Immigration splits GOP's national, House interests

Jun 17, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Northern Michigan News

The Republican Party's hope of running stronger presidential races by revamping immigration is about to hit a big hurdle: House Republicans.

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Jun 17, 2013
 
With the vast majority of the democrats voting for it it will probably take 30-40 republicans to pass it through the house.
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Ambro2000 wrote:
With the vast majority of the democrats voting for it it will probably take 30-40 republicans to pass it through the house.
I would be shocked if even 15 pass it.the is dead

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Jun 17, 2013
 
It has to pass the Senate first and if it does we will have to wait to see the outcome in the House. I think everything is possible including a "shocking" result for you. lol
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Jun 17, 2013
 
NYM8387 wrote:
<quoted text> I would be shocked if even 15 pass it.the is dead
Stop crying puto culo!! Lets see the outcome pendejo!

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Jun 17, 2013
 
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It has to pass the Senate first and if it does we will have to wait to see the outcome in the House. I think everything is possible including a "shocking" result for you. lol
Well said about the "shocking" result part

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Jun 18, 2013
 
After the '86 amnesty, those who were gifted with our citizenship did not storm to the GOP side. Seeing as history has a way of repeating itself, the GOP will only be shooting itself in the foot if it thinks supporting this travesty of a bill is going endear the newly amnestied ilelgals to their side of the aisle. They will go to side that offers them the most for doing absolutely nothing. The problem is that this kind of thinking and lifestyle takes money, and money is not flowing in fast enough to pay for this kind of dependent lifestyle. When it runs out, and it will, then what???

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After the '86 amnesty, those who were gifted with our citizenship did not storm to the GOP side. Seeing as history has a way of repeating itself, the GOP will only be shooting itself in the foot if it thinks supporting this travesty of a bill is going endear the newly amnestied ilelgals to their side of the aisle. They will go to side that offers them the most for doing absolutely nothing. The problem is that this kind of thinking and lifestyle takes money, and money is not flowing in fast enough to pay for this kind of dependent lifestyle. When it runs out, and it will, then what???
If this bill doesn't pass the Congress the Hispanic community will hold the Republicans accountable for its failure and the GOP will lose the house in 2014. Guess what's gonna happen next ? lol In 2015 the Democrats will be able to pass without any opposition a real amnesty bill which will coincide with the death of the GOP. At the end of the day is Republicans choice.

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If this bill doesn't pass the Congress the Hispanic community will hold the Republicans accountable for its failure and the GOP will lose the house in 2014. Guess what's gonna happen next ? lol In 2015 the Democrats will be able to pass without any opposition a real amnesty bill which will coincide with the death of the GOP. At the end of the day is Republicans choice.
Nope...the smarter way to handle this is pass smaller, more important aspects of this travesty, instead of this 1000+ page monstrosity that nobody really has a clue as to what is in it. Bottomline, the outcome has to be in the best interests of legal citizens, not the interlopers. Our focus should be on figuring out ways for Americans to get off the government teat and back into jobs. Gifting illegals the ability to keep the jobs they work, many of which were being worked by legal, taxpaying citizens, won't help a thing. We need to get the unemployed back to work first and foremost. If there is a need after they, the legal citizens, find their way back to jobs, then we can figure out a way to help some of the illegals. But for now, Americans should come first...period.

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<quoted text>Nope...the smarter way to handle this is pass smaller, more important aspects of this travesty, instead of this 1000+ page monstrosity that nobody really has a clue as to what is in it. Bottomline, the outcome has to be in the best interests of legal citizens, not the interlopers. Our focus should be on figuring out ways for Americans to get off the government teat and back into jobs. Gifting illegals the ability to keep the jobs they work, many of which were being worked by legal, taxpaying citizens, won't help a thing. We need to get the unemployed back to work first and foremost. If there is a need after they, the legal citizens, find their way back to jobs, then we can figure out a way to help some of the illegals. But for now, Americans should come first...period.
All these issues regarding border security, illegal immigration, legal immigration have to be solved at the same time.

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All these issues regarding border security, illegal immigration, legal immigration have to be solved at the same time.
Do YOU have faith that these gumbas actually know what they are doing, and will actually do what they promise to do??? They made promise in '86, and look what that got us...into a much bigger hole. Baby steps are the answer, with the border being sealed first...they can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
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<quoted text> Stop crying puto culo!! Lets see the outcome pendejo!
hes not an ass or a gay!!!! Its not passing period.start packing!!
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After the '86 amnesty, those who were gifted with our citizenship did not storm to the GOP side. Seeing as history has a way of repeating itself, the GOP will only be shooting itself in the foot if it thinks supporting this travesty of a bill is going endear the newly amnestied ilelgals to their side of the aisle. They will go to side that offers them the most for doing absolutely nothing. The problem is that this kind of thinking and lifestyle takes money, and money is not flowing in fast enough to pay for this kind of dependent lifestyle. When it runs out, and it will, then what???
It is probably true that Republicans will never get the majority of Hispanic voters, but that does not matter. In the last election 73% voted for Obama. This ended up costing Romney several states and ultimately the election.

Even if the Republicans could reduce the deficit to 63% it would still be a huge deal for them.

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It is probably true that Republicans will never get the majority of Hispanic voters, but that does not matter. In the last election 73% voted for Obama. This ended up costing Romney several states and ultimately the election.
Even if the Republicans could reduce the deficit to 63% it would still be a huge deal for them.
Memo, that's not entirely true. Obama got the majority of youth fresh out of college, he got the black vote, many women didn't like Romney's view on abortion, and many people flat-out refused to vote for him because of his religion, while some just opted out of voting altogether Many factors worked against him...the lack of Hispanic voting for him wasn't the one major thing reason that he lost. Obama has charisma, and Romney does not. People bet on the wrong horse, and those young folks are becoming quite disallusioned right about now. The Hispanic block isn't the determining factor, but with the addition of millions of uninformed voters, it will be a major force if they choose to vote. Let's not forget that many dogs and dead folks managed to show up to vote...as ususal.
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In today’s highly partisan times, the notion that Republicans need to pass immigration reform to win Hispanic votes from the Democrats is pure fantasy. If Democrats thought for an instant that would happen, immigration reform would die faster than an Obama Budget.

Ask John McCain if supporting amnesty made a difference in his run for the President.
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Thank God half the Republican party still has sense. McCain, the worst Republican presidential candidate in modern times if not ever, never gets anything right. Him and GWB were the worst Republicans I can remember. No matter what the dopey Republican leadership does, 75% of all amnestied illegals will vote Democrat, but I don't expect idiots like Graham, McCain, Rubio and Boehner to be able to comprehend that.
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All these issues regarding border security, illegal immigration, legal immigration have to be solved at the same time.
Why, specifically?
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All these issues regarding border security, illegal immigration, legal immigration have to be solved at the same time.
That is the biggest lie of all. We need to pass an Everify law for all employment and government services. We need to develop a better system to track visa holders in this country, and we need to secure our border. Amnesty and comprehensive amnesty have nothing to do with what is necessary. We only need to pass these three things and our situation will become immediately better. Screw amnesty, it has nothing to do with our problems.

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<quoted text>Do YOU have faith that these gumbas actually know what they are doing, and will actually do what they promise to do??? They made promise in '86, and look what that got us...into a much bigger hole. Baby steps are the answer, with the border being sealed first...they can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
Politicians, whether people and lawyers are legal lairs so it's hard to have faith in what they say but there is no other choice.

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<quoted text>That is the biggest lie of all. We need to pass an Everify law for all employment and government services. We need to develop a better system to track visa holders in this country, and we need to secure our border. Amnesty and comprehensive amnesty have nothing to do with what is necessary. We only need to pass these three things and our situation will become immediately better. Screw amnesty, it has nothing to do with our problems.
I get your point. This is basically what Romney wanted to do. From a point of view it might seem a great idea but making the life impossible for the illegals already here won't solve the problem as they will either find a way to beat the system or there will be a lot of unrest in the country that could lead to unwanted social issues.
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Mexican pride wrote:
<quoted text> Stop crying puto culo!! Lets see the outcome pendejo!
What outcome?this is DOA.

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