Immigrants fill aging void

Immigrants fill aging void

There are 56 comments on the Journalgazette.net story from Aug 25, 2014, titled Immigrants fill aging void. In it, Journalgazette.net reports that:

If not for the wave of immigration last decade, some Indiana metropolitan areas would not have grown and others would have seen greater population losses, according to a recent study.

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“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#22 Aug 31, 2014
Cricket 23 wrote:
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This little "Bitch" spent 2 tours in Vietnam and Thailand! lol.

23rd TASS

http://aircommandoman.tripod.com/id18.html

And you're still a dummy!
That goes for "Fixit" to.

Since: Jun 14

Bethlehem, PA

#23 Aug 31, 2014
Cricket 23 wrote:
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This little "Bitch" spent 2 tours in Vietnam and Thailand! lol.
23rd TASS
http://aircommandoman.tripod.com/id18.html
Respects to you then

Since: Jun 14

Bethlehem, PA

#24 Aug 31, 2014
Cricket 23 wrote:
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That goes for "Fixit" to.
You should have left the anger there

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#25 Sep 1, 2014
blade007 wrote:
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Respects to you then
Noted.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#26 Sep 1, 2014
blade007 wrote:
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You should have left the anger there
Notd.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#27 Sep 1, 2014
Noted.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#28 Sep 3, 2014
blade007 wrote:
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I am registered unlike most on here and I am not afraid to say shit. You know that so this two account thing makes no sense. Typical repig response, all smoke and mirrors and avoids the topic. Well done stumpy, cricket term in case you didn't know
You support registration with Topix yet you oppose the registration of foreign nationals who enter the country. I am glad to see you realize that what you say is nothing but shit.

Since: Jun 14

Bethlehem, PA

#29 Sep 3, 2014
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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You support registration with Topix yet you oppose the registration of foreign nationals who enter the country. I am glad to see you realize that what you say is nothing but @#!*%.
Don't get your panties in a bunch! I am registered cause I am not afraid to shay what I want. Where did I say I support people not registering in this country, WHERE?
Stop pulling crap out of your BUTT!. I am all for those here coming out of the shadows and making a contribution to this economy that aren't already. Stop making shit up to fit your opinions and views
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#30 Sep 3, 2014
blade007 wrote:
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Don't get your panties in a bunch! I am registered cause I am not afraid to shay what I want. Where did I say I support people not registering in this country, WHERE?
Stop pulling crap out of your BUTT!. I am all for those here coming out of the shadows and making a contribution to this economy that aren't already. Stop making shit up to fit your opinions and views
Your opinion as you just stated is that those who are here illegally should be allowed to "come out of the shadows". There is only three ways to come out of the shadows for an illegal alien
1. To be arrested and deported.
2. To leave the country on their own.
3. To be granted amnesty and be allowed to remain as a reward for not registering as required.

Since: Jun 14

Bethlehem, PA

#31 Sep 3, 2014
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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Your opinion as you just stated is that those who are here illegally should be allowed to "come out of the shadows". There is only three ways to come out of the shadows for an illegal alien
1. To be arrested and deported.
2. To leave the country on their own.
3. To be granted amnesty and be allowed to remain as a reward for not registering as required.
See you throw around the amnesty word without care. If they have to pay a fine and back taxes and undergo a background check how is that amnesty? It's called paying your dues to get right with the law. Those that are coming here legally they don't pay a fine or back taxes. Of course some dummy is going to come and dispute that fact.
There is a 4th way, fix the broken existing laws.
You can get off your high horse as those 11 million people are not going to get up and leave. The people in power know they cannot deport them no matter how hard you cry for it. So what can you do about it. Write your congressman. Unless you have deep pockets they will not give you the time of day. Are you going to start kicking in doors and dragging people to the border? Lets see where that gets you. In jail or shot, your choice. Also, how can you tell who is here illegally? We had a congress man address a citizen recently and call her an illegal only to be corrected. Not so easy is it?
The republicans only bark about doing a piece meal bill but they have yet to start. Boner said yesterday that maybe next year. Never going to happen. He has been saying that for years and the extreme left will never allow it. The smallest part of your part by the way. Boner is lucky to hold on to his speakership next year as well as Mitch.
They simply do not know what to do and would rather kick it down the road. This is the problem we have with both parties. One was elected on their mandate to get their agenda done and the other is just about opposing but not giving an alternative as to what they would do.
Lets just say for one moment that you are right and we should find and deport all of them. I guarantee it will never happen. Why? Its because NO ONE WORKS FOR YOU!!!!! Let that sink in for a moment.
For this country to progress, we need to have limited terms for those old cronies and get fresh blood in the house and senate.
ronnie

Salt Lake City, UT

#32 Sep 3, 2014
blade007 wrote:
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See you throw around the amnesty word without care. If they have to pay a fine and back taxes and undergo a background check how is that amnesty? It's called paying your dues to get right with the law. Those that are coming here legally they don't pay a fine or back taxes. Of course some dummy is going to come and dispute that fact.
There is a 4th way, fix the broken existing laws.
You can get off your high horse as those 11 million people are not going to get up and leave. The people in power know they cannot deport them no matter how hard you cry for it. So what can you do about it. Write your congressman. Unless you have deep pockets they will not give you the time of day. Are you going to start kicking in doors and dragging people to the border? Lets see where that gets you. In jail or shot, your choice. Also, how can you tell who is here illegally? We had a congress man address a citizen recently and call her an illegal only to be corrected. Not so easy is it?
The republicans only bark about doing a piece meal bill but they have yet to start. Boner said yesterday that maybe next year. Never going to happen. He has been saying that for years and the extreme left will never allow it. The smallest part of your part by the way. Boner is lucky to hold on to his speakership next year as well as Mitch.
They simply do not know what to do and would rather kick it down the road. This is the problem we have with both parties. One was elected on their mandate to get their agenda done and the other is just about opposing but not giving an alternative as to what they would do.
Lets just say for one moment that you are right and we should find and deport all of them. I guarantee it will never happen. Why? Its because NO ONE WORKS FOR YOU!!!!! Let that sink in for a moment.
For this country to progress, we need to have limited terms for those old cronies and get fresh blood in the house and senate.
Illegals won't pat chit. They came here to take only. They're leeching interlopers that Americans are sickened by them. Now with the no regulation idiot in DC, we are no longer Sovereign, nor safe. 60 thousand Nationals overstayed Student Visa's, and 6500 of them are not even verified to there whereabouts. We have no leadership. No law enforcement agency in charge here. We've been sold down the illegal rivers. Hope they get what they deserve.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#33 Sep 4, 2014
blade007 wrote:
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See you throw around the amnesty word without care. If they have to pay a fine and back taxes and undergo a background check how is that amnesty? It's called paying your dues to get right with the law. Those that are coming here legally they don't pay a fine or back taxes. Of course some dummy is going to come and dispute that fact.
There is a 4th way, fix the broken existing laws.
You can get off your high horse as those 11 million people are not going to get up and leave. The people in power know they cannot deport them no matter how hard you cry for it. So what can you do about it. Write your congressman. Unless you have deep pockets they will not give you the time of day. Are you going to start kicking in doors and dragging people to the border? Lets see where that gets you. In jail or shot, your choice. Also, how can you tell who is here illegally? We had a congress man address a citizen recently and call her an illegal only to be corrected. Not so easy is it?
The republicans only bark about doing a piece meal bill but they have yet to start. Boner said yesterday that maybe next year. Never going to happen. He has been saying that for years and the extreme left will never allow it. The smallest part of your part by the way. Boner is lucky to hold on to his speakership next year as well as Mitch.
They simply do not know what to do and would rather kick it down the road. This is the problem we have with both parties. One was elected on their mandate to get their agenda done and the other is just about opposing but not giving an alternative as to what they would do.
Lets just say for one moment that you are right and we should find and deport all of them. I guarantee it will never happen. Why? Its because NO ONE WORKS FOR YOU!!!!! Let that sink in for a moment.
For this country to progress, we need to have limited terms for those old cronies and get fresh blood in the house and senate.
Anything that allows them to correct their status without returning to their countries and applying to come here legally just like legal immigrants do IS amnesty.

They will leave on their own accord if we remove the incentives for them to remain here such as jobs and benefits. No way should we reward lawbreakers who violated our immigration laws by allowing them to remain here with stupid penalties that they won't adhere to and won't be enforced anyway.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#34 Sep 4, 2014
blade007 wrote:
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See you throw around the amnesty word without care. If they have to pay a fine and back taxes and undergo a background check how is that amnesty?.
Since you obviously do not understand the definition of the word amnesty

Amnesty

noun, plural amnesties.
1. a general pardon for offenses, especially political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction.

2. Law. an act of forgiveness for past offenses, especially to a class of persons as a whole.

3.a forgetting or overlooking of any past offense.
verb (used with object), amnestied, amnestying.

4.to grant amnesty to; pardon.

Nowhere in the definition of amnesty does it say that paying the administrative costs associated with registering as an immigrant makes the pardoning of a crime or crimes not amnesty. Since as you said a background check, which is difficult to impossible to do when a person has spent years hiding their identity and using false I.D., needs to be done as well as registration.It will cost thousands and in some cases tens of thousands of dollars per person just to perform the checks and registration process..There are also provisions for waiving the fees so many if not most illegal aliens will not pay even the cost of processing their applications let alone. Of course history suggests, based on the previous amnesties that most applications will be rubber stamped with no background checks or even verification of I.D.
When the local, state or federal government announces that those who have not paid taxes will be allowed to pay then without paying fines or jail it is referred to as tax amnesty therefore allowing illegal aliens to pay back taxes without a penalty or prison time is amnesty.
In fact the current amnesty bill does not require illegal aliens to pay back taxes. It only requires them to settle any outstanding debts with the IRS.

It seems that like most amnesty supporters you have no clue what the current "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" is actually about.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#35 Sep 4, 2014
As for the fine or "penalty" the current version of the Senate immigration bill requires illegal immigrants to pay $500 for the initial probationary legal status and another fine of $500 six years later. If a person wants to switch from this provisional legal status to green card status (and eventual US citizenship), he or she will have to pay a $1,000 fine many years down the road. But there are many exceptions.

Since: Jun 14

Bethlehem, PA

#36 Sep 4, 2014
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
As for the fine or "penalty" the current version of the Senate immigration bill requires illegal immigrants to pay $500 for the initial probationary legal status and another fine of $500 six years later. If a person wants to switch from this provisional legal status to green card status (and eventual US citizenship), he or she will have to pay a $1,000 fine many years down the road. But there are many exceptions.
Still a fine! Nowhere in your definition did I see a fine. Once again not amnesty. If they drop the fine part then it is and no one has said a word against the fine

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#38 Sep 4, 2014
blade007 wrote:
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Still a fine! Nowhere in your definition did I see a fine. Once again not amnesty. If they drop the fine part then it is and no one has said a word against the fine
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"Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak".
Smash

Hockessin, DE

#39 Sep 5, 2014
Cricket 23 wrote:
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"Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak".
Kinda like all of your posts on here!
The entire GOP never says it for what it is just what suits them
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#40 Sep 5, 2014
blade007 wrote:
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Still a fine! Nowhere in your definition did I see a fine. Once again not amnesty. If they drop the fine part then it is and no one has said a word against the fine
Actually if you read the bill there is no fine for those who would be granted amnesty the fee as it is refereed to in the bill is to be set by the secretary of the DHS to cover the cost of processing. The fee can be waived if for example the applicant is on government assistance.
Look up the definition of fee and fine. They are not the same thing.
Also as in prior amnesties DHS is not allowed to share information with the IRS and those who employ illegal aliens do not have to pay back FICA taxes for illegal aliens that they employed prior to amnesty so it is also amnesty for those who employ illegal aliens as well as the illegal aliens.

Since: Jun 14

Bethlehem, PA

#41 Sep 5, 2014
Cricket 23 wrote:
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"Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak".
Kind of like you, especially with the cricket chirping

Since: Jun 14

Bethlehem, PA

#42 Sep 5, 2014
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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Actually if you read the bill there is no fine for those who would be granted amnesty the fee as it is refereed to in the bill is to be set by the secretary of the DHS to cover the cost of processing. The fee can be waived if for example the applicant is on government assistance.
Look up the definition of fee and fine. They are not the same thing.
Also as in prior amnesties DHS is not allowed to share information with the IRS and those who employ illegal aliens do not have to pay back FICA taxes for illegal aliens that they employed prior to amnesty so it is also amnesty for those who employ illegal aliens as well as the illegal aliens.
So check out the 49 minute mark of this.

Your horse says it clearly. They wrote the bill. It's not amnesty if you are paying for it. However you are not the only one. You all call it something it clearly is not. Your congress is not going to deport them so you bunch should start.

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