Dreamers' struggle

Dreamers' struggle

There are 23 comments on the Boulder Weekly story from Jan 16, 2014, titled Dreamers' struggle. In it, Boulder Weekly reports that:

When Victor Galvan's parents brought him over to the United States from Mexico, he was just 8 months old.

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wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Jan 16, 2014
I dont geel bad, get out, blame yourself and your parents.
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Las Vegas, NV

#2 Jan 16, 2014
"His parents are undocumented immigrants who hailed from Chihuahua, Mexico, but Galván, who speaks perfect English, grew up in the United States. In practically every sense, he’s American."

His parents are illegal aliens of which he is too. His illegal alien parents have no allegiance to the United States and he has none being a citizen of another country.

"In practically every sense, he’s American" except he's not. There's a little matter of his citizenship to another country. Plus divided loyalties, culture and customs of his country his illegal alien parents taught him. He sure didn't learn how to become a American from his parents, he just parroted what he saw on tv.

We have a Houseboy who worked in my shop on Clark AB in the Philippines. He spoke perfect English but never been out of the Philippines, should we make him a US citizen too?

These Mexican illegal aliens are raised by Mexicans and the only thing American about them is that they are on this side of the border. 85% of students in California's English as a second language classes are US born.

Stop watching Spanish tv, radio and speaking Spanish until you hit school age. Most of these kids don't even know that they are in America.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But
it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear."
― Marcus Tullius Cicero
Magadala

Vashon, WA

#3 Jan 18, 2014
'member when they said they were the best and the brightest? Whatever happened to the true American spirit of working and saving to get your degree?!! It took my son seven years to graduate with the GI Bill, working a full time job at night and going to school during the day!!! He's an 8th generation American!
Magadala

Vashon, WA

#4 Jan 18, 2014
spytheweb wrote:
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― Marcus Tullius Cicero
We have a Houseboy who worked in my shop on Clark AB in the Philippines. He spoke perfect English but never been out of the Philippines, should we make him a US citizen too?]

Thanks for mentioning this. One of my pet peeves is the internet "help" lines that link Americans to India and the Philippines for assistance. Of course, I am an American who is FULLY aware of the fact that no one cares, but these foreigners, Phillipinos and East Indians, may SPEAK English, they don't understand American. Contrast dealing with Microsoft help, and Land's End in WI!!!! Land's End is friendly, easy, efficient, saves time, cheery Americans...others, "So you say you have a problem with your blah, blah? NO! All I want to know is how to adjust and change my blee blee!!! Hold for just a moment while I research your problem...and this is where I yobs went!
Level 5

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#5 Jan 18, 2014
Magadala wrote:
<quoted text>We have a Houseboy who worked in my shop on Clark AB in the Philippines. He spoke perfect English but never been out of the Philippines, should we make him a US citizen too?]
Thanks for mentioning this. One of my pet peeves is the internet "help" lines that link Americans to India and the Philippines for assistance. Of course, I am an American who is FULLY aware of the fact that no one cares, but these foreigners, Phillipinos and East Indians, may SPEAK English, they don't understand American. Contrast dealing with Microsoft help, and Land's End in WI!!!! Land's End is friendly, easy, efficient, saves time, cheery Americans...others, "So you say you have a problem with your blah, blah? NO! All I want to know is how to adjust and change my blee blee!!! Hold for just a moment while I research your problem...and this is where I yobs went!
So true! When I call customer service and if I get someone in another country who has difficulty understanding my request, I ask to be switched to someone in the US. Most all companies still maintain call centers here, but you have to ask to be switched.
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Las Vegas, NV

#6 Jan 18, 2014
"he speaks in accents familiar to his victims"- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Meaning, they speak your language perfectly but they are not one of you.
Anonymous

Portland, OR

#7 Jan 19, 2014
spytheweb? how so? i stumbled across some of these Dreamers at the current university i'm studying, who are you to say these things?
Zanoni_002

Oakland, CA

#8 Jan 19, 2014
OneRepublic wrote:
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So true! When I call customer service and if I get someone in another country who has difficulty understanding my request, I ask to be switched to someone in the US. Most all companies still maintain call centers here, but you have to ask to be switched.
Have you noticed your grammar? It sucks.

It's possible they were speaking correct English, you're the dumb one.
Zanoni_002

Oakland, CA

#9 Jan 19, 2014
Damn! The nerves of these dumb white people!
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#10 Jan 19, 2014
Zanoni_002 wrote:
Damn! The nerves of these dumb white people!
Guess that includes your white Spanish ancestors and their descendants then, wouldn't it? Oh, that would be you!
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Las Vegas, NV

#12 Jan 20, 2014
Ignorant_Mexican wrote:
spytheweb? how so? i stumbled across some of these Dreamers at the current university i'm studying, who are you to say these things?
Where does your loyalty lie? If you are not a US citizen then you don't have to answer, it's not with us.

Who am i? I'am a god damn American!!!
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Las Vegas, NV

#13 Jan 20, 2014
Zanoni_002 wrote:
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Have you noticed your grammar? It sucks.
It's possible they were speaking correct English, you're the dumb one.
We all heard it before, foreigners work harder, they speak perfect English and they all go to college. Tell me then, why do their countries suck? Why are they here?
Level 6

Since: Apr 10

Las Vegas, NV

#14 Jan 20, 2014
Zanoni_002 wrote:
Damn! The nerves of these dumb white people!
Mexicans have white envy.

"Mexicans abhor education. In their country, illiteracy dominates. As they arrive in our country, only 9.6 percent of fourth generation Mexicans earn a high school diploma. Mexico does not promote educational values. This makes them the least educated of any Americans or immigrants. The rate of illiteracy in Mexico stands at 63 percent."

http://www.rense.com/general75/amamex.htm
lolol

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Jan 20, 2014
struggle ? only struggle I see is the illegal foodstampers weighing 300+ lbs waddling to the register pushing their cart full of soda and chips followed by their fat brood of dreamers struggling to get cash back from their ebt cards so they can hit the seven-11 for their lottery tickets and 30pack of cerveza. Other than that I don't see much struggling.
Level 5

Since: Oct 10

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#16 Jan 20, 2014
Zanoni_002 wrote:
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Have you noticed your grammar? It sucks.
It's possible they were speaking correct English, you're the dumb one.
What a stupid post, of course you are so off the mark. This is the typical liberal whining rant, if you have nothing substantive to state, you misdirect with off-the-mark comments. Of course these call center employees were speaking English, but when their communication skills are lacking (as are yours, obviously), I ask to be transferred to someone who can understand my request. Who do you turn to, the "Dumb and Dumber" line?
Level 5

Since: Oct 10

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#17 Jan 20, 2014
spytheweb wrote:
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Mexicans have white envy.
"Mexicans abhor education. In their country, illiteracy dominates. As they arrive in our country, only 9.6 percent of fourth generation Mexicans earn a high school diploma. Mexico does not promote educational values. This makes them the least educated of any Americans or immigrants. The rate of illiteracy in Mexico stands at 63 percent."
http://www.rense.com/general75/amamex.htm
Unfortunately for poor Mexicans, free education ends at the 6th grade, any further than that, the families have to pay, which is why this country is so enticing to them, they see that our kids are educated from pre-K to 12th grade. What they don't understand is that our tax dollars pay for this, since Mexico doesn't have the same taxation system as we do, the property taxes collected in their communities are squandered and not directed properly. We complain about how much we pay in taxes, but the alternative is Mexico, where neither the middle class or the wealthy pay their fair share. As long as they have enough cash to pay off whatever local official is collecting, they are safe.

I hate to generalize, but reading isn't really a fond past-time for many Mexicans, they'd rather watch novellas or socialize, listen to music and sing, than sit in a quiet room and contemplate. I've spent a lot of time in Mexico, and finding something to read in a relative's house isn't easy, unless its comic books or fashion mags. Not everyone is like that, obviously, but enough to contribute to the illiteracy rate.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#18 Jan 20, 2014
OneRepublic wrote:
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Unfortunately for poor Mexicans, free education ends at the 6th grade, any further than that, the families have to pay, which is why this country is so enticing to them, they see that our kids are educated from pre-K to 12th grade. What they don't understand is that our tax dollars pay for this, since Mexico doesn't have the same taxation system as we do, the property taxes collected in their communities are squandered and not directed properly. We complain about how much we pay in taxes, but the alternative is Mexico, where neither the middle class or the wealthy pay their fair share. As long as they have enough cash to pay off whatever local official is collecting, they are safe.
I hate to generalize, but reading isn't really a fond past-time for many Mexicans, they'd rather watch novellas or socialize, listen to music and sing, than sit in a quiet room and contemplate. I've spent a lot of time in Mexico, and finding something to read in a relative's house isn't easy, unless its comic books or fashion mags. Not everyone is like that, obviously, but enough to contribute to the illiteracy rate.
Sadly this is the "diversity" that Americans are supposed to accept. If we do not we are "racist". For generations immigrants have come here to get away from corruption, crime and ignorance but now we are being told that Americans should embrace these things as part of "cultural diversity".
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#19 Jan 20, 2014
Zanoni_002 wrote:
Damn! The nerves of these dumb white people!
you wish you were white.
angel

Riga, Latvia

#20 Jan 20, 2014
robotic 50 cal in turrets at the border.
Level 5

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#21 Jan 20, 2014
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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Sadly this is the "diversity" that Americans are supposed to accept. If we do not we are "racist". For generations immigrants have come here to get away from corruption, crime and ignorance but now we are being told that Americans should embrace these things as part of "cultural diversity".
Yeah, schools used to focus on American culture, values, and ethics. Unfortunately in the quest for 'cultural diversity' that has all been lost. Kids aren't taught to be proud of our country, but rather to feel shame about our history and to atone for whatever damage we might have caused. I've had to counter the teachings that my kids have learned over the years, by providing them with information that's more balanced.

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