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Obama: willing to work with House on immigration reform

There are 998 comments on the Reuters story from Sep 17, 2013, titled Obama: willing to work with House on immigration reform. In it, Reuters reports that:

President Barack Obama said on Tuesday he could support the House of Representatives taking a piece-by-piece approach to changing immigration policy as long as key elements such as a "pathway to citizenship" for undocumented immigrants were included.

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#374 Nov 4, 2013
Bareback wrote:
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He could do it like you and lick the crap off BEFORE he puts it in his mouth.
Not when he has a Boulder queen to do it for him, eh, Jizz?
Juan Two

Lusby, MD

#375 Nov 4, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Not when he has a Boulder queen to do it for him, eh, Jizz?
Did your boy friend beat you up again?

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#376 Nov 4, 2013
Did yours mount you, dear?
spud

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#378 Nov 5, 2013
Gringos can outwork Mexicans any day. The problem is they want to be paid enough to live on. This illegal alien problem came about because Democrats and the idiotic neocons of the Republican party have refused to enforce our laws. Real conservatives are the only thing preventing a total free for all on the border. So when it says Obama is willing to work with Republicans it's referring to the stupid ones, not true conservatives.

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#379 Nov 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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It isn't close to fulfilling the need.
Putting aside all the jobs sitting on the couch watching Dr. Phil are already taken by Americans.
14 million Americans unemployed and the Population at 315 million and climbing.

What do you mean by It isn't close to fulfilling the need?

The only thing we need is someone in the White House with the B*ll's to ship 11 million illegal aliens back to their own country,that would mean shipping 6.6 million Mexicans home, who don't know what the word Illegal means!

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#380 Nov 5, 2013
Jesus Malverde wrote:
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Gracias for acknowledgeing my point, gabacho.
Said with Tongue in cheek!

Look it up because I'm sure you don't know what it means!

LOL!!!

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#381 Nov 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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(quote)
Is Deportation of Immigrants Good for American Workers?: A look at who gets the jobs after the raids
As employers are increasingly hesitant to fill their rolls with unauthorized workers as a result of heightened immigration enforcement, the use of prisoners, probationers, refugees, guest workers, and other especially vulnerable workers is on the rise. Bruce Farely, manager of the business development unit of Arizona Correctional Industries (ACI) says that ACI is “contacted almost daily” by companies that “are looking to inmate labor as a possible alternative" to undocumented labor (in Watkins 2011). Labor shortages in the agricultural sector brought on by a reduction of the undocumented labor force have led growers to seek prison labor in Arizona, Colorado, and Idaho (Battey 2007; Univision). In 2011, Georgia governor Nathan Deal said that filling available jobs with people on criminal probation is “a great partial solution” to labor shortages in the agricultural sector that are the result of restrictive immigration policy (Shoichet 2011). In Washington state, an agricultural company applied to import guest workers from Mexico after losing hundreds of undocumented employees to ICE audits (Preston 2010). Following a 2008 immigration raid of a meat processing plant in Postville, Iowa in which nearly 400 workers were arrested and deported, the plant hired homeless people, former drug addicts, and ex-prisoners to replace its undocumented workforce (Grey, Devlin and Goldsmith 2009). According to anthropologist Mark Grey (personal communication June 1, 2011), the high turnover of the new workforce led the Postville plant to subsequently recruit Somali and Burmese refugees, who now make up a large proportion of the plant’s workforce.
Accelerated immigration enforcement may thus be a boon to the employment prospects of other workers, but not to empowered minority working-class. In one telling example, a poultry-processing plant in Georgia lost two-thirds of its work force in the aftermath of a 2006 immigration raid. In response, the plant raised wages and recruited local African American workers to fill newly available jobs––a move that was initially touted as proof that labor shortages brought about by immigration enforcement would be a boon to African American workers. But the honeymoon was short-lived; the new work force expressed concerns about dangerous work conditions and questionable labor practices at the plant, leading one manager to conclude that they simply “do not want to work.” Rather than improve conditions and raise wages further, plant managers found new sources of pliant labor. They replaced their work force once again––this time with prison workers, Hmong refugees, and homeless people (Perez and Dade 2007). It seems that for plant managers,“wanting to work” means either tolerating poor working conditions or being powerless to do anything about them.
The common denominator of a work force composed of undocumented immigrants, refugees, prisoners, probationers, homeless people, guest workers, and drug addicts is a profound vulnerability that can easily translate into a “willingness” to do low wage, dangerous, or socially degraded work.
Link,Source?

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#382 Nov 5, 2013
ActuaIIy wrote:
You do realize that the Obama administration has deported more illegals than bush ever did right?
Do you also know your history? It was Reagan who opened the door to illegal alien amnesty.
So, what's your point, other than the one on top of your head?

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#383 Nov 5, 2013
Example:

A new report in USA Today finds that unemployed U.S. citizens continue to fill up jobs left vacant by immigration raids, particularly at meatpacking and poultry plants.

The reports says that plants impacted by the raids were
back up and running at full capacity within months of the raids.
Vanderbilt University professor Carol Swain said the raids were beneficial to the American workforce.

"Whenever there's an immigration raid, you find white, black and legal immigrant labor lining up to do those jobs that Americans will supposedly not do," Prof. Swain said in the USA Today article.

The USA Today report cites a study conducted by Steven Camarota at the Center for Immigration Studies that found Americans holding the majority of positions in fields that many claim are dominated by illegal aliens.

For more on this story, see USA Today.

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/septem ...

You're welcome!

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#384 Nov 5, 2013
spud wrote:
Gringos can outwork Mexicans any day. The problem is they want to be paid enough to live on. This illegal alien problem came about because Democrats and the idiotic neocons of the Republican party have refused to enforce our laws. Real conservatives are the only thing preventing a total free for all on the border. So when it says Obama is willing to work with Republicans it's referring to the stupid ones, not true conservatives.
Well said, and agreed!

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#385 Nov 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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It doesn't keep you from working your lips, Darling.
Put a cork in it, dirty old man!

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#386 Nov 5, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
Example:
A new report in USA Today finds that unemployed U.S. citizens continue to fill up jobs left vacant by immigration raids, particularly at meatpacking and poultry plants.
The reports says that plants impacted by the raids were
back up and running at full capacity within months of the raids.
Vanderbilt University professor Carol Swain said the raids were beneficial to the American workforce.
"Whenever there's an immigration raid, you find white, black and legal immigrant labor lining up to do those jobs that Americans will supposedly not do," Prof. Swain said in the USA Today article.
The USA Today report cites a study conducted by Steven Camarota at the Center for Immigration Studies that found Americans holding the majority of positions in fields that many claim are dominated by illegal aliens.
For more on this story, see USA Today.
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/septem ...
You're welcome!
Thank you!!!

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#387 Nov 5, 2013
Have a wonderful day, all..:)

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#388 Nov 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Made up numbers mean nothing.
Nor are disingenuous numbers.
We are talking about harvesting food.
More than HALF the people that harvest the food you eat are illegal aliens. Of the remainder, most are directly related to the illegal aliens who are harvesting the food you eat.
Illegal, but Not Undocumented: Identity Theft, Document Fraud, and Illegal
Employment

The findings include:

a.. Illegal immigrants are not "undocumented." They have fraudulent
documents such as counterfeit Social Security cards, forged drivers
licenses, fake "green cards," and phony birth certificates. Experts suggest
that approximately 75 percent of working-age illegal aliens use fraudulent
Social Security cards to obtain employment.

b.. Most (98 percent) Social Security number (SSN) thieves use their own
names with stolen numbers. The federal E-Verify program, now mandated in
only 14 states, can detect this fraud. Universal, mandatory use of E-Verify
would curb this and stop virtually 100 percent of child identity theft.

c.. Illegal immigration and high levels of identity theft go hand-in-hand.
States with the most illegal immigration also have high levels of
job-related identity theft. In Arizona, 33 percent or all identity theft is
job-related (as opposed to identity theft motivated simply by profit). In
Texas it is 27 percent; in New Mexico, 23 percent; in Colorado, 22 percent;
California, 20 percent; and in Nevada, 16 percent. Eight of the 10 states
with the highest percentage of illegal aliens in their total population are
among the top 10 states in identity theft (Arizona, California, Florida,
Texas, Nevada, New York, Georgia, and Colorado).

d.. Children are prime targets. In Arizona, it is estimated that over one
million children are victims of identity theft. In Utah, 1,626 companies
were found to be paying wages to the SSNs of children on public assistance
under the age of 13. These individuals suffer very real and very serious
consequences in their lives.

e.. Illegal aliens commit felonies in order to get jobs. Illegal aliens
who use fraudulent documents, perjure themselves on I-9 forms, and commit
identity theft in order to get jobs are committing serious offenses and are
not "law abiding."

http://www.cis.org/IdentityTheft

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#389 Nov 5, 2013
ActuaIIy wrote:
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Sure you do skippy, mine is a fortune seeing it was paid in silver.
That's what Judas was paid with.

Silver.

I earn mine the hard way!

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#390 Nov 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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No, dear: you are the cockroach of American society.

That is why you hide- we turn on the light, and you scurry away under the sink, that is why you find the need to move your alias so frequently.

You are a dying breed, thankfully.
Talking about cockroaches

Trash in the Huachuca Mountains - The Sierra Vista Herald

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#391 Nov 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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They do.

Putting aside the racist policies that allow access from Europe, and stranglehold on brown people coming in south of the border.
Well 6.6 million Mexicans didn't!

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#392 Nov 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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2009.

Bet they aren't still there and their positions have been filled by immigrants.
Definitions:
Alien, Immigrant, Illegal Alien, Undocumented Immigrant

These related terms are often used in deliberately confusing and conflicting
ways. Here is a set of definitions that will help you sort out the
difference.
IMMIGRANT: In popular usage, an "immigrant" is generally understood to be a
person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.
Under this definition, therefore, an "immigrant" is an alien admitted to the
U.S. as a lawful permanent resident. The emphasis in this definition is
upon the presumptions that (1) the immigrant followed U.S. laws and
procedures in establishing residence in our country; (2) he or she wishes to
reside here permanently; and (3) he or she swears allegiance to our country
or at least solemnly affirms that he/she will observe and respect our laws
and our Constitution.

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner --
a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to
our country.

ILLEGAL ALIEN: An "illegal alien" is a foreigner who (1) does not owe
allegiance to our country; and (2) who has violated our laws and customs in
establishing residence in our country. He or she is therefore a criminal
under applicable U.S. laws.

The term "illegal alien" is used by U.S. citizens who believe that
non-citizens entering our country must comply with our immigration laws.

The term "illegal alien" is predicated upon U.S. immigration law
which requires foreigners entering the U.S. to comply with our country's
rules and laws regarding entry into, and residence within, our country.

UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT: The term "undocumented immigrant" is an oxymoron
(the parts conflict). An immigrant is synonymous with "permanent legal
resident." The old term for the document authorizing a permanent legal
resident is "green card." The term "undocumented" is derived from the
accurate term "undocumented aliens" who are often called "border crossers."
Proper terms are "illegal alien" or "undocumented alien" but not
"undocumented immigrant." Although not commonly used, the term "documented
alien" accurately refers to foreign nationals who have an unexpired
non-immigrant visa such as H-1B.

Most U.S. citizens do not use the term "undocumented immigrant"
and prefer, instead, the more descriptive and accurate term "illegal alien".

The term "undocumented immigrant" is used by those who believe in
"open borders", i.e., non-regulation of foreigners entering into and
assuming residence in the U.S., including even those foreigners who owe
allegiance to a foreign government and/or who may intend harm to the U.S.

http://www.adversity.net/Terms_Definitions/TE...

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#393 Nov 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I've already told you for the umpteenth time that working in field is not the only job Americans won't do.
IDIOT!
Short term memory loss on top of your short attention span, IDIOT?
HAHAHAAHAHAH!
AGAIN, IDIOT: my links are to the Department of Labor, not to a story four year old story in the USA Today... which compared to real newspapers is like what Entertainment Tonight is to Frontline.
Wipe your chin, dear.
BUSTED: Illegal Alien Workers at Whiting-Turner Construction Project (PA)

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1324a. Unlawful employment of aliens

(a) Making employment of unauthorized aliens unlawful
(1) In general
It is unlawful for a person or other entity-
(A) to hire, or to recruit or refer for a fee, for employment in the United
States an alien knowing the alien is an unauthorized alien (as defined in
subsection (h)(3) of this section) with respect to such employment, or
(B)
(i) to hire for employment in the United States an individual without
complying with the requirements of subsection (b) of this section or
(ii) if the person or entity is an agricultural association, agricultural
employer, or farm labor contractor (as defined in section 1802 of title 29),
to hire, or to recruit or refer for a fee, for employment in the United
States an individual without complying with the requirements of subsection
(b) of this section.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/disp...
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#394 Nov 5, 2013
Cricket 23 wrote:
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14 million Americans unemployed and the Population at 315 million and climbing.
What do you mean by It isn't close to fulfilling the need?
The only thing we need is someone in the White House with the B*ll's to ship 11 million illegal aliens back to their own country,that would mean shipping 6.6 million Mexicans home, who don't know what the word Illegal means!
Actually, it is 23 million unemployed Americans but otherwise you are right.

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