Obama points to refund checks as proo...

Obama points to refund checks as proof of health care reform success

There are 19 comments on the CNN story from Jul 18, 2013, titled Obama points to refund checks as proof of health care reform success. In it, CNN reports that:

Surrounded by middle-class Americans, President Barack Obama touted the successes of his signature health care law on Thursday and the ways consumers are seeing tangible benefits.

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Patriot

Denver, CO

#1 Jul 18, 2013
"Surrounded by middle-class Americans (Actors)..."

The NWO illegal puppet 'president' and his cronies are pathological liars. What is becoming normal in Our country is part-time work - full-time work is becoming history - thus the destruction of the middle class.

The percentage of full-time jobs in Our economy is steadily declining and the percentage of part-time jobs is steadily increasing. This is not a recent phenomenon, but now there are several factors which are accelerating this trend. One of them is Obamacare. The truth is that Obamacare actually gives business owners incentive to cut hours and turn full-time workers into part-time workers, and according to the Wall Street Journal and other prominent publications this is already happening all over the United States. Perhaps this is part of the reasons why the U.S. economy actually lost 240,000 full-time jobs last month.

In a recent article entitled "Restaurant Shift: Sorry, Just Part-Time", the Wall Street Journal explained the choices that employers are faced with thanks to Obamacare...

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/g...

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Level 4

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#2 Jul 18, 2013
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA .....

If the Presidency had been made Child-Proof, the Magic Negro never would've gotten in there. Fool.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#3 Jul 18, 2013
There is a certain class of people in this country that get EXCITED about a refund; like a tax refund.

What they forget to think about is HOW MUCH MONEY they spent to get that refund.

Obama pandering to people who just don't see the BIG PICTURE.

Eventually, when the 80% insurance companies PAY OUT becomes MORE than what they take in, the refunds will disappear and the monthly premiums will go up and up and up.

(Keep in mind that insurance companies will HAVE TO cover pre-existing conditions and other items which will cause their expenses to increase substantially)

But, goody, goody somebody got a refund - WOW!

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Level 4

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#4 Jul 18, 2013
Patriot wrote:
"Surrounded by middle-class Americans (Actors)..."
The NWO illegal puppet 'president' and his cronies are pathological liars. What is becoming normal in Our country is part-time work - full-time work is becoming history - thus the destruction of the middle class.
The percentage of full-time jobs in Our economy is steadily declining and the percentage of part-time jobs is steadily increasing. This is not a recent phenomenon, but now there are several factors which are accelerating this trend. One of them is Obamacare. The truth is that Obamacare actually gives business owners incentive to cut hours and turn full-time workers into part-time workers, and according to the Wall Street Journal and other prominent publications this is already happening all over the United States. Perhaps this is part of the reasons why the U.S. economy actually lost 240,000 full-time jobs last month.
In a recent article entitled "Restaurant Shift: Sorry, Just Part-Time", the Wall Street Journal explained the choices that employers are faced with thanks to Obamacare...
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/g...
I wonder...to the extent that businesses CAN do it, will they begin to keep their full-time employment offshore and America will become a Part-Time economy because of the Magic Negro being a Part-Time President?
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#5 Jul 18, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
There is a certain class of people in this country that get EXCITED about a refund; like a tax refund.
What they forget to think about is HOW MUCH MONEY they spent to get that refund.
Obama pandering to people who just don't see the BIG PICTURE.
Eventually, when the 80% insurance companies PAY OUT becomes MORE than what they take in, the refunds will disappear and the monthly premiums will go up and up and up.
(Keep in mind that insurance companies will HAVE TO cover pre-existing conditions and other items which will cause their expenses to increase substantially)
But, goody, goody somebody got a refund - WOW!
Last year I received a refund and I have recently received a letter saying I have another one coming to me this year.

Yesterday they released the list of prices for policies bought from the state exchanges. In New York insurance rates are going down by slightly over 50%. The best part is these are better policies then are available now. I will be saving over $1500 per month in premiums and getting a rebate to boot.

I think I may buy a BMW with the extra money that I will no longer have to send to the insurance company. Goody, goody goody. A new car.

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Level 4

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#6 Jul 18, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Last year I received a refund and I have recently received a letter saying I have another one coming to me this year.
Yesterday they released the list of prices for policies bought from the state exchanges. In New York insurance rates are going down by slightly over 50%. The best part is these are better policies then are available now. I will be saving over $1500 per month in premiums and getting a rebate to boot.
I think I may buy a BMW with the extra money that I will no longer have to send to the insurance company. Goody, goody goody. A new car.
Fergit the BMW and opt for the brain transplant instead.

You can get a Chipmunk Brain for $10.95 w/coupon.
How dry I am

Arlington, VA

#7 Jul 18, 2013
A BMW, saving over 1500 a month, I think your whats called.......a liar.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#10 Jul 18, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
There is a certain class of people in this country that get EXCITED about a refund; like a tax refund.
What they forget to think about is HOW MUCH MONEY they spent to get that refund.
Obama pandering to people who just don't see the BIG PICTURE.
Eventually, when the 80% insurance companies PAY OUT becomes MORE than what they take in, the refunds will disappear and the monthly premiums will go up and up and up.
(Keep in mind that insurance companies will HAVE TO cover pre-existing conditions and other items which will cause their expenses to increase substantially)
But, goody, goody somebody got a refund - WOW!
Horrible, folks don't die in debt... HORRIBLE !!
Love poor losers... Complain about RomneyCare... LMAOROTFU~!
ima- Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#11 Jul 18, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Last year I received a refund and I have recently received a letter saying I have another one coming to me this year.
Yesterday they released the list of prices for policies bought from the state exchanges. In New York insurance rates are going down by slightly over 50%. The best part is these are better policies then are available now. I will be saving over $1500 per month in premiums and getting a rebate to boot.
I think I may buy a BMW with the extra money that I will no longer have to send to the insurance company. Goody, goody goody. A new car.
Impressive
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#12 Jul 19, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Last year I received a refund and I have recently received a letter saying I have another one coming to me this year.
Yesterday they released the list of prices for policies bought from the state exchanges. In New York insurance rates are going down by slightly over 50%. The best part is these are better policies then are available now. I will be saving over $1500 per month in premiums and getting a rebate to boot.
I think I may buy a BMW with the extra money that I will no longer have to send to the insurance company. Goody, goody goody. A new car.
Good Lord!! Saving $1500 a month? How much were you paying that you SAVE $1500 a month???

Can't imagine how LARGE your monthly payments were BEFORE saving $1500/month!!
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#13 Jul 19, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
Good Lord!! Saving $1500 a month? How much were you paying that you SAVE $1500 a month???
Can't imagine how LARGE your monthly payments were BEFORE saving $1500/month!!
$3200 per month for the family.

People who oppose the law do not realize that it is middle class people who will benefit the most. People know about extending coverage to people with pre-exisitng conditions and keeping kids on their parents policies until they are 26, but the biggest benefit is setting up the state exchanges.

Most people receive their insurance through a group plan provided by their employer, but many people do not. In my case I am self-employed, but their are a lot of people working as contract employees or they are unemployed or whatever. In these case they have to buy an individual policy.

If somebody has a policy through an employer's group plan the monthly rates are about $300. At that price the person has coverage and the insurance company is making a profit. If they were not profiting then they would not even sell the policies.

If an individual tries to buy the exact same policy the cost jumps to $1000 a month or more. That is per person by the way. For a family it is much more. That is obscene and there is no reason for it other then they are not part of a group.

The state exchanges basically are group plans set up by the states in conjunction with the insurance companies that will allow an individual to buy a policy at a group rate. Nothing more. Nothing less. It is a big deal to a lot of people who buy their own insurance.
ima- Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#14 Jul 19, 2013
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
Good Lord!! Saving $1500 a month? How much were you paying that you SAVE $1500 a month???
Can't imagine how LARGE your monthly payments were BEFORE saving $1500/month!!
Clueless is full of shit, Eleanor! brags about his (supposedly-heavenly) looks and now claiming he practically OWNS THE PLANET! lol! lol! not to be taken seriously, of course. In fact he pretty much turns everyone off with his clueless rants.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#15 Jul 19, 2013
ima- Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text> Clueless is full of shit, Eleanor! brags about his (supposedly-heavenly) looks and now claiming he practically OWNS THE PLANET! lol! lol! not to be taken seriously, of course. In fact he pretty much turns everyone off with his clueless rants.
I have never said any of these things. It is a little early in the day to start drinking isn't it?
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#16 Jul 20, 2013
Within 3 months of the unaffordable healthcare bill being passed my premium increased by $200.00 a month. My co-pays doubled along with my deductible. Somehow I don't see how getting a check for $100.00 once a year as success.
Kelly

Rochester, NY

#17 Jul 20, 2013
Obamacare is NOT a success in any word. Unconstitutional that Congressional Democrats and Democrat President got this law with no vote of confidence from Republicans. Unconstitutional that it makes a different law for politicians than for the Average American. Increased costs, mandates too many no cost to patient items. President postponing or disregarding the very law he signed. Somehow the USSC managed to change the wording of the law to uphold it by changing the penalty to tax. That in itself is Unconstitutional. Too many waivers given to friends of Obama/democrats. We are losing freedoms and losing our democracy to socialism/dictatorship. Wake up America. Soon it may be too late to undo the damage this administration has done.
conservative crapola

Zionhill, PA

#18 Jul 20, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
Within 3 months of the unaffordable healthcare bill being passed my premium increased by $200.00 a month. My co-pays doubled along with my deductible. Somehow I don't see how getting a check for $100.00 once a year as success.
You have the same bitch about property taxes. When are you going to go off the head about tom corbett sandusky and the reds that control embarrassburg, yet won't do a thing about them?

hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#19 Jul 21, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
Within 3 months of the unaffordable healthcare bill being passed my premium increased by $200.00 a month. My co-pays doubled along with my deductible. Somehow I don't see how getting a check for $100.00 once a year as success.
Holy cow! Are you a time traveler? The law does not even cone into effect until 2014 and you have already been to the future and have hard data on how it will turn out. Please tell us who won the Super Bowls while you were living in the future. We can all wager and be rich.

By the way, for those of us who live in the present, the rate in increase in medical premiums prior to the law going into effect are at a 30 year low. Sadly we can only blame the insurance companies for that.
Mike

Tampa, FL

#20 Jul 21, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Holy cow! Are you a time traveler? The law does not even cone into effect until 2014 and you have already been to the future and have hard data on how it will turn out. Please tell us who won the Super Bowls while you were living in the future. We can all wager and be rich.
By the way, for those of us who live in the present, the rate in increase in medical premiums prior to the law going into effect are at a 30 year low. Sadly we can only blame the insurance companies for that.
I work for a State agency in Florida. They have made the Custodial staff almost all "part time" workers with no healthcare or pension. This started months ago. Also the incompetent Idiot in the White House has been spewing his crap about Obama care is already helping thousands.

You are the one who is full of Shyt...$3,500 a month for health care my azz!
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#21 Jul 21, 2013
Mike wrote:
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I work for a State agency in Florida. They have made the Custodial staff almost all "part time" workers with no healthcare or pension. This started months ago. Also the incompetent Idiot in the White House has been spewing his crap about Obama care is already helping thousands.
You are the one who is full of Shyt...$3,500 a month for health care my azz!
Sorry to hear you have lost you pension, but I really do not see the connection to the topic or to Obama. State agencies come under the jurisdiction of the Governor. You should probably be directing your ire at Mr. Scott.

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