Latino organizations push comprehensi...

Latino organizations push comprehensive immigration reform

There are 27 comments on the The Press-Enterprise story from Dec 11, 2012, titled Latino organizations push comprehensive immigration reform. In it, The Press-Enterprise reports that:

Eight of the nation's largest Latino organizations are gathering in Washington, D.C., Wednesday to issue a joint call for Congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship.

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Hope

Shrewsbury, MA

#1 Dec 12, 2012
Nothing is impossible when you have
God by your side....
You can believe it.....
Thanks....

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Level 8

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#2 Dec 12, 2012
LOL!!!

Open Letter to John Gibson,Sean Hannity Jorge Ramos, John Boehner,Luis V. Gutierrez,Lindsey Graham &
Susan Collins

11/9/2012

The gentleman & Lady I've listed above are advocating amnesty for the 12-20 million (wag) illegal aliens in our country . I strongly disagree with their position for the following reasons.

In 1986 President Reagan signed off on a bill granting amnesty to 1 1/2- 2 Million illegal aliens, today I wonder how many thousands more of their family members are here now because of the current Chain Immigration policy in place?

In the past 26 years since President Reagan signed that bill, because of politicians from both parties like Congressman John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez ,Senator Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins who have none nothing to help control both of our borders, except to stick their finger in the dike to appease the voters at home and not offend special interest groups ,12-20 Million more illegal aliens (wag) have entered our country and now because the finger caper didn't work, their solution to the problem is amnesty.

The message that people like John Gibson, Sean Hannity , Jorge Ramos, John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez,Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins are sending to immigrants around the world is that if you can enter our country illegally without getting caught and hide out for another 26 years, then sooner or later another amnesty will be granted.

Case in point, a large number of American Hispanic voters including Chicago Congressman Luis V Gutierrez & Jorge Ramos have again rally their support for amnesty, and are using their vote to blackmail the Democrats into granting it. My question is what are those Hispanic Americans basing their support on?

My answer is it's based on the fact that a large number of the illegal aliens are also Hispanics which would appear to make their support based on race.( Google some of Chicago Congressman Luis V Gutierrez's & Jorge Ramos comments on the subject).

Now if I say I don't support amnesty because it's wrong then those same people yell I'm a "Racist".

We currently have no control of illegal immigration into our country, yet continue to allow in around 900,000 legal immigrations a year, and now John Gibson,Sean Hannity Jorge Ramos, John Boehner, Luis V. Gutierrez, Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins want to add 12-20 Million illegal aliens (wag) to our population (315 Million), which doesn't include the millions more of their family members that will come here legally under the chain migration policy...

My question to John Gibson, Sean Hannity, Jorge Ramos, John Boehner , Luis V. Gutierrez, Lindsey Graham & Susan Collins that support amnesty is how many more immigrants will our country hold, and how many more legal & illegal ones entering our country will make you happy?

Just because you can walk across our borders or swim / wade across a river doesn't give someone a place at the head of the line here. The line for those people starts inside the border of their own country.

To compound the problem, under the 14 Amendment we have around 300,00 new American Citizens a year who are born in our country to illegal Hispanic women, and yes John, Sean, Jorge, John B., Luis, Lindsey & Susan a lot of them walk or swim/ wade across our borders just to have those new American babies..

My closing comment is granting amnesty to millions of illegal aliens is not fair to immigrants waiting in their own country to enter here the legal way and violating our immigration laws should not be rewarded with American Citizenship, it's worth more than that!

The inscription at the base of the Statute of Liberty concludes, "I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" It says nothing about welcoming people who bypass our entry doors by climbing walls, swimming rivers and sneaking under border fences.

Dave

Since: Jul 11

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#3 Dec 12, 2012
Hope wrote:
Nothing is impossible when you have
God by your side....
You can believe it.....
Thanks....
remember what god also said: I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#4 Dec 12, 2012
Andysdad wrote:
<quoted text>remember what god also said: I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.
Thanks for clearing up the Bible's position on stealing sheep.

Here are a couple of verses on immigration.

Leviticus 19:33-34
“When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

Exodus 22:21

“You shall not wrong a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt."

Matthew 25:35 ESV

"For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me."

Somehow I get the feeling you will quickly dismiss the Bible.

Since: Jul 11

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#5 Dec 12, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for clearing up the Bible's position on stealing sheep.
Here are a couple of verses on immigration.
Leviticus 19:33-34
“When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Exodus 22:21
“You shall not wrong a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt."
Matthew 25:35 ESV
"For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me."
Somehow I get the feeling you will quickly dismiss the Bible.
Matthew 22 and Romans 13 make it pretty clear that we are not to violate the laws that govern our society.
In Luke 20:25, the phrase, "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's" is attributed to Jesus. He was talking about tax law; the quote is used as an example of how Christians should submit to secular authority.
Romans 13:1-7 states:“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist

Since: Jul 11

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#6 Dec 12, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for clearing up the Bible's position on stealing sheep.
Here are a couple of verses on immigration.
Leviticus 19:33-34
“When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Exodus 22:21
“You shall not wrong a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt."
Matthew 25:35 ESV
"For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me."
Somehow I get the feeling you will quickly dismiss the Bible.
Borders and border control is a common concept in the Old Testament. Like Chylloh said "you should read" and study it, Genesis, Exodus, Deuteromony, it's scattered all through the Old Testament. You can read about God's stipulations for border boundaries for the Israelite tribes in Numbers, Joshua and Kings.

In their journey to the Promised Land, the Israelites had to cross the borders of several nations. Numbers 20 records the course of action that they took when they approached the borders of Edom: "Now Moses sent messengers from Kadesh to the king of Edom. "Thus says your brother Israel:… Please let us pass through your country. We will not pass through fields or vineyards, nor will we drink water from wells; we will go along the King’s Highway; we will not turn aside to the right hand or to the left until we have passed through your territory. We will go by the Highway, and if I or my livestock drink any of your water, then I will pay for it; let me only pass through on foot, nothing more".

Moses and the Israelites recognized Edom’s right to control its borders. So they sent ambassadors to inform the King of Edom that they were ready to submit to certain conditions in order to receive the necessary authorization.

Also read the story of Joseph. He had the
legal authority to require “documentation” or proof
of identification to allow his brothers to do business
in the country. After Joseph finally revealed himself to his brothers, Jacob’s family was welcomed to immigrate to Egypt only after they had received the necessary authorization from Joseph
and Pharaoh.

Since: Jul 11

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#7 Dec 12, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for clearing up the Bible's position on stealing sheep.
Here are a couple of verses on immigration.
Leviticus 19:33-34
“When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Exodus 22:21
“You shall not wrong a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt."
Matthew 25:35 ESV
"For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me."
Somehow I get the feeling you will quickly dismiss the Bible.
Romans 13: 1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

1 Peter 2: 13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake, whether to the king as supreme, 14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#8 Dec 12, 2012
Andysdad wrote:
<quoted text>Matthew 22 and Romans 13 make it pretty clear that we are not to violate the laws that govern our society.
In Luke 20:25, the phrase, "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's" is attributed to Jesus. He was talking about tax law; the quote is used as an example of how Christians should submit to secular authority.
Romans 13:1-7 states:“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist
Thanks for clearing up the Bible's position on taxes.

What's next? Traffic violations?

Level 1

Since: Jan 12

Granbury, TX

#11 Dec 13, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for clearing up the Bible's position on stealing sheep.
Here are a couple of verses on immigration.
Leviticus 19:33-34hypocritical
“When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Exodus 22:21
“You shall not wrong a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt."
Matthew 25:35 ESV
"For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me."
Somehow I get the feeling you will quickly dismiss the Bible.
Who cares about the bible? When our countries values are shamelessly abused in our faces?gay marriage, really until our countries morals are in line we cannot judge anyone , except those who flagrantly break the laws that Obama refuses to enforce at the expense of American taxpayers!
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#12 Dec 13, 2012
TLCLeebo wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares about the bible? When our countries values are shamelessly abused in our faces?gay marriage, really until our countries morals are in line we cannot judge anyone , except those who flagrantly break the laws that Obama refuses to enforce at the expense of American taxpayers!
Why are you saying this to me? I'm not the one who keeps misusing the Bible to try to justify their position.

Do you know what the biggest threat to the country is? It is the large number of people who receive their information and take their marching orders from foreigners.

A fine example is your claim that Obama "refuses" to enforce laws. If you ever checked out American owned news sources then you would know that immigration laws have never been so tightly enforced, deportations are at record levels and illegal immigration is now tracked in negative numbers since more people are leaving the country then entering it.

Since: Jul 11

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#13 Dec 13, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you saying this to me? I'm not the one who keeps misusing the Bible to try to justify their position.
Do you know what the biggest threat to the country is? It is the large number of people who receive their information and take their marching orders from foreigners.
A fine example is your claim that Obama "refuses" to enforce laws. If you ever checked out American owned news sources then you would know that immigration laws have never been so tightly enforced, deportations are at record levels and illegal immigration is now tracked in negative numbers since more people are leaving the country then entering it.
And you beleive that you read, really how do you know more are leaving than entering, we cant even kepp track of those entering, so how do you know more are leaving than entering when you have no hard numbers, you dont. Tighly enforced, other news sources say those numbers are cooked, Example, they could those turned away at the border for visa issues AS DEPORTED, they were never in the country , did get past the chackpoint and count them being turned away as deported. Secondly , current pres mandate is NOW CATCH AND RELEASE. SO blow you smoke someplace else

Since: Jul 11

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#14 Dec 13, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you saying this to me? I'm not the one who keeps misusing the Bible to try to justify their position.
Do you know what the biggest threat to the country is? It is the large number of people who receive their information and take their marching orders from foreigners.
A fine example is your claim that Obama "refuses" to enforce laws. If you ever checked out American owned news sources then you would know that immigration laws have never been so tightly enforced, deportations are at record levels and illegal immigration is now tracked in negative numbers since more people are leaving the country then entering it.
you also using the bible to justify your postion, maybe look in the mirror before opening your own mouth.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#15 Dec 13, 2012
Andysdad wrote:
<quoted text>And you beleive that you read, really how do you know more are leaving than entering, we cant even kepp track of those entering, so how do you know more are leaving than entering when you have no hard numbers, you dont. Tighly enforced, other news sources say those numbers are cooked, Example, they could those turned away at the border for visa issues AS DEPORTED, they were never in the country , did get past the chackpoint and count them being turned away as deported. Secondly , current pres mandate is NOW CATCH AND RELEASE. SO blow you smoke someplace else
No US based news source has ever suggested the "numbers are cooked".

Don't listen to foreigners. Believe it or not they do not always have our best interests at heart.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#16 Dec 13, 2012
Andysdad wrote:
<quoted text>you also using the bible to justify your postion, maybe look in the mirror before opening your own mouth.
Look in the mirror? You are posting crap about taxes and sheep stealing. You are not a serious person.

Since: Jul 11

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#17 Dec 13, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
No US based news source has ever suggested the "numbers are cooked".
Don't listen to foreigners. Believe it or not they do not always have our best interests at heart.
hello, google immigration numbers cooked and tell me those are not american websites, try getting your head out of your arse

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#18 Dec 13, 2012
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Look in the mirror? You are posting crap about taxes and sheep stealing. You are not a serious person.
sheep stealing is a quote from the bible, yet you look past the point its making, those who do not enter via the proper way are crooks and theives
LOL

Portland, OR

#19 Dec 13, 2012
Andysdad wrote:
<quoted text>hello, google immigration numbers cooked and tell me those are not american websites, try getting your head out of your arse
A fool like you will believe whatever it is you want to hear and from the looks of your racist & hateful comments... you deserve to have your citizenship revoked and sent to guantanamo bay.
LOL

Portland, OR

#20 Dec 13, 2012
Andysdad wrote:
<quoted text>sheep stealing is a quote from the bible, yet you look past the point its making, those who do not enter via the proper way are crooks and theives
Jesus christ was a crook and thief, not to mention an illegal alien.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#21 Dec 13, 2012
Andysdad wrote:
<quoted text>sheep stealing is a quote from the bible, yet you look past the point its making, those who do not enter via the proper way are crooks and theives
Yes. The point is quite clear. Stealing sheep is bad.

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#26 Dec 13, 2012
Maravilla Street Gang wrote:
The Latinos are a force to be reckoned with.
yes, we can all see what you have to your home country,

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