their music isn't popular in US!

I live in the Seattle area. A lot of hispanics live on the out skirts! They were trying to get redistricting so that there could be a greater representation of hispanics!!! They lost this time! Folks, wake up! The sad part is that they are trying to take over America, BUT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO REPLACE IT WITH!!!!

Try a congress full of Menendez who is beginning to show his full corruption, just like any other latin American politician! Free rides, pedophillia on staff, underaged teen sex...
Magadala

North Bend, WA

#36 Feb 10, 2013
Mayela wrote:
many in the military resented Zoot suiters because their dress placed them in direct defiance of the war boards rationing act, a law that forbade the use of excess garment material
press accounts favored the sailors, so did the police department
they would go around and arrest the Mexicans, and put them in jail for disturbing the peace
emboldened military personnel continued their rampage through Los Angeles for two more days
President Roosevelt ordered the Navy to control it’s sailors
It’s a misnomer to call the zoot suit riots, the zoot suit riots, because it was really a MILITARY riot
the servicemen would go and strip adolescents of their zoot suits, and they would beat the kids up
the riots illuminated the racial divides during the 1940s, for “Pachucos” and their families, they left bitter memories of a country that had promised so much
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =7S3LTMTcTowXX
Racist and jealous U.S. MILITARY PERSONNEL beat up ADOLESCENTS because they dared to walk around showered and wearing clean pressed clothes. Oh yeah let's emphasize the fact that the KIDS being beat up were MEXICANS not Cubans. The LAPD arrested the MEXICAN Adolescents!
I am trying to get your point! These "kids" were walking around in defiance of the WWII war effort by wearing excess fabric that could have been used elsewhere during the war?!!! Support for the war effort during WWII was different than today, we had patriotic Americans who were onboard with this effort! I can kinda understand the sailors who were in combat coming home and finding this defiant crap from a group, mexicans, who did not enter the war!!! What's your point?
Mayela

Atlanta, GA

#38 Feb 10, 2013
War on the Home Front
In spite of their military service, these veterans of Mexican origin were still denied service in restaurants, access to public facilities and even burial in veteran cemeteries. Sergeant Marcario García, one of the five Texan-Mexicans to receive the Medal of Honor was denied service at a Texas restaurant. The familiy of Félix Longoria, who was killed in the Philippines in the line of duty, was denied use of a funeral home for his wake because of his Mexican background. Yet returning veterans responded to these experiences by creating their own organizations to demand social justice. In 1948, World War II veteran Héctor García founded the American G.I. Forum dedicated to Mexican American World War II veterans. http://research.pomona.edu/zootsuit/en/zoot-s...

A steady non-stop racist, hostile and aggressive attack against individuals of Mexican ancestry has been ongoing for decades even centuries by now
Mayela

Atlanta, GA

#39 Feb 10, 2013
Mexican American Veterans
Furthermore, the film Hell to Eternity (1960) depicted the extraordinary accomplishments and valor of Guy Galbadon, who was credited with capturing 1500 Japanese soldiers and as a result, awarded the Navy Cross Medal (the highest decoration bestowed by the Department of the Navy and the second highest decoration given for valor). However, the movie failed to indicate that Galbadon was of Mexican descent, and adding insult to injury, he was “played by a blonde, blue eyed actor”(Acuña, 2007). It seems that without the contribution of Mexican American writers and scholars, the experiences of Mexican American veterans would almost be none existent.
http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/99-...
Mayela

Atlanta, GA

#40 Feb 10, 2013
it has been estimated that roughly between 300,000 to 5000,000 Mexican Americans fought in WWII (Gonzales, 1999; Navarro, 2005). Yet, Tom Brokaw’s book, The Greatest Generation (1998) and Ken Burns’ documentary, The War (2007) failed miserably in honoring the contributions of Mexican-Americans in WWII. For example, Brokaw’s book did not include a single account of the Mexican-American experience in WWII and Burns’ documentary contributed only a fraction of its time to honor Mexican-American WWII veterans. And the time that was allotted to honor these brave men was granted only because veterans, scholars, students, and community activists pressured Burns into doing so.
http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/99-...

The resentment, racism and hostility continues, so do the attempted lies of a conveniently twisted history.
Magadala

Vashon, WA

#41 Feb 10, 2013
Mayela wrote:
War on the Home Front
In spite of their military service, these veterans of Mexican origin were still denied service in restaurants, access to public facilities and even burial in veteran cemeteries. Sergeant Marcario García, one of the five Texan-Mexicans to receive the Medal of Honor was denied service at a Texas restaurant. The familiy of Félix Longoria, who was killed in the Philippines in the line of duty, was denied use of a funeral home for his wake because of his Mexican background. Yet returning veterans responded to these experiences by creating their own organizations to demand social justice. In 1948, World War II veteran Héctor García founded the American G.I. Forum dedicated to Mexican American World War II veterans. http://research.pomona.edu/zootsuit/en/zoot-s...
A steady non-stop racist, hostile and aggressive attack against individuals of Mexican ancestry has been ongoing for decades even centuries by now
You need to STFU!!! mexicans had a place to go to get better treatment, to feel equal, to have rights, to become DOMINANT and perpetuate their culture...BLACKS DIDN'T!!! I am so sick and tired of you guys playing the maytr role! Go back across the border and be happy! Most of your earnings go there anyway!

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