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May 27, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Bloomberg

One more hurdle is cleared. The U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee gave its approval last week to comprehensive immigration legislation.

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Killing immigration reform bill at this crucial juncture of this critical issue will be tantmount of committing political suicide to oneself.
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"Meanwhile, in the House, Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte complained that the Senate bill wouldn’t secure the border. We have previously written on the impossibility of attaining anything close to perfect security in a nation with 7,000 miles of land boundary and 95,000 miles of shoreline. Yet for some conservatives the notion has become close to an obsession, all but impervious to facts on the ground."

Just enact E-Verfiy 100%. Even if this bill dies there should be a federal EV bill nationwide.
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Killing immigration reform bill at this crucial juncture of this critical issue will be tantmount of committing political suicide to oneself.
what will passing it mean for the GOP?moron

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They would much better serve this country if they were to drop this garbage can of a bill, and work on enacting smaller parts of it to stop the further influx of low-skilled, uneducated people who will eventually become dependent on our entitlement system. Making them legal will not change them into major money makers and big tax contributors. As a matter of fact, they will probably be put in the unemployment line with those Americans that they undercut out of jobs, when the next crush of illegals rush in. This action will certainly not ensure that they will give the GOP a second thought. Don't give in to the insanity. Drop it.

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Reality Check wrote:
Killing immigration reform bill at this crucial juncture of this critical issue will be tantmount of committing political suicide to oneself.
Keep dreaming!

LOL!!!

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They would much better serve this country if they were to drop this garbage can of a bill, and work on enacting smaller parts of it to stop the further influx of low-skilled, uneducated people who will eventually become dependent on our entitlement system.

Making them legal will not change them into major money makers and big tax contributors. As a matter of fact, they will probably be put in the unemployment line with those Americans that they undercut out of jobs, when the next crush of illegals rush in.

This action will certainly not ensure that they will give the GOP a second thought. Don't give in to the insanity. Drop it.
1965 Immigration act, Quote:

Among those who more accurately foresaw the future effects of the change in immigration law was a certain Myra C. Hacker, Vice President of the New Jersey Coalition, who testified at a Senate immigration subcommittee hearing:

"In light of our 5 percent unemployment rate, our worries over the so called population explosion, and our menacingly mounting welfare costs, are we prepared to embrace so great a horde of the world's unfortunates? At the very least, the hidden mathematics of the bill should be made clear to the public so that they may tell their Congressmen how they feel about providing jobs, schools, homes, security against want, citizen education, and a brotherly welcome ... for an indeterminately enormous number of aliens from underprivileged lands."

"We should remember that people accustomed to such marginal existence in their own land will tend to live fully here, to hoard our bounteous minimum wages and our humanitarian welfare handouts ... lower our wage and living standards, disrupt our cultural patterns ..."

"Whatever may be our benevolent intent toward many people,[the bill] fails to give due consideration to the economic needs, the cultural traditions, and the public sentiment of the citizens of the United States." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 681-687.)

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Hart-Celler Act hearings 1965 Quote:

Senate immigration subcommittee chairman Edward Kennedy (D-MA.) reassured his colleagues and the nation with the following:

"First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset ... Contrary to the charges in some quarters,[the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia ... In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think."

Sen. Kennedy concluded by saying,

"The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 1-3.)
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Some Republicans actually think passing an amnesty bill will help them in the voting booth. Three out of four illegal aliens will vote for any Democrat if given the chance. That means that for every one vote the Republicans gain the Democrats will gain three. It takes a special kind of idiot, McCain, to think that will benefit Republicans.
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<quoted text> what will passing it mean for the GOP?moron
I do believe that if the dinosaurs could have done something to save themselves from extinction they surely would have done so.
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I do believe that if the dinosaurs could have done something to save themselves from extinction they surely would have done so.
I would much rather die in a fight than to commit suicide and im sure republicans agree
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<quoted text> I would much rather die in a fight than to commit suicide and im sure republicans agree
Didn't had to mention that it is obvious, looking at the whole big world through a tunnel vision what else can one expect to see.
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Hart-Celler Act hearings 1965 Quote:
Senate immigration subcommittee chairman Edward Kennedy (D-MA.) reassured his colleagues and the nation with the following:
"First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset ... Contrary to the charges in some quarters,[the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia ... In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think."
Sen. Kennedy concluded by saying,
"The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 1-3.)
I'd like to dig up that drunken, lying snake as slap him square across the face for starting the unnatural transformation of our country in this manner. He knew it before he died also but didn't give a damn.
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Didn't had to mention that it is obvious, looking at the whole big world through a tunnel vision what else can one expect to see.
You're going to be extremely disappointed in the coming months and future elections
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<quoted text>You're going to be extremely disappointed in the coming months and future elections
Oh no! not at all I would not be surprised if the GOP take back the White House and holds on to congress in the coming elections as a result of immigration reform after all the Hispanic block has always been strong supporters of the GOP before this illegal immigration squabbling.

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( CNSNews.com )- When former Florida House Speaker Marco Rubio was running for the Senate in 2010--as a conservative candidate backed by the Tea Party movement--he insisted that illegal aliens inside the United States would need to go home and that giving illegal aliens "an earned path to citizenship," such as his opponent Gov. Charlie Crist, former President George W. Bush and Sen. John McCain had advocated, was nothing more than a "code for amnesty."

Rubio, who won that 2010 election, is now the leading Republican in the U.S. Congress pushing for illegal aliens to be given the earned path to citizenship that he himself insisted was "code for amnesty" only three years ago.

- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/candidate-mar...
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Oh no! not at all I would not be surprised if the GOP take back the White House and holds on to congress in the coming elections as a result of immigration reform after all the Hispanic block has always been strong supporters of the GOP before this illegal immigration squabbling.
I think you need to Check obamas votes by race. Whites provided the majority of obamas votes.Get of your pony and realize that hispanics only made the small difference
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The past three years have proven that a big portion of the House Republican conference are willing to defy both popular opinion and political pressure in service of ideology and self-preservation.

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There really isn't much Republicans do for citizens any more. They talk about lowering taxes but mine still go up. They talk about cutting spending and that has been a total failure. One of the only things I see them succeeding at is stopping amnesty and wanting our laws to be enforced. I really hope they don't sell out on that. Granting amnesty would hurt Republicans on many levels. It would totally destroy any support I have for them.
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Gmc Jimmy wrote:
The past three years have proven that a big portion of the House Republican conference are willing to defy both popular opinion and political pressure in service of ideology and self-preservation.
Since this forum is about illegal immigration I can only surmise that you think they have lost ground with the voters over their advocacy for the enforcement of our immigration laws rather than rewarding them for breaking them, you couldn't be more wrong. The majority of our citizens want our immigration laws enforced.

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"Meanwhile, in the House, Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte complained that the Senate bill wouldn’t secure the border. We have previously written on the impossibility of attaining anything close to perfect security in a nation with 7,000 miles of land boundary and 95,000 miles of shoreline. Yet for some conservatives the notion has become close to an obsession, all but impervious to facts on the ground."
Just enact E-Verfiy 100%. Even if this bill dies there should be a federal EV bill nationwide.
there is also something being pushed i heard. something to do with hold all to the promises made in 86.enforcing our laws as is and adding e-verify would solve the whole problem.folks would stop helping and hiring illegal aliens do to wanting to stay out of jail.

use the law a few times to its max and see how many start running away from illegals.

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